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Your conversation with Mxett is hard to follow, but ultimately has no answer because we don't know the dosage given to players (and we can't prove if Garnham knows or not). He (Mxett) was saying; 'Garnham had deemed it safe, having more information' (maybe he does, maybe not). The HS reported that the consent forms had 1 injection per week listed on them. (no dosage was given).
What Mxett said in the post I quoted was that studies had deemed it safe at low doses, which is true. The long term studies were conducted on 300 adults over 14 weeks. All test results completed have shown a safety profile indistinguisable from the placebo. If Garnham knows something that the public don't then he may feel confident in saying it is safe - based on clinical trials only.
We don't know what dosage or length EFC had injected their players with. Using clinical trials - the evidence points to it being safe. However, as AOD has not been approved (it has received GRAS status for food in US) and passed final clinical trials an iron-clad guarantee of safety cannot be given.
For me, IMHO it would say it is probably safe - but we can't be 100% sure. No doubt EFC cocked up in this regard, and anything less than 100% is poor.
Would you like a piece of barely warm partially rotted meat cut from a dead cow? No? How about a 30 day cold aged grass fed angus rib eye cooked perfectly rare?
As impressive as all those words might look, they refer to a process which falls FAR short of completion of the clinical trial process. And far short of any determination other than that the stuff isn't immediately and catastrophicly hazardous. Which is a long way from safe, probably safe or maybe safe.