Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Ash1337]

Great news, why was his manager so coy on radio yesterday if convos are so far advanced?!

Likely the club asked to keep it under wraps. So maybe he was 1 of the 2 re-signings that club was going to announce by the rumours.

 

[Doggy Dan]

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

 

[CarnTheScray]

devils advocate - the whole team is underachieving.

I wonder how smith and english play in a team that moves the ball more fluidly?

True. Our ball movement depresses me.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

Could work but will never ever happen.

 

[St 07]

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

Is Clayton Oliver really worth 3 first rounders and Lobb who cost us two seconds?!

*Irrelevantly, we got a late first for Ward compo.....

 

[Sentinel]

Thrilled to be keeping Naughton, although never considered him a real flight risk. Not thrilled at the length of the deal but that's the way the market operates these days and at least he's still young so should still be in his prime by the end of it.

 

[Doggy Dan]

Is Clayton Oliver really worth 3 first rounders and Lobb who cost us two seconds?!

*Irrelevantly, we got a late first for Ward compo.....

Yep, he’s absolutely worth 2 mid/late first rounders and a second rounder.

We got Macrae with the Ward compo at 6 didn’t we??

 

[doggies ftw]

So Oliver to Crows is actually on, man Crows are getting scary

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

its actually not the worst suggestion to be honest, and the values are probably about right. Would give Dees the currency to get Reid too.

Oliver would never play for the dogs but and I don’t think any dogs players would want to play with him. Fair bit of bad blood

 

[doggie dog]

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

If that deal for done yeah definitely the next 3 flags.
But if we're getting Oliver, Baz would have to be traded to the dees, plus picks.
Dee's are on win mode right now, they would want a ready made midfielder.
Baz had a down year and i also suspect the hawks wouldn't trade pick 3 for baz.

 

[Doggy Dan]

Oliver would never play for the dogs but and I don’t think any dogs players would want to play with him. Fair bit of bad blood

The enemy of an enemy is a friend!

 

[Sid Nullis]

Was at the railway hotel in Yarravlle after the reserves final and most players came in including Lobb. He genuinely looked like he was getting on well with everyone. Also plays regular golf with other players as well. Hardly a lepper.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Its a simple case of it not working and if it actually happens we are just cutting our losses and moving on. Saints still very keen.

The “not working” bit is the most concerning. These people are paid to make it work, identify targets to make a plan/strategy work, set us up for the future. We seem to keep pivoting every year from strategy to strategy.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Lobb leaving suggests we also might’ve finally worked out we went far to tall most weeks and might finally get the game style and ball movement most here want

Doesn’t inspire confidence in the people running the club and setting our direction. That’s a very big/basic misjudgment.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Adelaide linked to Oliver according to latest reports. Demons could end up with three first round picks, 5-6 inside the top 36. Potentially a couple of firsts next year. Not bad for a team that won the flag two seasons ago.

That being said. Last time I checked.

If you put a player on the trade market, they lose some value.
If the player has some behavior and professional issues, they lose some value.

Demons fans are thinking they will get, and that Oliver is worth a massive kings ransom in draft picks. He isn't Gary Ablett Jr.

Well our Stringer and Hunter trades prove otherwise. Oliver is a gun, but I'd be shocked if he lands them more than a couple of firsts. Two firsts, a second and McAdam? Yeah no way he is worth that much given his numerous indiscretions this season. Tattooing himself leading to infection, arguing with trainers/staff, not taking his rehab seriously, using another surgeon privately outside of the clubs knowledge. That is just the stuff we know about, there is likely more.

 

[Foxman98]

Adelaide linked to Oliver according to latest reports. Demons could end up with three first round picks, 5-6 inside the top 36. Potentially a couple of first next year. Not bad for a team that won the flag two seasons ago.

That being said. Last time I checked.

If you put a player on the trade market, they lose some value.
If the player has some behavior and professional issues, they lose some value.

Demons fans thinking they will get, and that Oliver is worth a massive kings ransom in draft picks.

Well our Stringer and Hunter trades prove otherwise.

They're in the delusional stage,

Wait till he is traded for sweet FA compared to what they thought

 

[Dale4captain]

8 hecking years WOOOOOOW

 

[MJG14]

Naughton 8 year extension

 

[adogsfan5]

Finally some good news. Hopefully announced at the bnf tonight and the crowd erupts.

Hi

 

[Angak]

8 *ing years WOOOOOOW

Dog for life

Woohoo

 

[St 07]

Yep, he’s absolutely worth 2 mid/late first rounders and a second rounder.

We got Macrae with the Ward compo at 6 didn’t we??

You're probably right on both accounts

Holy heck Naughts

 

[Bald]

EIGHT. Holy s**t.

It means we can trade him at the end of next year for 200 first round draft picks.

 

[Foxman98]

8 is a bit steep but would be interesting to see how it is broken down

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Naughton 8 year extension

Wowowowowoeoeoeoeooeeeee

 

[Dog 36]

Melbourne need a forward target and a ruck chop out. Lobb can clearly play this role effectively. Oliver has some level of taint now so probably get him at a 20% discount.

10, 17, F2 and Lobb to Melbourne for Oliver
Baz to Hawthorn for 3
End up with 3, Croft and Oliver and retaining our 2024 F1

Baz and Lobb combined probably similar coin to Oliver.

Move Libba into the Matty Boyd floating CHB commander role. Bont, Oliver, English, Treloar tearing it up through the middle.

Win next 3 flags.

Don’t mind it BUT Libba is still our best midfielder.

He does not play a Matty Boyd role he is a jet of a midfielder.

 

[X_box_X]

Just announced at Bulldogs B&F, Naughton signs for eight years. Eight ******* years. Largest deal in the club's history.