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As Ive said MANY times now - SCNs are NOT charges.
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As Ive said MANY times now - SCNs are NOT charges.
I understand that, but it seems strange to me to ask a player to show cause why they shouldn't put on the RoF for taking drug A, and then charge them for taking drug B.
what if asada presented all there evidence to the review panel, and they recommended additional charges
Possible but not probable. My information is that they have introduced other substances to show that banned substances were on the premises of the EFC. This will increase the likelihood that any Thymosin was the banned type. It also shows that Dank was not averse to handling banned drugs and so it discredits any defense that he was using thymomodulin or Thymosin alpha 1 because he was worried about the status of TB4.
Muggs
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Based on Chips article in Dec we had suggestions that Dank was charged with supplying more than one substance, for what ever reason though players have only been charged with one.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-afl-doping-saga/story-fnca0u4y-1227158596462
Maybe because against a powerful, litigious reciever of charges......1 Gold Stamped charge is enough and all you need.
So, the multiple substances were to sink Dank and at the same time make it increasingly likely that the players were given TB4.
The evidence for other peptides is much harder to prove. Dank covered his tracks better when it came to linking them to the players.
telsor
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I'm thinking more in line with the Essendon supporters claim (hope) that the case is circumstantial and/or that not every stage can be proven.
The case for TB4 would be the strongest and there is no sense allowing doubts to creep into the 'strong' case by presenting weaker cases alongside. (they should be treated seprately, but it's human nature that if case1 is exposed as having a hole and was still presented then you'll be more suspicious of case2)
It shows that a Dank wasn't doing this on his own. The weapon knew what was happening. Let's face it. He was getting more and more press stating what a miracle worker he was (he can thank Brian Taylor). Most probably Hird knew too.
telsor
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Let it go, it'll save you a lot of pain.
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Humanity can survive James Hird being an a-hole.
I'm sure humanity is just fine.
Don't worry mxett, the mighty Bombers will come back again. They'll recover. They just need supporters like you.fast losing my trust in humanity
Ps. The fat lady hasn't sung yet!
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cynical but i think they'll mention the other charges once the TB4 is proven. Stop the appeals process in it's tracks.
I'm less cynical, in that I don't necessarily think it's a deliberate ploy, but you're right that ASADA keeping these cards up their sleeve makes a protracted appeals process less likely. Where's the motivation in fighting the charges if it means that you're just going to be hit with other charges later - which would mean starting the whole two-year process again - even in the event that the appeal is successful?
yaco55
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Everything I've read has stated players charged with administering TB4 - Multiple substances could refer to Dank.
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I repeat. Where is a definitive list of charges being currently tested by the Tribunal?
yaco55
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I stand by my claim that what has been publically released is that players have been charged with taking TB4.
And that the players hearing is being held alongside Dank's hearing.
sonnywalters
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Dank served players TB4. Hird knew. Hird wont speak out against Dank in case Dank speaks out against Hird. Joint enterprise. Own it. Cop a small penalty. Move on. Seriously this is not a big deal. Noone cares about Warney missing a year. Relax.
jenny61_99
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I never said they did. I was just pointing out that aggravated can come into play with more than one substance.
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