Opinion 2012 draft thread.

Discussion in 'Carlton' started by Sin City, Jul 14, 2012.

Put it out there
  1. Sin City

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    Now that the national carnival is done and some phantoms are popping up its time for some constructive talk about our draft picks this year.

    What type of players do we need to go after?

    Needs or best available?

    Anyone you've seen that would be a dream first round pick?

    Anyone who could be a late smokie?

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    Tall Forwards: Is what we have going to come through or do we go for another youngster to develop?

    Mids: Never enough and all things being equal this is where we may concentrate.

    What's our first pick going to be? 12 - 14?
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    Best Available, for mine. ..
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    I know we don't need HBF'ers :p
    Probably need two picks inside top 25 tbh.
    Hard to tell whether Casboult, Mitchell and Rowe will come on next year..but still one key forward short - Tippett coming out of contract.
    The way things are shaping we will have a top 10 pick and will likely trade it if Casboult and Mitchell don't show big improvements next two months.
    If they come on and show big improvements then first pick has to go towards a big bodied inside mid and there are a few this year.
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    If that best available happens to be a ruck-man? I doubt it.

    Just depends on how we slant our priorities when listed.
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    I would tend towards needs based decisions...hasn't the 'best available' mantra delivered us a glut of similar type players and left us with a couple of key deficiencies?

    Would love to be shown to be wrong here, have been basing my recruiting opinions on Terry 'List Manager' Wallace so am therefore somewhat disillusioned at the moment.
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    Drafting in July




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    Ollie has disposal issues but can definitely find the pill hope Mitchell & Casboult show big signs next two months so we can get someone like Ollie.
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    From what I have seen on Foxtel he plays alot like Andrew Swallow.
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    KEY FORWARD. End of story.

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    #8 Brisbane- Mason Shaw (WA – KPF/Ruck)
    Height: 198cm, Weight: 92kg, DOB: 15/01/1994
    Recruited from: South Fremantle
    Style: Brad Ottens/Kurt Tippett
    Player comparison: Jonathan Patton
    Range: 5-25
    Profile: Strong marking key forward. Has a presence, marks out in front and can take a contested grab. Had a sensation 2011 season scoring 66 goals which is a great return for the young key forward. Has good accuracy from both general play and set shot attempts. Also Shaw is a serious big game player kicking 7 goals in the grand final which is a big return and shows potential to continue being a big game player into the future. Has played in the ruck but I most like Shaw as a key forward and see that as the position where he can impose himself on matches most as a big marking target.

    Possibly in our range?

    Thanks to Knightmare and his mock. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2012-mock-draft.956129/
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    Loved his work in the Under 18 Champs & I didn't think his disposal was all that bad. He just needs to work within his limits, much like Carrots does.

    As a side note it would be nice to have another premiership team containing the name Wines. Our last one was 1945 (Clinton Wines).
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    Just not one containing the name Oliver. That didn't go too well for us, did it?
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    i no its silly but anyone concerned about drafting a pioneer?
    they havent been good since the selwoods
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    If its a KPF/Ruck then yes. .. Best available is likely to be a midfielder or KPP. .. Wouldn't say no to rookie listing a ruck. ..
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    We need an immediate impact forward at this stage of our side's maturity, Rowe, Casboult, Mitchell will have to come good at some stage.

    Get a mid!
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    Or trade pick 11 for Brent Moloney :p
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    *Sakc Rogers.

    *To be used in hindsight

    Hate draft threads that should be left until the end of the year.
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    We could always trade pick 11 or 12, which ever we get, for an already established key forward... Wait nvm there isnt any on the table.
    Perhaps Travis Boak for first pick, may seem steep but will rocket our midfield up to one of the best in the comp.
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    Btw Anyone heard of the U18 QLD Captain, James Ives? Great big bodied Inside Mid. Wouldnt mind having him on the list to build our big built mids.
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    We need a small defender and a hard mid. A defender who can take all those little pricks who have smashed us this year. Hope we make a play for Josh Toy if he wants to come back to Victoria.

    Don't know if we would take Ben Kennedy because he's just 174 cms, but you can't sneeze at a player with skill and pace.

    I would lean to a big forward if one slides, but a big midfielder is needed. Gibbs will spend more time in the midfield if we can actually get a healthy list. Sam Mayes sounds like he has a similar style to Bryce. Wonder if we would take another of this type if he's available.
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    Would like to add Shaw to the list and his rating seems to be dropping a bit at the moment but there's a few clubs that will have picks in front of us who need to replace tall forwards in the near future. Brisbane need a replacement for Brown and Freo need a replacement for Pav, but who knows.
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    Wouldn't say no to a rookie ruck-man at all. Hardly a risk not worth taking.

    It's possible I guess, but he'd have to be pretty amazing for us to hand over our first selection for him.

    Just at this stage, I'd be surprised if we didn't select mids with our first two selections, unless a quality tall was to slide.
    Having said that, it's all still early and anything can change in this weird season.
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    Get Zyrus Manson!

    edit: just had a look for some news on him, seems he kicked 8 again yesterday in whatever league he's playing in. Good on him!