List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

[ItsAllAboutMe]

If we get another first round pick, i reckon Nick O'kearney is the type of player we need. Leadership leadership leadership and could be a future captain.

 

[Freomaniac]

If I was a carlton scout, I would use the 1st round pick on a tall defender. Then follow what freo and collingwood has done: Get a posse of 190 cm mids. Eventually one of those 190 cm mids will emerge as a Darling/Howe/Crameri type forward. One that can kick 30-40 goals a season as a half forward flanker or centre half forward. That has been the trend in the last few years.

 

[thylacine60]

Is there anyone not willing to advise us on our plight? Oh great, Joffa's at the door...........

 

[GT619]

If I was a carlton scout, I would use the 1st round pick on a tall defender. Then follow what freo and collingwood has done: Get a posse of 190 cm mids. Eventually one of those 190 cm mids will emerge as a Darling/Howe/Crameri type forward. One that can kick 30-40 goals a season as a half forward flanker or centre half forward. That has been the trend in the last few years.

Weitering is the start. I'll trust SOS whatever he does

 

[Dramoth]

Is there anyone not willing to advise us on our plight? Oh great, Joffa's at the door...........

How the hell did he find you?

 

[thylacine60]

smelt what I was c.............forget it.......

 

[Dramoth]

smelt what you were crapping... I thought you buried it like a good marsupial?

 

[Freomaniac]

Weitering is the start. I'll trust SOS whatever he does

I would trust Silvagni as well. Still the difference is GWS had a ton of 1st round picks, Carlton wont. No point trading the likes of gibbs and murphy, might as well keep them. Still if carlton gets a couple of 2nd round picks, there is some hope. Go look what freo got in 2008 draft. Also theres been history of guys like betts and walters taken at late picks, so there is hope. Again the 1st pick is not the be all and end all... 3rd and 4th round gems have been popped up a lot.

 

[Freomaniac]

Is there anyone not willing to advise us on our plight? Oh great, Joffa's at the door...........

Can't be that bad, at least carlton never picked up cale morton or jack watts!

 

[thylacine60]

early doors - we'd be just the club for a 7ft wingman

 

[ferrisb]

early doors - we'd be just the club for a 7ft wingman

We are, but cripps should probably be left in the guts where his clearance work will shine the brightest.

 

[andrew_]

Trust the AFL to * us on the eve of potentially 3 f/s picks. No lube was used.

 

[Dramoth]

All it will take is 2 teams coming along and bidding first round for both Bailey and Jack and I reckon virtually all our picks disappear.

 

[BM123]

All it will take is 2 teams coming along and bidding first round for both Bailey and Jack and I reckon virtually all our picks disappear.

Neither look like 1st round picks at this early stage.

 

[Dramoth]

Neither look like 1st round picks at this early stage.

As far as I can see it doesnt matter... it's what other teams bid.

 

[LemmingMaster]

As far as I can see it doesnt matter... it's what other teams bid.

Obviously if other teams don't use a first round pick on him, then it does matter.

 

[Dramoth]

We could be righteous and say ok... you want him for a first round pick, go for it... and then pick them up after the end of their first year!

 

[Dramoth]

And if the other team backs out of the deal, then can we claim the F/S candidate for our last 2 picks?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I would trust Silvagni as well. Still the difference is GWS had a ton of 1st round picks, Carlton wont. No point trading the likes of gibbs and murphy, might as well keep them. Still if carlton gets a couple of 2nd round picks, there is some hope. Go look what freo got in 2008 draft. Also theres been history of guys like betts and walters taken at late picks, so there is hope. Again the 1st pick is not the be all and end all... 3rd and 4th round gems have been popped up a lot.

What if GC offer us pick 4 for either Gibbs or Murphy... we might need to pay some of there salary like in the Ryan Griffen deal

 

[RAPPA]

Yep, the new system will be exploited by the strategists. Another great move by the GayFL

 

[pepalenko]

 

[Freomaniac]

What if GC offer us pick 4 for either Gibbs or Murphy... we might need to pay some of there salary like in the Ryan Griffen deal

Is it worth the risk to offer that much for pick 4? GC wont give up pick 4 for anything. bulldogs traded pick 6 and griffen to get boyd. I am going to be realistic here... If Carlton want to get a top 10 pick, they have to trade their 2nd round pick and a key player. Its risky but its hard to complain if you have picks 1 and 10 but no 2nd round pick. freo did trade Graham Polak and pick 12 for pick 8 in 2006. then we stupidly traded that pick for chris tarrant.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I was at the WA v SA game, I will update you all later on how it went.

 

[Blue Heart]

For all recruiting from now on, we must have some non-negotiable criteria that every player must have before we consider drafting them or engaging in a trade :

1. can kick accurately off both feet
2. can mark strongly overhead
3. does all of the 1%ers
4. is team orientated
5. has some mongrel
6. can handball accurately by both hands
7. can follow instructions implicitly
8. not afraid to put the body on the line when needed
9. never ever gives up & hates losing
10. will always run to support a team-mate at all times, especially when under physical intimidation

Any 17-18yo player who is in a State League and doing well now against grown men is who we should be going after. Let's get away from drafting project players (eg. basketballers & sprinters) in the hope they grow into the game, we have to go for tried & true footballers who have grown up with the game and already have a strong feel for what it takes.

Guys who are 188-190cm are not going to grow into key position players either so let's do away with that fallacy too. I'm still having nightmares about Trent Sporn supposedly growing 9cm to become a hulking CHB, what a goddam waste of time that one was.

If they have the height now, we can put some meat on their frame. If they have the skills & tenacity now, we can nurture that raw talent to make them more accountable & reliable.

My No. 1 non negotiable recruiting criteria is they have to be an elite kick. When I started following the Blues way back in the early 70's, they were the most skilled kicking team by far and maintained that level to the late 90's. Since then, they have been the least skilled disposal team in the AFL by the length of the Flemington straight !!!

In other words, if you can't kick or hand pass under pressure, by the time you are 18, we don't want you at Carlton.

 

[Blue Heart]

Best available please.

Rewind two years and I would have said an inside mid and rebounding HBF were were the last places I'd want to fill.

Fast forward to now and I want to build a team around cripps and doc.

Ideally I'd like a KPB and a KPF. but if the choices aren't super line ball, I'll take highest rated.

Make that the best available tall KPs please !!!