2023 Tour de France

[eth-dog]

The fact that only 3 guys are within 10 minutes of him is insane.

Also if Ciccone wins all the KOM points tomorrow he can't be passed

 

[Sleezy]

Vingegaard has only looked vulnerable the day after burying himself. He pushed too hard to pull back Hindley and then cracked on the final climb the next day.

UAE have to push with everything they've got tonight, hope he over extended himself last night and that it gives Pog a chance to break him on the final climb and claw something back.

 

[eth-dog]

Vingegaard has only looked vulnerable the day after burying himself. He pushed too hard to pull back Hindley and then cracked on the final climb the next day.

UAE have to push with everything they've got tonight, hope he over extended himself last night and that it gives Pog a chance to break him on the final climb and claw something back.

Just hope the break goes. Ciccone deserves the polka dots, if he crests all of them in first he's unassailable.

Race for 3rd still open for me. Jai probably doesn't get there. Bilbao riding well, as is Rodriguez.

 

[eth-dog]

Jumbo could win all three GT's here. That's insane.

 

[Over The Post]

I knew I shouldn't have gone to bed at 1am...

The stage will be a great challenge, with more than 5,000 metres of vertical gain to deal with or exploit across the day. The finale will feature the Tour’s second visit to the impressive Col de la Loze, then plunge into Courchevel, where the final battle will take place on the altiport’s 18% runway.

 

[Dees]

Vingegaard has only looked vulnerable the day after burying himself. He pushed too hard to pull back Hindley and then cracked on the final climb the next day.

UAE have to push with everything they've got tonight, hope he over extended himself last night and that it gives Pog a chance to break him on the final climb and claw something back.

I don't think Jonas lost time for over-extending on the Hindley stage. I think he lost time the next day because he wanted to completely end Pog, and as a result did too much work in sections that still had significant draft benefit. Think Pog's best chance is for it to be as easy as possible tomorrow, see if he can attack late on Loze, and then go all in for an assault on Saturday.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't think Jonas lost time for over-extending on the Hindley stage. I think he lost time the next day because he wanted to completely end Pog, and as a result did too much work in sections that still had significant draft benefit. Think Pog's best chance is for it to be as easy as possible tomorrow, see if he can attack late on Loze, and then go all in for an assault on Saturday.

Nah, won't work. Has to be constant attacks tonight.

 

[Sleezy]

Yep, he's gotta risk blowing himself up in order to put Vingegaard in difficulty. If he's not got the legs then so be it. The worst thing that happens is he come second by 5 minutes instead of 2.

Nah, won't work. Has to be constant attacks tonight.

 

[eth-dog]

Okay, gonna use that recipe. Love chocolate fondant.

 

[Over The Post]

And here's me trying to do low carb high fat... all that sugar...

 

[eth-dog]

And here's me trying to do low carb high fat... all that sugar...

Request SMS for round 17, I'll bring a spare one just for you

 

[eth-dog]

Not sure why Jumbo are containing this to 3 minutes. They can afford an 8 minute lead.

 

[Over The Post]

Silly little crash for Bernal. Probably kicking himself.

 

[eth-dog]

So...

Yates, Gaudu, Bilbao or Gall?
Or Tadej/Jonas?

 

[Drummond]

And the Pog has cracked. Game over man.

 

[Substance]

This is sus

 

[99 Problems]

Great ride and result for Gall. Has been brilliant this tour. Not surprised by the method and execution from Jumbo and Jonas, the only surprise is how bad a day Pog had.

 

[eth-dog]

Gall, future star. Shocked about Tadej though. Second for Simon again!

 

[Over The Post]

Great stage. Loved it.

 

[eth-dog]

Polka dots the only jersey not done. Should be an exciting Saturday night for that then.

 

[eth-dog]

Geez, Simon Geschke cut it fine. Only 90 seconds left in the time delay when he got through to the finish

 

[Dees]

Great ride and result for Gall. Has been brilliant this tour. Not surprised by the method and execution from Jumbo and Jonas, the only surprise is how bad a day Pog had.

Yep. It's why thoughts of Pog making huge attacks last night were always fanciful. There is a clear template for how Jonas and Jumbo can defeat Pog. The fact is Jonas is just clearly better when the pace is high on huge mountain stages, particularly at high altitude:
Ventoux 2021
Grannon 2022
Hautacam 2022
Loze 2023

Could even add Loze 2020 to that also.

 

[Number37]

Yep. It's why thoughts of Pog making huge attacks last night were always fanciful. There is a clear template for how Jonas and Jumbo can defeat Pog. The fact is Jonas is just clearly better when the pace is high on huge mountain stages, particularly at high altitude:
Ventoux 2021
Grannon 2022
Hautacam 2022
Loze 2023

Could even add Loze 2020 to that also.

Pog has himself said he dislikes the heat, which is probably been more of a factor than the high altitude in all those stages.

 

[Sleezy]

Pog has himself said he dislikes the heat, which is probably been more of a factor than the high altitude in all those stages.

Agreed, pot had already cracked less than a third the way up the climb. That's not an altitude problem.

I think he just had bad legs.

 

[Dees]

Pog has himself said he dislikes the heat, which is probably been more of a factor than the high altitude in all those stages.

Yep that's fair. heat and long climbs (which more likely end at altitude anyway) more likely the issue rather than altitude specifically.