Langer was basically pushed to the margins by the ashes anyway, teams just got steadily better since langers control on the side was reduced, was just a massively over rated coach and we are better off with him gone.
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Langer was basically pushed to the margins by the ashes anyway, teams just got steadily better since langers control on the side was reduced, was just a massively over rated coach and we are better off with him gone.
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I could just as easily ask if we are going to stop Bancroft playing for Australia A so he doesn’t have to perform.
This nonsense has debunked many times in this thread.
LukeParkerno1
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Yep. I agree very limited coach who had massive flaws
so the argument is he didn't perform in one recent game? as opposed to the actual season in the shield.
Renshaw should be playing shield cricket for the remainder of the season. He has struggled and if he does want to be annointed to eventually replace Khawaja them making runs domestically against quality attacks is pretty important I would have thought.
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They weren’t that good and managed to lose to an Indian side that rested their whole attack and their best bat for most of it. Shouldn’t be losing twice at home.
I quote this because it is dead on:
"As with most generalisations, the large majority of people from Western Australia are fair-minded and even-tempered contributors to the Australian national project, compatriots that the rest of us are lucky to have. Alongside them lives an extremely vocal minority, including a few elected officials, with an astounding ratio of chip to shoulder when it comes to their relationship with everywhere on the other side of that long straight cross-continental line.
These are the people who complained it was unfair to miss out on Test matches during the pandemic, when their border was locked down like Andy Dufresne. When Tests did return and a paltry crowd showed up, they said that obviously nobody could go outside school holidays. When this season’s match moved to the school holidays, they said nobody could go because it was a work week. On the Saturday? People couldn’t go because club cricket was on. And the Sunday, when only 9,000 showed up to see Lyon become the third and probably last Australian bowler to reach 500 Test wickets, they said it was too close to Christmas and everyone was tired.
In that context, there is a hitherto unreached level of comedy to claiming state discrimination against Cameron Bancroft, a Western Australian who has made his case with runs in the Sheffield Shield, in favour of Cameron Green, a … Western Australian who made his case with runs in the Sheffield Shield."
More logic than conspiracy in Cameron Bancroft’s Test squad omission | Geoff Lemon
While some western observers might like to assume an agenda, the facilitation of Cameron Green’s return makes cricketing sense.
Your timeline is wrong.
In 2018, Alinta signed a four-year deal.
In 2021, Pat Cummins became Australian captain.
In 2022, Pat Cummins said he didn't want to appear in Alinta ads.
AFTER that conversation, Alinta still extended their deal by another 12 months.
Dude, get with the program, Cummins is Captain Woke and that’s final, don’t you be bringing facts to this debate
Ohhhh that might trigger a few posters on here hahaI quote this because it is dead on:
"As with most generalisations, the large majority of people from Western Australia are fair-minded and even-tempered contributors to the Australian national project, compatriots that the rest of us are lucky to have. Alongside them lives an extremely vocal minority, including a few elected officials, with an astounding ratio of chip to shoulder when it comes to their relationship with everywhere on the other side of that long straight cross-continental line.
These are the people who complained it was unfair to miss out on Test matches during the pandemic, when their border was locked down like Andy Dufresne. When Tests did return and a paltry crowd showed up, they said that obviously nobody could go outside school holidays. When this season’s match moved to the school holidays, they said nobody could go because it was a work week. On the Saturday? People couldn’t go because club cricket was on. And the Sunday, when only 9,000 showed up to see Lyon become the third and probably last Australian bowler to reach 500 Test wickets, they said it was too close to Christmas and everyone was tired.
In that context, there is a hitherto unreached level of comedy to claiming state discrimination against Cameron Bancroft, a Western Australian who has made his case with runs in the Sheffield Shield, in favour of Cameron Green, a … Western Australian who made his case with runs in the Sheffield Shield."
More logic than conspiracy in Cameron Bancroft’s Test squad omission | Geoff Lemon
While some western observers might like to assume an agenda, the facilitation of Cameron Green’s return makes cricketing sense.www.theguardian.com
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I agree with this btw, but Steve scored 6600 Shield runs at 49.7.
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Yes, and I'm happy to be corrected, but he took several years after getting picked for Australia to really pull it together for NSW as a batsman.
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The same state that thinks Josh Inglis is the best cricketer to have ever played the game and that Lance Morris is the next Michael Holding.
LukeParkerno1
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Inglis is a much better limited overs cricketer at least
Though the hype around Lance Morris being Shaun Tait reincarnated is hilariously wide of the mark.
Or, perhaps about 10-15km/h (even up to 20km/h) off the mark.
Or, perhaps about 10-15km/h (even up to 20km/h) off the mark.
Really? I thought he bowled up to 150? I'm not sure I've ever seen him bowl actually
In the BBL he's regularly around the low 140s, high 130s. The fastest I think I've seen clocked in is around 145 but that is not a regular thing.
You could be forgiven for thinking he bowled 150 regularly, all the commentators and media seem to hype him up as doing it every other ball, but I've never seen it.
The whole "wild thing" moniker being given to him is a joke.
Fair enough. Well I was actually a fan of picking him in the first test cause I thought he was real quick and you need to pick them when they're that quick. Low 140s is not going to get him to replace Cummins/Hazlewood/Starc, even Green gets up to 140 from memory.
Yeah pace wise he's nothing special.
I do think he's a decent bowler, though, and think he's right around the mark for selection based on overall quality. I'd rather have a look at him than Boland again, personally.
Speaking of fast bowlers I'm not sure why Liam Hatcher doesn't get more hype. He's over 145 regularly and is a good 5 faster than Morris.
I swear 2 or 3 yrs ago he was mid-late 130s. Where's the extra pace come from?
I swear 2 or 3 yrs ago he was mid-late 130s. Where's the extra pace come from?
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i didn't give a timeline? Nor is my comment un factual.
Cummins still was the major reason Alinta did not sign long term.
Cummins raised ethical objections with new Alinta deal with Nick Hockley PRIOR to extending - following much public furore Alinta didn't stay on.
Alinta was a lifeline after CA were dumped by Magellan, following the cheating scandal. Nice of Cummins to s**t on them, after they poured sponsorship money in at a dire time when other CA sponsors were running for the hills.
yeah but im he wouldn't do it to bancroft. l o l
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LukeParkerno1
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Not good enough simple. Shield standard at best
That's obvious, but in terms of just the pace he's never mentioned.
Meredith is shield standard at best but gets talked about because of pace.
Hatcher has a decent case for being the fastest bowler in the comp.
LukeParkerno1
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Spencer Johnson would be a yard quicker
About on par imo
Though I feel like Johnson bowls within himself so if he was trying to bowl faster I reckon he'd get there
