Coaching Roundabout - Coaching structure for 2015 finalised

[The Prosecutor]

But nah, Bomber only wants to coach for the year. Bomber is only doing it because he knows he gives it back to Hirdy at the end of the year because he doesn't want to coach anymore.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Believe me I backed Hird all the way until court case verdict but he needs to step down immediately if he truly loves the club.

Why?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Hadn't considered this. While I won't get my hopes up i will keep my fingers and toes crossed.

Would be funny (but extremely unfair on McKenna imo) if only moments before this "announcement" GCS announced the sacking of McKenna to persue bomber. Then McKenna can come take our (midfield?) and GCS are left with nothin. Cop it sunny boys!

They won't sack McKenna without having somebody in the bag.

They're a little bit more switched on than their mates up the highway.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

But nah, Bomber only wants to coach for the year. Bomber is only doing it because he knows he gives it back to Hirdy at the end of the year because he doesn't want to coach anymore.

Bomber is taking the team backwards.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Bomber is taking the team backwards.

I don't believe he is.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I don't believe he is.

We were objectively worse in 2014 than 2013 and arguably the first half of 2012. That is incredibly concerning.

 

[The Prosecutor]

We were objectively worse in 2014 than 2013 and arguably the first half of 2012. That is incredibly concerning.

Depends on what you are using to quantify that.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

They won't sack McKenna without having somebody in the bag.

They're a little bit more switched on than their mates up the highway.

They shouldn't sack Mckenna should at least give him next year they were always going to struggle once Gazza got injured.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Depends on what you are using to quantify that.

Performance.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

They shouldn't sack Mckenna should at least give him next year they were always going to struggle once Gazza got injured.

Bombers a better coach. End of story.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Performance.

Considerably better defensively than in 12/13, had a gameplan that was much more sustainable than 12/13 whilst developing more kids and playing players in positions that were both new and more beneficial to the team.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

We were objectively worse in 2014 than 2013 and arguably the first half of 2012. That is incredibly concerning.

You give Bomber no credit for 2012 and 2013?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Bombers a better coach. End of story.

True that.

Coaching is a tough caper and i will feel for Bluey just like i did with Sanderson.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

True that.

Coaching is a tough caper and i will feel for Bluey just like i did with Sanderson.

Absolute prick of a caper

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Considerably better defensively than in 12/13, had a gameplan that was much more sustainable than 12/13 whilst developing more kids and playing players in positions that were both new and more beneficial to the team.

More sustainable? We won 4 games comfortably (Rd 1, Rd 3, Rd 11, Rd 17). We lost to 18th and 17th, fell over the line against 16th, 15th and 14th twice and drew with 13th. How is that sustainable?

Despite being "better defensively" we gave up 5 goal leads in Rd 5, Rd 6, Rd 13, Rd 23 and the final and let a 5 goal lead come back to 9 points twice in Rd 14. We also gave up comfortable positions in Rd 12, Rd 18 and Rd 22. We lost games we led late in the final quarter in Rd 2, Rd 13, Rd 15 and the final.

If you can't see a seriously concerning pattern emerging there, you're just seeing what you want to see, not what is there.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

You give Bomber no credit for 2012 and 2013?

That's not what I said at all. My statement was that Bomber took the team backwards.

2011 was better than 2010.
2012 was better than 2011.
2013 was better than 2012.
2014 fell somewhere between 2011 and 2012 for mine. At best it was between 2012 and 2013.

I don't see how that can be denied.

 

[Paul_Barnard]

If Bomber stays on and the ASADA cloud hits the fan i.e. players get any suspensions, he always said none of the 2012 coaching staff could remain.
From that perspective, if he still has the passion to coach, it makes sense for him to be removed from the club..
Furthermore, could this be why we are getting Harvey back? As a ready made coach incase everything goes wrong?
I hope Bomber's love for EFC makes him stay... But it doesnt look too promising atm..

 

[Bunk Moreland]

That's not what I said at all. My statement was that Bomber took the team backwards.

2011 was better than 2010.
2012 was better than 2011.
2013 was better than 2012.
2014 fell somewhere between 2011 and 2012 for mine. At best it was between 2012 and 2013.

I don't see how that can be denied.

You seem to be saying Bomber took the team backwards, I just think it's worth noting he took the team forwards for the three prior years.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

You seem to be saying Bomber took the team backwards, I just think it's worth noting he took the team forwards for the three prior years.

OK, the absence of Hird then. However you want to spin it, it's not a fait accompli that he'd be better for us than Hird. The evidence points to the contrary.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I'm more than happy for Hird to coach but what if Hird gets the sack because players cop bans who do we replace as coach? this is what I'm worried about.

 

[Paul_Barnard]

I'm more than happy for Hird to coach but what if Hird gets the sack because players cop bans who do we replace as coach? this is what I'm worried about.

I think we are trying to get in Mark Harvey to cover that possibility...

 

[Bunk Moreland]

OK, the absence of Hird then. However you want to spin it, it's not a fait accompli that he'd be better for us than Hird. The evidence points to the contrary.

I don't think you can say Hird > Bomber

I think at this stage the evidence points to Hird+Bomber > Bomber

Hird alone is the big question that we don't know yet - and given Bombers long term track record it's a bloody big call to say Hird would be better than Bomber.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I think we are trying to get in Mark Harvey to cover that possibility...

I'm 50/50 on Harvey.

 

[micfizzypatrick]

I'm more than happy for Hird to coach but what if Hird gets the sack because players cop bans who do we replace as coach? this is what I'm worried about.

The coach of the team will be the least of our concerns under that situation.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

The coach of the team will be the least of our concerns under that situation.

True.

****ing hell this club was going places when Hird and Bomber arrived (off field) don't understand how we ended up in this situation.