Commonwealth Budget 2015

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crackerjack4X4 said:
In relation to minerals situated within state boundaries, first sight, the power to legislate for minerals remains with the states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_mining_law
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Your argument is moot - we already had a 100% legal and legitimate Mineral Resources Tax - the tax rate was just a joke cause lil Kev got scared. We could have had a system almost identical to Norway and would have reaped massive rewards.
 

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The Edukator said:
Yeah okay sorry. I'll pay for his mistakes. Deal with it.
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I reckon we've hashed out the petty arguments - time to get back to the current budget (if anyone has anything left to say on it)
 
Xsess said:
The boats have stopped
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The boats haven't stopped setting sail you muppet - they've just stopped getting to Australia (temporarily).
Anyway, are we going to get back to the budget or keep this tit for tat s**t up? If you aren't talking budget I'm done with the thread

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They've stopped reaching Australia which was a goal. So they've stopped the boats. This is what's implied and that's the message I always took from the statement. I'm pretty sure the majority do too.
 
The Edukator said:
They've stopped reaching Australia which was a goal. So they've stopped the boats. This is what's implied.
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How long do you think that will last though? Read one of my earlier posts and have a look at the news - multiple boats sinking in and around the Malay Peninsula, inept Thai, Malay and Indonesian governments trying to deal with it - this won't last long and before you can say Sovereign Borders there will be a whole lot of boats going unchecked by our Northern neighbours and knocking down our door. Once again - can you flogs get back to the budget or are you incapable of letting a debate die?
 

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CaloundraClown said:
How long do you think that will last though? Read one of my earlier posts and have a look at the news - multiple boats sinking in and around the Malay Peninsula, inept Thai, Malay and Indonesian governments trying to deal with it - this won't last long and before you can say Sovereign Borders there will be a whole lot of boats going unchecked by our Northern neighbours and knocking down our door. Once again - can you flogs get back to the budget or are you incapable of letting a debate die?
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Wild exaggeration. You seem to have no idea at all about this issue.

In reality the vast, vast majority of people smuggler boats that came to Australia in the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd originated in Indonesia and were crammed with people smuggler customers who had first flown into Djakarta on passenger jets from the other side of the world - the Middle East. Around 50K of them over four years.

They no longer come since the Abbott govt quickly put a stop to the racket.

The boats heading for Malaysia and Indonesia (not Australia) have originated in a people smuggler hub in Thailand specialising in Rohingans plus Bangladesh economic migrants. None of the passengers have been buying people smuggler tickets with a guarantee of Australian citizenship attached.

The only way such boats could head for Australia is if Indonesia and Malaysia directed them here - which could happen but is unlikely.
 
Membling said:
No I mean Australia's resources.

Imagine if this mentality in regards to resources was done prior to WA's mining boom. WA would be stuffed.
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Meanwhile, those of us blessed to be born with a brain look at the moves by China and Vale and see a cruise missile heading towards Australia. At least politicians and public servants have a life indexed pension, so it won’t be their problem!
 
Xsess said:
Meanwhile, those of us blessed to be born with a brain look at the moves by China and Vale and see a cruise missile heading towards Australia. At least politicians and public servants have a life indexed pension, so it won’t be their problem!
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Oh dear. Stop. Just stop.
 
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...wincome-people-acoss-analysis-20150522-gh6z2z

By keeping most of the last year's budget cuts, and introducing new ones in the May budget, the Abbott government is stripping more than $15 billion over four years from families and lower-income Australians, new analysis by the Australian Council of Social Service shows.
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Yet, they have significantly increased the deficit. Better economic vandals.

The report, obtained by Fairfax Media, says most of the $800 million revenue increases projected over the next five years come from income tax bracket creep and projected economic growth.
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Their "real" solution.

Meanwhile the "Tax Whitepaper" sham that is all about raising the GST:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/prim...nges-to-negative-gearing-20150416-1mmibf.html

Changes to super and negative gearing are excluded.

What say you now, conservative cheerleaders?
 
yibbida said:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...wincome-people-acoss-analysis-20150522-gh6z2z



Yet, they have significantly increased the deficit. Better economic vandals.



Their "real" solution.

Meanwhile the "Tax Whitepaper" sham that is all about raising the GST:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/prim...nges-to-negative-gearing-20150416-1mmibf.html

Changes to super and negative gearing are excluded.

What say you now, conservative cheerleaders?
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I don't know why you have a problem with negative gearing, it is a legitimate personal expense that is available to everyone.
If you borrow a small amount for an investment that will pay you some income then the interest expense is deductable from your income.
 
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