Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

[Chief]

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/pages/covid-stats-australia/

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Roby]

The panic and mass hysteria is the true virus.

This is you Light_Soda a week ago. Let me guess your username light soda likes to drink fizzy drinks. Not a healthy diet. I'm guessing you'll be in a world of hurt if you get it. But keep telling everybody there is nothing to see here.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

None of those are on the scale of Italy.

However, we are not talking about these countries.

We are talking about Australia, and it's progression at the current time, there is no need to tie Italy or Iran, to what we are seeing for ourselves. This is just your wish to fear-monger and perpetuate an endless mass hysteria - either to justify your decrease in finances due to stupidly hoarding, or the stress you've probably caused others around you.

Yes but we are doing ourselves no favours we are just very fortunate or lucky cases have been mild.

 

[mezaire]

Current mortality rate in Australia is 0.7%

Down -0.1% from 2 days ago.

822 active cases are mild - 2 are critical.

We are tracking better than the majority of the world, and this is uplifting to us as a nation and a good sign.

A huge blow to the ego of hoarders, and a huge blow to fear-mongers and those that desire a doomsday scenario.

Oh how I hope Australia continues on this trend.

Just extrapolated out the data at a growth of 12% deaths a day worldwide and in 2 months we are at 1 million deaths a day with nearly 10 million deaths!
If the growth rate goes up to 13% then there are 1.65 milliu\on deaths a day after 2 months!

Shutting down everything possible makes sense or/and warmer weather in the northers hemisphere helps slow it down

 

[tige19]

Current mortality rate in Australia is 0.7%

Down -0.1% from 2 days ago.

822 active cases are mild - 2 are critical.

We are tracking better than the majority of the world, and this is uplifting to us as a nation and a good sign.

A huge blow to the ego of hoarders, and a huge blow to fear-mongers and those that desire a doomsday scenario.

No rounded summation of facts and data will ever change the mind of the fruitcakes here... There is legitimate pleasure in these nut jobs to promote fear and chaos.

 

[Light_Soda]

Luck.

 

[tige19]

Lol. What's a Spain? What's a France? What's USA? What's a Iran? What's a China?

Do we compare our HIV infection rates to Africa? Well, just because, hypothetically that’s how bad it could get if all of our population started rooting each other without protection. Your posting is alarmist hypotheticals, almost bordering on insanity.

 

[Roby]

None of those are on the scale of Italy.

However, we are not talking about these countries.

We are talking about Australia, and it's progression at the current time, there is no need to tie Italy or Iran, to what we are seeing for ourselves. This is just your wish to fear-monger and perpetuate an endless mass hysteria - either to justify your decrease in finances due to stupidly hoarding, or the stress you've probably caused others around you.

You're so wrong it's not even funny troll anymore.

 

[Roby]

Are

Do we compare our HIV infection rates to Africa? Well, just because, hypothetically that’s how bad it could get if all of our population started rooting each other without protection. Your posting is alarmist hypotheticals, almost bordering on insanity.

Are you scared? If it's all a big nothing why are you here and not going outside enjoying your life?

 

[Plugger35]

Bondi yesterday... why are we so surprised cases are spiking?

Hard to argue that AFL games should be called off when stuff like that is still going on, there's more chance of spreading the virus there than at an AFL game played at an empty stadium.

 

[D-N-R]

And Lyssa fever came from Australia, and RRV came from Australia and plenty others came from Australia.

They should be called Australian virus 1, through however many they are.

Can't come into work today, got Australia virus 4.

On moto g(6) plus using BigFooty.com mobile app

They should call it Drop Bear Virus. That'll make a few tourists nervous.

Just like Dorothy in the Wizard of OZ, just keep repeating 'we're nothing like Italy' and I guess it will come true.

Unfortunately right now the truth is we're tracking worse than Italy in % increase of cases. And this with the added benefit of hindsight. The word "quarantine" was invented in Venice, not in England or Australia. We are worse than Italy.


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...story/757ccb4fb844f4fe28f6e68cc09a088b#.9dtmm



That Twitter post is one day old now and we're up to 876 right now. Only 46 have totally recovered.

Raw numbers don't tell the true story.

Comparing the growth rate in Italy, where it is community transfer, to the growth rate in Australia, where there have been lots of people bring the virus in from OS, isn't comparing apples with apples.

Like looking at the death rate and saying it's low when the demographics of those infected doesn't resemble the demographics of general society.

Since the stricter measures on international travel, our rate has slowed. A true measure will be once we do more testing in the community.

Having said that, the photos from bondi are shocking. NSW is probably in the worst situation and need to start cracking down. Shutting beaches and parks might be in order.

Spain and Italy made matters worse when they quarantined by people jumping in their cars and heading to beaches, the mountains and other cities like it was some national holiday. This has lead to spread to other parts of their countries.

 

[Roby]

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Luck.

Only 5% could die. * me.

When the system is overwhelmed and that number will more than double will you then comr back to say but only 10% might die!

 

[Roby]

They should call it Drop Bear Virus. That'll make a few tourists nervous.

Raw numbers don't tell the true story.

Comparing the growth rate in Italy, where it is community transfer, to the growth rate in Australia, where there have been lots of people bring the virus in from OS, isn't comparing apples with apples.

Like looking at the death rate and saying it's low when the demographics of those infected doesn't resemble the demographics of general society.

Since the stricter measures on international travel, our rate has slowed. A true measure will be once we do more testing in the community.

Having said that, the photos from bondi are shocking. NSW is probably in the worst situation and need to start cracking down. Shutting beaches and parks might be in order.

Spain and Italy made matters worse when they quarantined by people jumping in their cars and heading to beaches, the mountains and other cities like it was some national holiday. This has lead to spread to other parts of their countries.

Once it explodes and overwhelmes the system it will be too late. And no countries will help us because they got their own s**t to deal with.

The ones ahead of us are telling is now get ready and get as prepared as you can. Do everything you can to slow the spread.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It’s sad how bigfooty threads start out being balanced and informative, then degenerate to just a few people who revel in extreme views triggering each other.

I don’t think they hold extreme views just get off on the triggering of each other, and allocation extreme views Of the other extreme to some group of people who have long vacated the forum cos it’s turned to poo.

we are still in a wait and see phase here. Latest reports is 2/3 of discovered cases here come form returned folk. The community spread is not large yet or just unknown. It may be a good sign. If we are to be a location where size of community spread is an issue, we may still be several days behind other locations, and still in the unknown phase

An interesting article on the three main ways we can approach the virus .

The case for shutting down almost everything, and restarting when coronavirus is gone | John Daley

Here are the three endgames Australia could pursue, and why we should choose the most radical

www.theguardian.com

 

[kingswood71]

No rounded summation of facts and data will ever change the mind of the fruitcakes here... There is legitimate pleasure in these nut jobs to promote fear and chaos.

To give a balanced non-alarmist, non-doomsdayer view. Say we said a death rate of 0.7%. Wouldnt the actual deaths be related then to how many of the population actually get the virus? So if it was 40% of the population, 0.7 would be 78,000 deaths. 20% would be half that obviously.
Thats the great unknown. Thats what we are trying to avoid.

 

[Power Raid]

Only 5% could die. fu** me.

When the system is overwhelmed and that number will more than double will you then comr back to say but only 10% might die!

The 1% claimed by authorities is due to many that catch corona don’t know they have it or not unwell enough to be tested

Just relax, it will be fine

The system is always strained and as they say “never let a crisis go to waste”. Corporates, departments and government need your fear.

 

[kingswood71]

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Luck.

Not so lucky for 11%.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

The 1% claimed by authorities is due to many that catch corona don’t know they have it or not unwell enough to be tested

Just relax, it will be fine

The system is always strained and as they say “never let a crisis go to waste”. Corporates, departments and government need your fear.

That's it. Everyday Australians losing their jobs. Corporate monopolies preparing to thrive when this all winds down

 

[Power Raid]

That's it. Everyday Australians losing their jobs. Corporate monopolies preparing to thrive when this all winds down

Insurance sells fear
Medical industry the same

Governments want more tax
Governments want more power......eroding civil liberties


There are loads of examples and in times of crisis, civilians happily give their wealth and rights away

 

[tige19]

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Not so lucky for 11%.

True to form, as per all nut jobs you use global data that entails highly dense populations, poorer health systems, higher percentage of smokers, older populations and slower moving governments.

The only data we should be measuring is our own, that is relevant to our geographical and social relevance.

don’t we have enough cases to now refrain from global numbers? We now have enough of a case to understand our own unique landscape for how the virus spreads and effects our country?

 

[Pessimistic]

Current mortality rate in Australia is 0.7%

Down -0.1% from 2 days ago.

822 active cases are mild - 2 are critical.

We are tracking better than the majority of the world, and this is uplifting to us as a nation and a good sign.

A huge blow to the ego of hoarders, and a huge blow to fear-mongers and those that desire a doomsday scenario.

surely we are all happy at our ‘luck’

 

[Roby]

True to form, as per all the other inept nut jobs you use global data that entails highly dense populations, poorer health systems, higher percentage of smokers, older populations and slower moving governments.

The only data we should be measuring is our own, that is relevant to our geographical and social relevance.

Calling everybody that disagres with you a nut job and then cherry picking stats to suit an argument...

 

[owen87]

Death rate here in Australia is 0.7%..

Based on the ABS the flu has a 0.5% death rate and infects 100s of thousands of people. Theres a reason alarmist and drama queens won’t compare, it doesn’t fit the shock value and the doomsday narrative they are enjoying promoting.

If anyone wants to work out percentages and death rates then do so from official sources, and remember we live in Australia, not Italy or Spain or the US so let’s concentrate on our data. I don’t see any of you blabber on about Africa’s HIV rate as a comparative figure that we would use in Australia “because it’s an example of what COULD happen without action”. Pathetic.

Covid19 death rate Australia: 0.7%
Flue death rate Australia: 0.5%

3303.0 - Causes of Death, Australia, 2017

www.abs.gov.au

Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,239,149 Cases and 2,804,346 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

Check my post above. People are moronic fools, genuinely inept nuffies.

I can’t decide whether you’re deliberately obtuse or just don’t understand the numbers, and the implications of a growth in cases upon those numbers.

We have already time, and time again, been over the conversation regarding Italy, and it has been time, and time again, understood through not only rational thought, but also through data, that Italy is an extreme case, an anomaly. Enough. Educate yourself.

Have you checked the data of the past week? The projections of the data?

It’s looking increasingly likely that China and other Asian countries are the outliers, not Italy.

No rounded summation of facts and data will ever change the mind of the fruitcakes here... There is legitimate pleasure in these nut jobs to promote fear and chaos.

I want people to take this seriously so that community action like Japan and Singapore means we see a limited, short-term impact here.

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Not so lucky for 11%.

Check the excluding China figures of resolved cases as well, China is the outlier so far, not Italy.

Most of those resolved cases are Chinese, the rest of the world is a month or more behind.

 

[tige19]

Calling everybody that disagres with you a nut job and then cherry picking stats to suit an argument...

If you promote 100s of thousands of deaths in Australia as the outcome then yes I consider you a nut.

 

[Roby]

surely we are all happy at our ‘luck’

Yeah we're so annoyed it's not worse. Let's all forget this and go back to normal life.

 

[tige19]

I can’t decide whether you’re deliberately obtuse or just don’t understand the numbers, and the implications of a growth in cases upon those numbers.



Have you checked the data of the past week? The projections of the data?

It’s looking increasingly likely that China and other Asian countries are the outliers, not Italy.



I want people to take this seriously so that community action like Japan and Singapore means we see a limited, short-term impact here.



Check the excluding China figures of resolved cases as well, China is the outlier so far, not Italy.

Most of those resolved cases are Chinese, the rest of the world is a month or more behind.

Didnt SCOMO advise that around 80% of cases were imported and not via community spread, you really think that was the case in Italy or China? Cmon mate.