Ed's latest campaign - clubs in debt should have salary cap spending limits.

[Hollow Knight]

Apologies for shaky cam. Thoughts? Sounds like this is the latest horse he is going to flog to death.

I would have thought bringing in exciting talent and putting bums on seats in Brisbane would be one of the best immediate measures to build our brand and improve our overall bottom line.

Isn't the whole idea of the salary cap to close the gap between the haves and have nots?

Eddie's campaign against Brisbane's former salary cap concessions is one thing, but now apparently he wants reverse-concessions implemented. How is this guy on the equalisation committee?

 

[The_Eagles]

Collingwood
West Coast

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I'm ok with this

 

[Donakebab]

Actually shouldn't clubs with more money have a lower salary cap as they can afford to splurge more on department spending?

 

[SuperSub17]

At no point in that video did he actually say there should be smaller salary caps. He just questioned what might happen to Brisbane if they're under such financial pressure.

I have no doubt that most people won't bother watching the video and this thread will become another Eddie whinge-fest.

 

[legend166]

Sounds like a great way for those with inferior facilities to never be able to catch up to the rich clubs. If it's able to be serviced, debt is a perfectly legitimate option for large projects.

 

[FRUMPY]

At no point in that video did he actually say there should be smaller salary caps. He just questioned what might happen to Brisbane if they're under such financial pressure.

I have no doubt that most people won't bother watching the video and this thread will become another Eddie whinge-fest.

It was definetly eddie have a sly dig at other clubs on his new campaign

 

[hench]

I wish some of the less fortunate Melbourne clubs would come out and tell Ed to shut the * up and complain about what's going on in Sydney and the like.

 

[Hollow Knight]

At no point in that video did he actually say there should be smaller salary caps. He just questioned what might happen to Brisbane if they're under such financial pressure.

Oh dude, c'mon. Take off the blinkers and watch it again. "Is it right that they can spend extra money and go after Paddy Ryder".

He said it is not the last we will hear from him on the matter. We'll see how accurate your interpretation is.

 

[RUNVS]

At no point in that video did he actually say there should be smaller salary caps. He just questioned what might happen to Brisbane if they're under such financial pressure.

I have no doubt that most people won't bother watching the video and this thread will become another Eddie whinge-fest.

If a club avoids spending money on players because of financial pressure that is a death spiral for a club. If Brisbane improve on the field they will improve off the field. In order to make money Brisbane need to spend money.

 

[danielnajdek]

I thought the dig at Sydney was pretty funny.

 

[DaVillaBlues]

He said yesterday that Brisbane were 12 Million in the Red (debt)

But the fact is, Brisbane will continue to lose money/sponsorships/fans if they continue being down the bottom of the ladder, and paying money for a recruit like Beams who would probably put bums on seats and give a very talented but young/raw midfield some much needed gravitas and experience would be a shrewd investment.

I agree with the OP 100 %. Eddie's moral crusades and thinking what he knows best for other clubs and the AFL in general, is becoming extremely tedious and irritating.

 

[cryptor]

Makes sense that a poor club shouldn't be forced to pay a certain minimum (currently 95%) of the cap. If they have debts to pay and a bunch of average players then let them pay 70% of the cap for a few years, pay their debts off and then once they're in the black again they can make responsible and sustainable decisions when going after free agents.

Giving them a lower salary cap isn't going to help but then that's not what Eddie was suggesting.

 

[manicmagpie]

Thoughts?

My thoughts are that with such a huge discrepancy between your headline (& the video title) and the actual content, you've easily passed the entry exam for working at the Herald Sun.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Besides, the path to Brisbane getting back in the black is clear. We have to move our training and admin base away from the Gabba where we are losing about 2 million a year and we have to finalise the early interest payments on our Springwood entertainment venue (potentially with some short term interest free loans from the AFL). All that, plus fielding a footy team that is competitive and exciting and we are on our way.

His suggestion that is isn't right that we should be able to use our salary cap to its full potential until that is complete is just clearly indicating his desire to have some perenially hamstrung teams for Collingwood to kick around.

 

[Devington]

If a club avoids spending money on players because of financial pressure that is a death spiral for a club. If Brisbane improve on the field they will improve off the field. In order to make money Brisbane need to spend money.

Agreed 100%. People constantly crap on about the salary cap being the most effective equalisation method, the last thing anyone should be doing is questioning whether it's wise to be using it to the maximum of their ability.

Oh and as a side note, I hate the idea of "banking" cap space. Could eventuate in some disgusting practises. Delist some old fogeys, tank for a year and don't pay the full cap; next year bring in a top pick, and a star towards their end of their career on big bucks and challenge. Rinse repeat.

The AFL likes to complicate things too much.

 

[SuperSub17]

Oh dude, c'mon. Take off the blinkers and watch it again. "Is it right that they can spend extra money and go after Paddy Ryder".

He said it is not the last we will hear from him on the matter. We'll see how accurate your interpretation is.

Meh he also said "we need them to be a good side" and "we need all clubs to be able to pay the salary cap".

Your thread title though is ridiculously sensationalist and clearly trying to incite more choruses of whingeing.

 

[danielnajdek]

I think Brisbane and Sydney supporters need a tissue.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Makes sense that a poor club shouldn't be forced to pay a certain minimum (currently 95%) of the cap. If they have debts to pay and a bunch of average players then let them pay 70% of the cap for a few years, pay their debts off and then once they're in the black again they can make responsible and sustainable decisions when going after free agents.

What in the actual seven asterices? Eddie isn't saying "give Brisbane permission to spend under the minimum cap..." he is suggesting that we shouldn't be allowed to spend the maximum cap.

How does us spending 70 percent cap and being a total on-field basketcase push us towards improving our financial position? Sorry but you clearly have a massive misunderstanding of the reasons why we are financially struggling.

 

[whatboutbob]

Ed's implication was pretty clear. He thinks the Lions shouldn't be allowed to spend over 95% of the cap while they're in debt.

He's clearly getting nervous about the Beams rumours.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Meh he also said "we need them to be a good side" and "we need all clubs to be able to pay the salary cap".

Yes, he did, and then followed up these political platitudes with a policy solution which IMO is patently contradictory to that aim. Basically equivalent to saying "I'm not racist but" and then following up with a patently offensive statement.

Your thread title though is ridiculously sensationalist and clearly trying to incite more choruses of whingeing.

No, it was to generate a discussion on the merits of his proposal. You're just being too precious to step back and do so.

Happy to discuss the actual issues at hand which many other posters are already doing. Not interested in your inaccurate suggestions of what the thread is trying to do. Weigh in or move on.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Eddie is a self-interested idiot. Rather than clubs not being allowed to pay the full cap the AFL should be focusing on not allowing clubs to spend over the cap through 3rd party deals arranged by the club President - how is Trav going reading the news on Channel 9 anyway?

 

[SuperSub17]

Yes, he did, and then followed up these political platitudes with a policy solution which IMO is patently contradictory to that aim. Basically equivalent to saying "I'm not racist but" and then following up with a patently offensive statement.

No, it was to generate a discussion on the merits of his proposal. You're just being too precious to step back and do so.

Happy to discuss the actual issues at hand which many other posters are already doing. Not interested in your inaccurate suggestions of what the thread is trying to do. Weigh in or move on.

What he said was the prospect of being forced to pay up their debt when they weren't in a position to be able to do so. Whether that may happen or not is up for debate, and Ricciuto seemed to think it wouldn't.

I really think you're reading something into it that just wasn't there. Your accusations of preciousness are also a little ironic given Brisbane and Sydney supporters' tendency to complain about this sort of thing.

 

[cryptor]

What in the actual seven asterices? Eddie isn't saying "give Brisbane permission to spend under the minimum cap..." he is suggesting that we shouldn't be allowed to spend the maximum cap.

How does us spending 70 percent cap and being a total on-field basketcase push us towards improving our financial position? Sorry but you clearly have a massive misunderstanding of the reasons why we are financially struggling.

You have a young list and a lot of the players are probably getting paid more than they are really worth due to the requirement that every team must pay at least 95% of the cap. So while your club is being forced to over pay kids the debts mount up and the club is limited in the amount they can spend on external things that could generate money for them in the future.

I'm saying Brisbane shouldn't be forced to over pay their players to meet that 95%. Let them pay what they're worth so that the money can be used to pay off debts and be invested in things that will make them more sustainable.

 

[whatboutbob]

You have a young list and a lot of the players are probably getting paid more than they are really worth due to the requirement that every team must pay at least 95% of the cap. So while your club is being forced to over pay kids the debts mount up and the club is limited in the amount they can spend on external things that could generate money for them in the future.

I'm saying Brisbane shouldn't be forced to over pay their players to meet that 95%. Let them pay what they're worth so that the money can be used to pay off debts and be invested in things that will make them more sustainable.

Or we could, yanno, use the cap space available to every other team to get some decent players so we could compete on-field, which in turn would help put bums on seats and improve matters off-field...

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

So whether the Maggies are in finals or not, Eddie can't shut up regardless ...

****.