No Oppo Supporters Hawthorn’s 2019 Trade/FA - Targets/Incoming players discussion only - Next Part

[Crankyhawk]

I’m with you - if he’s fit.

Yes he played at Essendrugs during the scandal - but he would have been 20-21. I hold the senior players in contempt for not speaking out about the program - a 20 year old kid likely had no ******* clue what was happening. He’s also one of only a couple of players to leave the cesspool.

And he’s on film having done a line of coke - who cares? If you think all our players are abstinent angels then you’re kidding yourself.

Our list as it stands could absolutely use a player like him if he can’t get his body right.

If GW, Clarko and the medicos tick this one off and it comes at a reasonable trade - then let’s get it done.

If aints need cap room we should wedge them.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

As someone living in Perth, I can tell you for sure that Bennell has not cleaned up his act... Almost every weekend I have mates that see him out doing stupid s**t in clubs etc

Its the anaesthetic from calf surgery.

 

[I got the outside word]

As someone living in Perth, I can tell you for sure that Bennell has not cleaned up his act... Almost every weekend I have mates that see him out doing stupid s**t in clubs etc

Define ‘stupid s**t’?

 

[hawkmang]

Define ‘stupid s**t’?

Getting in fights/obvious use of drugs/arguments with bouncers etc

 

[SodaPop]

Do you reckon Cedric will be upset at being dropped on the eve of the finals?

 

[tige19]

Clarko went after him before. Possibly he realises that doing some lines doesn’t make you Satan.

Not only that but the naivety to think the majority of our boys don’t dabble is laughable.

 

[triple treat]

Getting in fights/obvious use of drugs/arguments with bouncers etc

Highly doubt that mate. If he was getting into fights and having any kind of altercation with bouncers it would of been reported! By the way I know people who know him so I know this is cr#p!

 

[tige19]

I can't see him at the Portsea polo over summer with a few of the other boys but if Jordan Lewis is hearing that
Bennell has cleaned up his act than what says Carlisle hasn't either?

Haha Jake is a bogan from Crazyburn, he would have grown up around some rough people and seen a lot, that’s why I don’t think we should judge him harshly on the nose beer video. Compared to a large majority of people he would have grown up with, Jake would be an angel and a model citizen.

It’s now or never for Jake, a true generational type of talent who has never come on like he should have... possibly could be a Brian Lake V2 minus the after footy life troubles lol.

 

[threesixpio]

Can exclusively confirm plans for the GWS round 1 banner next season.

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Ah ha ha. The internet won today

 

[Xtreme]

Highly doubt that mate. If he was getting into fights and having any kind of altercation with bouncers it would of been reported! By the way I know people who know him so I know this is cr#p!

A lot of people know Ben Cousins as well and look at what's happening to him!

 

[Slysh]

Haha Jake is a bogan from Crazyburn, he would have grown up around some rough people and seen a lot, that’s why I don’t think we should judge him harshly on the nose beer video. Compared to a large majority of people he would have grown up with, Jake would be an angel and a model citizen.

It’s now or never for Jake, a true generational type of talent who has never come on like he should have... possibly could be a Brian Lake V2 minus the after footy life troubles lol.

The Lake comparison is a great one, he has the ability to be every bit the player that Lake was for us. His hands are elite. he fills a need and will come at a good price. I honestly think any Hawk fan that doesn't want him (assuming the docs give his body the all clear) has to have rocks in their head.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Getting in fights/obvious use of drugs/arguments with bouncers etc

Doesn’t he also have links with bikies over in WA also? Honestly - rec drug use I can abide, dealing with criminal gangs not so much.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Not only that but the naivety to think the majority of our boys don’t dabble is laughable.

The way some posters go on about players who have been caught doing some party drugs as though no Hawks players are into them is just wilful ignorance.

 

[Roughie]

The way some posters go on about players who have been caught doing some party drugs as though no Hawks players are into them is just wilful ignorance.

Injunction

 

[Xtreme]

The way some posters go on about players who have been caught doing some party drugs as though no Hawks players are into them is just wilful ignorance.

Until there are headlines or photos surfacing of Burgoyne burying his face in white stuff. Then Hawthorn are the cleanest club of the league

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Until there are headlines or photos surfacing of Burgoyne burying his face in white stuff. Then Hawthorn are the cleanest club of the league

Travis Tuck likes this.

 

[Harper_Hawk]

Would love Carlisle and Bennell at the Hawks. Clarkson will sort them out. If they want to win premierships then come. Damn what I would give to see Bennell ripping it up in a Hawks jumper. Would be buddyesque...another saint of the Hawthorn Football Club. Lol.

 

[Brant]

I keep reading that we need to trade out of round one if Downie is expected to be bid on in the top 5, but I'm not so sure.

Let's say someone bids on him at Pick 5. That is 1,878 points (using the current AFL table). We get a 25% discount, meaning we need to find 1,408 points from somewhere.

If we finish (conservatively speaking) 6th. We would get pick 13 & 31. Pick 13 is worth 1,212 points. Not enough, so we would have to use points off our second pick. Pick 31 is worth 606 points, so we would still need to find another 802 points or Pick 23 (815 pts) in a trade.

Sorry, how does that work?

If Pick 5 is 1,878, but we'd get him for 1,408?

So Pick 13 is 1,212 & Pick 31 is 606. That's 1,818 points, for a guy that cost 1,408. Wouldn't we have our hand out, asking for 410 Points change instead of having to add Pick 23 (815 Points)?

 

[Mercy Seat]

Carlisle is a massive bogan, I cannot see him (nor Bennell) fitting in the club at all. The club place a lot of emphasis on quality people and personalities at the club and that extends to recruiting. I agree that our current crop are unlikely squeaky clean in terms of the extracurriculars, but at least they're smart enought to avoid the trouble these two have found themselves in.

 

[triple treat]

A lot of people know Ben Cousins as well and look at what's happening to him!

What’s your point?

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

David Schwarz comes to mind. Stretching my memory but I think he had 3 reco's and played reasonable football after his 3rd but not the athletic player he'd been before. But yes there is precedence.

On Nexus 6P using BigFooty.com mobile app

Won a BnF if I recall. Turned into a battering ram basically who split packs as opposed to the agile beast he was before the knees. Nothing wrong with that style of play if it helps the team win.

 

[Hawkie_McHawkHawk]

The Hawks won’t take a risk on Bennell, the club are in the middle of trying to re-establish a premiership culture and those at the helm aren’t as short sighted to be giving a chance to a bloke that’s had too many chances already. That’s the kind of thing Essendon take a punt on and stay as unrelevent as they have the past 20 years.

 

[Xtreme]

What’s your point?

He could well be going off the rails and family/friends none the wiser.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Carlisle is a massive bogan, I cannot see him (nor Bennell) fitting in the club at all. The club place a lot of emphasis on quality people and personalities at the club and that extends to recruiting. I agree that our current crop are unlikely squeaky clean in terms of the extracurriculars, but at least they're smart enought to avoid the trouble these two have found themselves in.

Carlisle has one video a few years back now. He hasn’t got a string of off field issues like Bennell does.

Hawthorn has had plenty of ‘bogan’ types over the years - it’s just silly to make out that we don’t have some loose units at the club.

 

[I got the outside word]

The Hawks won’t take a risk on Bennell, the club are in the middle of trying to re-establish a premiership culture and those at the helm aren’t as short sighted to be giving a chance to a bloke that’s had too many chances already. That’s the kind of thing Essendon take a punt on and stay as unrelevent as they have the past 20 years.

Wasn’t Sydney Stack a naughty boy?