Interesting article by Caro - Port Adelaide to go broke in three years under AO deal

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Not a bad article from Caro in today's Age.

Ian Collins predicted Port Adelaide would go broke in three years under Adelaide Oval deal

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Both the Crows and the Power were alarmed at the high costs and low match returns from early season games. Photo: Getty Images
Former Etihad Stadium boss Ian Collins advised Port Adelaide against signing the contentious Adelaide Oval agreement, warning chairman David Koch that the club would be broke within three seasons under the deal it was being offered.
Collins' 20-page review, commissioned by Koch and delivered to the club last year, predicted a number of pitfalls in the agreement, which have since become reality and will be debated at next week's review of the Adelaide Oval contract to be chaired by AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan.
Fairfax Media understands Collins was so concerned about the deal being handed to both Port and the Adelaide Crows that he aired those concerns with his close friend and AFL commissioner Bill Kelty.
Kelty is understood to have passed the Collins report to McLachlan.
It has also emerged that Port Adelaide chief executive Keith Thomas was under pressure through 2013 to retain his job so fierce was the animosity from the SANFL - which then still held the licences of both the Power and the Crows - as Thomas continually challenged aspects of the Adelaide Oval contract.
The Power board was being pressured by the some key SANFL players to remove Thomas despite his strong relationship with the AFL, successful football appointments and achievement in unifying Power and Port Magpie factions.
The highly sensitive negotiations to move AFL football from AAMI Stadium to the Adelaide Oval - highlighted by outgoing AFL boss Andrew Demetriou as the greatest achievement of his regime - took more than four years to come to fruition.
It was a saga punctuated by acrimony and some fiercely emotive battles between the South Australian football governing body, the government, the AFL and the two Adelaide AFL clubs.
Signed at the 11th hour in March 2014, both clubs only agreed to terms on the condition of a mid-season review of the agreement, which will start on July 18. Adelaide and Port Adelaide remain disenchanted at the financial model and concerned the agreement was reached in haste with the AFL determined to complete the deal on the eve of the season.
Despite a record membership, attendances, on-field success and unprecedented corporate support, Port Adelaide is unlikely to achieve a profit this season and remains hopeful of a break-even result.
Adelaide is forecasting a modest profit of between $100,00 and $200,000. Against that, both clubs have far exceeded attendance expectations at Adelaide Oval with total crowd numbers after 16 games at least 120,000 ahead of pre-season forecasts.
While the Adelaide Oval has proved one good news story for 2014, both the Crows and the Power were alarmed at the high costs and low match returns from early season games, and remain concerned that the forthcoming review sees the Stadium Management Authority under no legal compulsion to change the deal.
The contract deadline in March also saw the two clubs buy their licences back from the SA Football Commission in a 15-year financial agreement that will come in the form of South Australian game development grants.
McLachlan, who oversaw the landmark Adelaide Oval agreement, will be assisted in the review by his general manager of strategy and club services Sam Graham. The AFL's legal and finance boss Andrew Dillon and Ian Anderson have also been heavily involved in the Adelaide Oval contract and the early match returns respectively. The new AFL boss McLachlan refused to comment on Thursday when asked whether he had seen the Collins report.
Collins would not return calls from Fairfax Media on Thursday. The long-time Carlton CEO, AFL executive and Docklands stadium boss, virtually from its outset, is also consulting to Brookfield Multiplex, the consortium that has won the tender to to build the new Perth Stadium, which will host all West Coast and Fremantle AFL games.
Twelve months ago Collins warned Port Adelaide the club would be signing away any significant say in the running of the stadium and would unfairly force both Port and the Crows to carry too heavy a burden in underwriting its SANFL members. He warned Koch the club was being forced into an unfair contract weighted heavily towards the Stadium Management Authority and by extension the SANFL.
Thomas and Crows chief Steven Trigg - who was forced out of negotiations for six months while suspended last year by the AFL - will be fighting for their clubs from next Friday at the review. Both clubs reportedly are pushing to earn 70 cents from every dollar earned at their home games - a percentage comparable with that earned by the WA clubs at Paterson Stadium.


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the SANFL needs to die - seriosuly selfish organisation only interested in lining their own pockets
 

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Who cares as the AFL will bail them out. Just as they have done with a number of other clubs.
 
If this is true both of the Adelaide clubs are in massive trouble. Also maybe some people who may have doubted the greed of the SANFL may now realise how true this could be. Make no mistake, this is a real issue for both clubs and it needs to be fixed.

Probably would have been better to take our time and get it right the first time.

You guys were strutting around, chests out bragging about dragging the AFC 'kicking and screaming' to Adelaide Oval earlier this year. You were happy to take the credit, but now it doesn't appear all **** and chocolate as you were expecting it is somebody else's (the SANFL's) fault?
 
If this is true both of the Adelaide clubs are in massive trouble. Also maybe some people who may have doubted the greed of the SANFL may now realise how true this could be. Make no mistake, this is a real issue for both clubs and it needs to be fixed.
Giving our money to the SANFl, who then look after the very clubs that created us, sustain us and breed the grass root supporters for us, rather than give our coin to the silver spooned family loving upper class SACA toffs, is a no brainer.
 
the SANFL needs to die - seriosuly selfish organisation only interested in lining their own pockets

But why would it be any other way? We were on our path to independence and as a separate entity, of course you'd expect the SANFL to act in its own interests. I would hope that we would also act in our own interests.

Blame the dickheads at both teams who negotiated the deal.
 
Wow what an attitude, are you happy with the Crows having record membership, bumper crowds & barely turning profits?
Of course not.

It absolutely vindicates our reluctance to rush in and sign any deal put in front of us as Port were so desperate to do though.
 
But why would it be any other way? We were on our path to independence and as a separate entity, of course you'd expect the SANFL to act in its own interests. I would hope that we would also act in our own interests.

Blame the dickheads at both teams who negotiated the deal.
oh believe me, i do blame both organisations. i just blame them more
 
Wow what an attitude, are you happy with the Crows having record membership, bumper crowds & barely turning profits?
are you happy with the same?

you guys are seriously in trouble when the AO bubble bursts - as we are
 

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are you happy with the same?

you guys are seriously in trouble when the AO bubble bursts - as we are
Of course I'm not happy but we'll just have to wait and see what comes out from the review. Both clubs are working together on this (nice to see for a change), there will have to be some change surely......... but we know who we are dealing with
 
You know how we have the saying 'Only in America', this is Adelaide version!

'Only in Adelaide' could both clubs be promised the world, yet the SMA and SANFL decide to screw the clubs for everything they are worth. The SANFL from what I understand is one entity that is making an absolute fortune out of AO. Which is strange, because last time I checked the AFL plays at Adelaide Oval. The SANFL and SMA have a lot of embarrassing questions to answer I think. Could it be that in the final stages of the deal being finalised some greedy buffoons decided to hold the AFL clubs to ransom in the fine print.
 
Giving our money to the SANFl, who then look after the very clubs that created us, sustain us and breed the grass root supporters for us, rather than give our coin to the silver spooned family loving upper class SACA toffs, is a no brainer.

Dude, the SANFL don't deserve a red cent out of this. They don't provide the product nor a single dollar of investment. It just seems in the make of the SMA the SANFL conned their way into receiving massive dollars for something they don't deserve. The SANFL clubs do not need nor deserve AFL dollars. The AFL send money to grass roots footy anyhow. The SANFL are just double dipping for their coffers.
 
Thats your problem now.
So you've got no issue with a deal that's set to earn us just 100-200k? This is with us basically pulling the best crowd numbers we ever have and are currently sitting second behind Collingwood for attendance to home games. I'd like to think we'd be racking it in with these sort of numbers which in turn could then be used to better improve our club.
 
Never fear Super Trigg is here to save the day!

I can sleep easy knowing that this mastermind is involved in the re-negotiation.
ah, but this is one thing Trigg is not responsible for.

He is on record as wanting to get the numbers before committing - he was rubbished both at the time and in hindsight as at rd 1...

but now the numbers are coming out his desire to crunch the numbers doesn't appear to be that outrageous.
 
So you've got no issue with a deal that's set to earn us just 100-200k? This is with us basically pulling the best crowd numbers we ever have and are currently sitting second behind Collingwood for attendance to home games. I'd like to think we'd be racking it in with these sort of numbers which in turn could then be used to better improve our club.

Apparently as stated on another thread he has taken his bat and ball and gone home. Alex his now a Blues supporter.
 

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