Geez. How big is she?
Is Adelaide Oval too small?
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Greater Milan has a population of just over 7 million.
The main football stadium the San Siro holds just over 80,000.
It's 2 world famous Soccer Clubs Inter and AC that dwarf any AFL clubs, home games averaged 46k and 43k respectively.
Greater Madrid has a population of 6.5 million.
The main football stadium, the Bernabeu has a capacity of 85,000.
It's 2 world famous Soccer Clubs Real and Athletico, that dwarf any AFL clubs, home games averaged 70k and 46k respectively.
Adelaide's population is 1.3 million. At 53,500, Adelaide Oval is plenty big enough. We ain't ever getting a Grand Final played there.
The main football stadium the San Siro holds just over 80,000.
It's 2 world famous Soccer Clubs Inter and AC that dwarf any AFL clubs, home games averaged 46k and 43k respectively.
Greater Madrid has a population of 6.5 million.
The main football stadium, the Bernabeu has a capacity of 85,000.
It's 2 world famous Soccer Clubs Real and Athletico, that dwarf any AFL clubs, home games averaged 70k and 46k respectively.
Adelaide's population is 1.3 million. At 53,500, Adelaide Oval is plenty big enough. We ain't ever getting a Grand Final played there.
- Feb 21, 2009
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- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Ferrari, Chicago Bulls
This, create a demand, and charge what you want.
It sucks for the average Joe, but that's the way it works.
Can't see the broke SA Govt upgrading AO in the next decade atleast.
Filling in that end would not increase capacity of the ground by 30%.
It would add maybe 5-6K and you lose the nice backdrop, not really worth it IMO.
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- Liverpool FC, Carolina Panther's
We've already spent so much money on this stadium, I was just trying to be cost effective
- Feb 21, 2009
- 15,446
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- Port Adelaide
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- Ferrari, Chicago Bulls
That's a fair point, only SA can manage the costs they come up with
Ironic given I work in Procurement...
I posted a similar reply in another Adelaide Oval thread. The novelty of the new ground will wear off, and Port and/or the Crows will be crap again one day. But the Adelaide Oval redevelopment simply has not accounted for population growth. Adelaide's population is growing slower than the other capitals, but it's about to tick over to 1.3 million. Adelaide Oval can hold a larger percentage of the city's population than the MCG can of Melbourne's. Our supporter base, however, is not fragmented into ten clubs. I would say at least 80% of the footy-following people in Adelaide barrack for the Crows or Power.
If both clubs are playing like they are now in the year 2030, Adelaide Oval will be sold out for every single game. Yes, it's atmospheric and provides an incentive to get membership, but there will be waiting lists and football is not private entertainment for a certain group of people. When that time comes (and it will come, even if it's the late 30s or early 40s), SA will have to consider its options.
I like the fact that the hill and scoreboard have been retained. I liked the old Adelaide Oval. But rather than go searching for a new stadium location and spending the money building it from scratch, I say build a bigger Riverbank Stand on the hill. They can also make the western grandstand taller for good measure. That should bring the capacity to 65,000 (or even 70,000 if done right). 70,000 would be enough until late this century
If both clubs are playing like they are now in the year 2030, Adelaide Oval will be sold out for every single game. Yes, it's atmospheric and provides an incentive to get membership, but there will be waiting lists and football is not private entertainment for a certain group of people. When that time comes (and it will come, even if it's the late 30s or early 40s), SA will have to consider its options.
I like the fact that the hill and scoreboard have been retained. I liked the old Adelaide Oval. But rather than go searching for a new stadium location and spending the money building it from scratch, I say build a bigger Riverbank Stand on the hill. They can also make the western grandstand taller for good measure. That should bring the capacity to 65,000 (or even 70,000 if done right). 70,000 would be enough until late this century
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pppft you got your shiney new oval WA's turn next
melbournemartin
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Doubt it, those trees are untouchable. And besides, it gives a beautiful and unique look to the ground, and also standing room is awesome.
We need MORE standing room in Australian stadiums, not less. Are they still getting rid of it at Geelong? That'd be a great shame if true. Always good fun there.
MonkeyMagik
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Watch a game from the hill and you will understand why this can never happen.
Power Raid
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Capacity: 53,583
2014 Crows average: 48,046 (1st in the league)
2014 Port average: 44,521 (4th in the league)
2014 lowest crowd: 34,258 (Port v Bulldogs)
2014 50k+ crowds: 9
Now we know the stadium has an open end (see below) that could probably be filled in and take the stadium capacity to 70k. The SACA has said in the past that they will not touch that area because of its historical significance but often when it comes to situations like this money does the talking. The traditional cricket scoreboard could easily be maintained while adding a grandstand. So, is Adelaide Oval too small and should it be upgraded?
yes but wait 10 years
Power Raid
We Exist To Win Premierships
why? too many people standing around, preventing construction?
Power Raid
We Exist To Win Premierships
The hill is pretty cool, if the western stand had been built to match the other side the extra 5k would make it around a perfect capacity.
Balance
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Atletico plays at a different stadium, holds 54851. Real Madrid used to sell out every game easily, so did Atletico, until the tv rights deals a few years ago meant that games got weird time-slots to accommodate for Asian audiences. A lot of games got pushed back later at night, the bigger teams played more Sunday night/Monday night games and everything turned to shlt.
As for Seria A and the Milan teams, that's another completely different story, but they too were getting much bigger crowds until match fixing and corruption scandals (revelations) hit the league.
Apples and oranges, College football crowds in the States may be a better example (though very different still).
Justinpa1
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I still think they should expand the Eastern stand and add another section on, to take it to next to the scoreboard (which people in the Eastern stand can't see anyway). This would add another 5000 and take capacity up to 58,500 & still keep the precious hill and trees.
This would be perfect for now as both Port (first time ever) & Crows (first time for about 10 year's) have membership waiting lists.
This would be perfect for now as both Port (first time ever) & Crows (first time for about 10 year's) have membership waiting lists.
Unless port is a premiership threat or on a roll every year Adelaide Oval may be to big for them.
lets see how they are doing 5 years in on averages.
lets see how they are doing 5 years in on averages.
AlbertonBloke
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Don't get me wrong I love the new oval development and it is awesome for cricket and football but why did we have to do much to it anyway? It was a world class stadium as it was. And it wouldve been perfect as Ports homeground to begin with and the crows couldve stayed in swampland as they all wanted to until they saw how good AO was going to be
It's a better arrangment when you got a cross town rivalry when the rivals are actually... you know, cross town.
In Perth, I wish Freo actually played at Freo Oval, so the derby could be played north and south of the river each year.
They seem to have it right in Sydney and SEQ.
Watch the possibilities of a larger bank balance and you will see why it will happen.
If the ground continues to sell out like it has been for another five or so years then bring in Norwood, simples.
This is the crowd figures for the top four games at Adelaide Oval. Port are in the top three home games.
52,505 Port Adelaide v Carlton
52,233 Port Adelaide v Hawthorn
50,618 Port Adelaide v Richmond
50,552 Adelaide Crows v Port Adelaide
AlbertonBloke
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And the fact we only have 1 stadium here now for Cricket,AFL and big sporting or music events it seems like it will get very tired quick. One of the main reasons Port supporters hated going to Football Park was it was dressed up in Crows advertising all around it,Crows headquarters, Crows merch shops, their shed for flogging off or whatever they did in it. It just felt off but we the proud few still turned up during the great and poor years,and I would be saying to the lads we should be at Adelaide oval on the hill watching this as we did for the SANFL games
Really? What was with the massive bay covers then?
