Tertiary and Continuing Is University Worth It?

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Membling said:
Gathered that it was something akin to that. That's if I don't get grad position and decide I need to get some experience in a financial environment. If I don't get into grad programmes gotta get in somewhere
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This guy started as a bank teller : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Murray_(Australian_businessman)

Not sure about starting uni at 25. Imagine starting to build your life that late eg. saving money 30-35, buying a house 35+, having first kids around 35-40. Seems a bit messed up to me.
 

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Deliverance said:
This guy started as a bank teller : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Murray_(Australian_businessman)

Not sure about starting uni at 25. Imagine starting to build your life that late eg. saving money 30-35, buying a house 35+, having first kids around 35-40. Seems a bit messed up to me.
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Times have changed. Double income are the norm now. So your personal savings aren't important as they use to be when starting a family. Your other half should chip in. So starting Uni late these days is a non-issue.
 
davo99 said:
Into my second year of my law degree, I'm bloody hopeful it's worth it. However, just looking at few jobs on seek, they don't say tertiary qualification needed. In my view, work experience should be offered in third year degrees to get hands on experience. This only happens in a few degrees e.g. Nursing, Teaching.
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Make sure you do some work experience as soon as you can.

It will not only hep you get a job but help you choose what area of law you want to specialise in.


Oh and good luck with your career!
 
Deliverance said:
This guy started as a bank teller : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Murray_(Australian_businessman)

Not sure about starting uni at 25. Imagine starting to build your life that late eg. saving money 30-35, buying a house 35+, having first kids around 35-40. Seems a bit messed up to me.
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I started a second degree at the age of 27. By the time I finished I was 29.

A few things fell in my favour financially and I was semi-retired by the 38. Now, only working as a non exec of my own company, listed companies and unlisted; I have plenty of time for family, friends and more importantly myself.

So I couldn't be happier with the late restart.
 
I think it's worth it but I agree with those saying experience in a profession is too. I've spent two years working in a profession and am now taking 12 months LWOP to do my masters full time (gotta do it, job is in WA and the Masters is at ANU).

I know this will help me with my study but will also mean once I'm finished my Masters and am going for the job I actually want to go for with the backing of a masters in the field, I can point to my experiences from 2 years in my previous job to help me get there - It'll be a graduate level position, but compare me, with 2 undergrad degrees, a Masters and 2 years work experience to a 22 year old with an undergrad and it's night and day really.
 
Membling said:
Gathered that it was something akin to that. That's if I don't get grad position and decide I need to get some experience in a financial environment. If I don't get into grad programmes gotta get in somewhere
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There are lots of jobs outside of the grad programs that aren't teller jobs. Definitely have a look at what the field entails.
 
stormee said:
compare me, with 2 undergrad degrees, a Masters and 2 years work experience to a 22 year old with an undergrad and it's night and day really.
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You'll get credit for commitment but what people are interested in is identifying talent & potential for where you'll be in 5 or 10 years.

Things like performance I.e. actual grades will be as important as accumulation
 

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I hate the positive trade theory that many young students on this forum promote. It shows utter incompetence which is normal at their age.

Tradies are only paid well in Australia. If you go overseas you are on minimum wage...Australia may end up like this one day..who knows?

$30,000 for a 3 year course may seem like a lot when your younger...but it's hecs with no risk unlike other countries. 30k for a 3 year course isn't a lot when you start needed to buy cars, insurance, just general costs of life.

Grow up kiddies.
 
Sanders said:
You'll get credit for commitment but what people are interested in is identifying talent & potential for where you'll be in 5 or 10 years.

Things like performance I.e. actual grades will be as important as accumulation
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Yeah I do see what you're saying... I guess I also have two years of work experience in a very similar field on top of the masters.. that shows I can perform also. So yeah it's not all based around qualifications and level of education but performance too. At least now nobodys going to go back and ask for my undergrad grades lol :oops:
 
Power Raid said:
I started a second degree at the age of 27. By the time I finished I was 29.

A few things fell in my favour financially and I was semi-retired by the 38. Now, only working as a non exec of my own company, listed companies and unlisted; I have plenty of time for family, friends and more importantly myself.

So I couldn't be happier with the late restart.
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Wow, sounds like you've done well for yourself Power Raid and set yourself up nicely!

If I may ask, was your second degree related/in a similar field to your first degree or did you study something completely different to your first degree?
 
NUFC Tiger said:
Wow, sounds like you've done well for yourself Power Raid and set yourself up nicely!

If I may ask, was your second degree related/in a similar field to your first degree or did you study something completely different to your first degree?
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I wanted to be a business man as a kid but didn't know what one was. So I studied science first and then moved to finance and accounting the second time. Topped it off with a CA.

I have to confess I was pretty ordinary at everything I did up until 33 as my heart wasn't in mechanics, science or accounting.

The success in finance and business development required good management and a heap of luck. Luckily, I surrounded myself with good quality motivated people.
 
Power Raid said:
I wanted to be a business man as a kid but didn't know what one was. So I studied science first and then moved to finance and accounting the second time. Topped it off with a CA.

I have to confess I was pretty ordinary at everything I did up until 33 as my heart wasn't in mechanics, science or accounting.

The success in finance and business development required good management and a heap of luck. Luckily, I surrounded myself with good quality motivated people.
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Nice! A bit of inspiration for me to draw on then :D

I'm 24 and have a bachelor of business but on reflection, I could have done better at Uni/put more effort in. I'm working full time at the moment but wouldn't mind doing further study at some point as well as maybe having my own business one day (though not sure in what!). Maybe with time/maturity/experience things will click and I'll get more motivation to do something similar down the track :thumbsu:
 
To state the obvious, going to uni and it being worth it completely depends on what profession you're looking at getting into. I can see what they're saying, that you could spend 3 years doing a degree and rack up the fees, or you could spend 3 years working your way up and be in a similar/better position at the end of it, plus getting paid along the way.

I think what's more important is going to uni with goals/a clear idea of why you're going and what you'll get out of it. It seems like a lot of people finish high school then go to uni still not sure about what they want to do, they then change courses or drop out, or complete the course then hate it. That is when it's a waste of time and money.
 
NUFC Tiger said:
Nice! A bit of inspiration for me to draw on then :D

I'm 24 and have a bachelor of business but on reflection, I could have done better at Uni/put more effort in. I'm working full time at the moment but wouldn't mind doing further study at some point as well as maybe having my own business one day (though not sure in what!). Maybe with time/maturity/experience things will click and I'll get more motivation to do something similar down the track :thumbsu:
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Good luck with your endeavours and stay in touch.

and feel free to bounce ideas if you want in a PM when you are ready.




oh, the only advice I would have is enjoy your 20s. Play sport, go travelling, chase chicks or what ever young guys do these days. You are only young once and you have your 30s and 40s to carve out a career or build a business.
 
The job I'm currently in doesn't require a University degree to do, there are people I work with who don't have any formal qualifications.
The thing is, I got this job from a recruiter, who gave me a shot because I was a University graduate with reasonable marks. I don't think I would have got that same opportunity if I'd just finished school and applied for the job outright.

Uni is valid if your job requires a qualification, i.e if you want to be a lawyer, you need the qualification, same as a teacher, doctor etc. If you want to work in a role that doesn't require qualifications, then a degree isn't necessary, but it can look good on a resume. Sometimes getting a job is about being in the right place at the right time.
 
I will tell you what's more important than a degree, knowing people, and having social skills, and knowing how to work people.

People hire people they like, I've seen people get promoted based on the fact they were in tight with the powers that be. It might not be the most ethical, but it's the way the world works.
 
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