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He probably has set all the door frames to a height of 150cm so he can get used to whacks in the head.
Official Club Stuff Jay Schulz staying at Port - Officially announced
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He probably has set all the door frames to a height of 150cm so he can get used to whacks in the head.
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Carlisle wants to play as KPD
I'm not bitching about his performance I would just rather see him walk than us overpay him.
Obviously the ideal scenario would be him staying on for a realistic amount of money.
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Imagine how low the door frames must be at Joel Selwood's house.
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The good news is, our bad performance this year probably gives us the bargaining power for carlisle, but Essendon being the *******s they are at tradeweek, will make it impossible.
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Yeah that's exactly what I said... Well read...
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I know it isn't what you said or implied, but what I think about it, and not to single you out, but to everyone, if we are prepared to give Carlisle more than he would be getting from the bombers/more than we can spare for Schulz, we are overpaying based on demonstrated form.
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I'd rather give Schulz a bit more than he is worth to see him in to retirement, than give Carlisle a bit more than he is worth, which is what we would have to do to get him interstate.
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I herd Schulz is not signing due to a movie contract he has signed to play the role of "Ozzie" joe Buggner.
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Very true but in saying that I'd rather not overpay a 30 year old even though I'd love to see him finish his career with Port.
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Yes I agree with most of that, but as Carlisle has been the only other option bandied about in case an agreement with Schulz can't be reached... I'd rather a deal made with the Sarge
We aren't anywhere near the top at the moment so more than likely we will not win a premiership with An aging Schulz. I don't think overpaying a 30+ year old who will demand a fair chunk of cash will get us any closer to a premiership.
Maybe Carlisle can be that guy to help us move forward, he's still very young. Obviously a huge risk especially when the bloke thinks he is a backman.
It's tough, I really don't think Carlisle is the guy to come in. I heard today he wants to stay in Melboirne anyway.
Two things I hate about AFL. The way we treat the kids via the draft system and the way we treat the player who's around the 30 mark.
We all love our players to be one club players yet if you're close to turning 30 and the "window" or cap doesn't suit then we are happy to show you the door.
It's a tough one. Jay is more than in his rights to secure his future by earning every dollar he can while he still can, but in order to do that should he be forced to walk away after 6 years and helping us through our darkest days.
It just doesn't seem right.
We all love our players to be one club players yet if you're close to turning 30 and the "window" or cap doesn't suit then we are happy to show you the door.
It's a tough one. Jay is more than in his rights to secure his future by earning every dollar he can while he still can, but in order to do that should he be forced to walk away after 6 years and helping us through our darkest days.
It just doesn't seem right.
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Difficult. Has been a fantastic player for us who should have been one of our highest paid players. Reward players why they are at their best. I'm not sure Schulz believes anymore. He goes to ground like a player who thinks the opposition has him easily covered. Bit like Monfries. Very disappointing. Want to see him fly again and believe.
I don't see the going to ground easily trait in either of Schulz or Monfries? In one-on-one aerial contests even when in form they probably lose more than they win, but it's not as a result of effort. Just a reflection of their mid-tier athletic status in the AFL.
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I don't think at any point in his career Schulz would've been in the top 5 earning players at Port, despite being in our top 5 players during his time here. That's what I've been saying for a while.
Maybe we've signed him up at opportune times and got away with underpaying him?
Think part of this year is due to having Ryder up forward.
Schulz has never been able to play with another leading forward in his career. Struggled to play with Richo, struggled to play with Tredrea, struggled whenever Butcher was in the side, seems to be somewhat of a struggle with Ryder.
He can play with Westhoff, but Westhoff is a bit different in that he has large stints out of the forward line, and the Hoff revamped his game from his debut season and stopped relying on space for marks.
Wonder if we can poach Hawthorn's forward coach or something, they seem to get it right with any combination of players.
Schulz has never been able to play with another leading forward in his career. Struggled to play with Richo, struggled to play with Tredrea, struggled whenever Butcher was in the side, seems to be somewhat of a struggle with Ryder.
He can play with Westhoff, but Westhoff is a bit different in that he has large stints out of the forward line, and the Hoff revamped his game from his debut season and stopped relying on space for marks.
Wonder if we can poach Hawthorn's forward coach or something, they seem to get it right with any combination of players.
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Sorry, it's a business. From 29 onwards its lower contracts or graceful forced retirements.
Can't pay Robbie, Boak, Ryder, Wines etc and also keep players like Shulz on good deals
Can't have it all in the business of football
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No, it's a club that runs a business.
But...
As a business, we've gotten away with underpaying our best performer in a particular field for a long time now, so are we a fair business that values it's people, or a campaigner?
Could be right on underpaying, but hey I think I am underpaid as well but I stay.
Great debate. A club that runs a business or a business that is a club? With a 40 million turnover and a 50000 stadium and 18 mill spend on our team. I vote it is a business that is a club
SANFL clubs are a club that has a business
Great debate though!
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