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Wish we employed this tactic before picking up Harry O!
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Bullying and intimidation is sad coming from senior coaches/ administrators especially given that they themselves have often already received so much from the system.
These guys are lining up for a job at the age of 17-18 to pursue a career that will earn them somewhere between 60k first year - 1 million a year throughout their career?
Might need to accept that they will get asked some tough questions and that AFL clubs are essentially a business looking for the most valuable employee they can find?
Hilarious how everyone thinks Brodie Grundy is the interview king, when he got taken at- what, pick 18? - after being a consensus top three pick on talent. All you guys saying you would have done the same thing as Grundy in the interviews would have slid from pick 50 to pick nothing. He's lucky he can play football, because clearly 17 clubs think he's a *******.
You've written three paragraphs about his footballing ability justifying his selection by Collingwood, which is arguing against a point I didn't make. I said that he was top three in the draft pool for footballing talent, and got selected at 18 because his interview style made him a much less attractive draftee. If you'd like to form an argument against that assertion, be my guest. His ability to rove his own ball has nothing to do with it (and nor, might I suggest, does the club that I support, but then that's bigfooty's favourite straw man argument, isn't it?).
I don't care that he's a good footballer. My point is that talking like a smart arse in a job interview (which bigfooty appears to be idolising) does not improve one's chances of getting the job.
Lucky he can play football? The kid is already doing quite alright without football. He has got his head screwed on, more than about 790 other players in the AFL.Hilarious how everyone thinks Brodie Grundy is the interview king, when he got taken at- what, pick 18? - after being a consensus top three pick on talent. All you guys saying you would have done the same thing as Grundy in the interviews would have slid from pick 50 to pick nothing. He's lucky he can play football, because clearly 17 clubs think he's a *******.
You've written three paragraphs about his footballing ability justifying his selection by Collingwood, which is arguing against a point I didn't make. I said that he was top three in the draft pool for footballing talent, and got selected at 18 because his interview style made him a much less attractive draftee. If you'd like to form an argument against that assertion, be my guest. His ability to rove his own ball has nothing to do with it (and nor, might I suggest, does the club that I support, but then that's bigfooty's favourite straw man argument, isn't it?).
I don't care that he's a good footballer. My point is that talking like a smart arse in a job interview (which bigfooty appears to be idolising) does not improve one's chances of getting the job.
You've written three paragraphs about his footballing ability justifying his selection by Collingwood, which is arguing against a point I didn't make. I said that he was top three in the draft pool for footballing talent, and got selected at 18 because his interview style made him a much less attractive draftee. If you'd like to form an argument against that assertion, be my guest. His ability to rove his own ball has nothing to do with it (and nor, might I suggest, does the club that I support, but then that's bigfooty's favourite straw man argument, isn't it?).
I don't care that he's a good footballer. My point is that talking like a smart arse in a job interview (which bigfooty appears to be idolising) does not improve one's chances of getting the job.
Chad O'Sullivan finished 2nd in the 2002 Tac cup's Morrish Medal and didn't get drafted, Melbourne were the only club to interview him for only a rookie spot which they didn't take. Currently playing for North Adelaide, they have him listed at 175cmThere was a bloke a few years back, dominated and I think won some medal for Vic Metro. But he was 170cm tall, never got a look in even though he was killing it in juniors.
You can tell the minimum wagers in this thread...
Wish we employed this tactic before picking up Harry O!
His ability to rove his own ball has nothing to do with it (and nor, might I suggest, does the club that I support, but then that's bigfooty's favourite straw man argument, isn't it?).
Dreamons wish they drafted that well- scully, watts, trengrove, lolzzzzzzzzzzz
You've written three paragraphs about his footballing ability justifying his selection by Collingwood, which is arguing against a point I didn't make. I said that he was top three in the draft pool for footballing talent, and got selected at 18 because his interview style made him a much less attractive draftee. If you'd like to form an argument against that assertion, be my guest. His ability to rove his own ball has nothing to do with it (and nor, might I suggest, does the club that I support, but then that's bigfooty's favourite straw man argument, isn't it?).
I don't care that he's a good footballer. My point is that talking like a smart arse in a job interview (which bigfooty appears to be idolising) does not improve one's chances of getting the job.
You can accuse people of fallacies but the thing is, you're committing them too. No club drafts entirely on interviews – they just alter perceptions and add elements to risk and reward. Grundy dropped down the order for plenty of reasons: like a potentially SA-bound Aish did, like a short Taylor did, like a disappointingly tested Acres did, like an unfit Cameron did.
Perhaps I haven't articulated my point very well. My point is this: there's a bunch of Grundy fanboys on here saying "Yeah, Grundy knows how to interview, he showed those bullies, if I was at the draft camp I'd do it exactly the same way he did because that's how you be a man, rah rah rah!"
Grundy's interview style saw him slide down the order, and quite significantly too I'd say, on the available evidence. As an exceptionally talented footballer, he slid from pick 1-3 down to 18. Were he not an exceptionally talented footballer, he'd have slide from pick 50 to the SANFL.
Thus, all those chest thumping earlier in the thread about what a legend he is and that all draftees should adopt his interview tactic are utterly misguided.
That was my point.
That argument is bullshit. Are we going to get the union in for unfair dismissal after they are delisted? Or give coaches bullying and work place training for giving a player a spray at half time?Any idea what rights are? Just cause a job is highly paid or important doesnt mean you can just bypass minimum workplace standards
Nothing to did with the injuries he had?
lots of people with a below average IQ like yourself seem to automatically think anyone who is smart has a big ego.
On a side note I find it highly ironic that a Melbourne fan is giving people a lecture about something draft related.
Two things re Dusty and Choco a lot of people might think Choco had a fair insight and I think Tommy Hafey had a saying the dumber the player the better the footballerI'm not the world's most avid draft watcher, but I don't recall that being listed as a particularly major issue at the time, no.
I don't know Grundy at all. I'm telling the chest-thumpers in this thread that the conclusions they've drawn from the information they're providing are illogical. Odd that you would accuse me of having a low IQ, however, given that you don't know me, either. A rather glaring piece of hypocrisy in the space of two sentences, on your part.
I find it ironic that a person accusing me of having a low IQ would then stoop to an Ad Hominem argument based on a fallacious appeal to association. Congratulations on fitting so many logical fallacies into a single sentence! Good day, sir.
That argument is bullshit. Are we going to get the union in for unfair dismissal after they are delisted? Or give coaches bullying and work place training for giving a player a spray at half time?
I'm also pretty sure most kids wont be asked to tape up a broken nose and get back out there like they are expected to in the AFL. they AFL is very different from a normal workforce and should be treated accordingly, anyone who thinks otherwise has no clue.
You rant about low IQs then come out with this pearler. Autocol sits at the Melbourne table on draft day, does he?On a side note I find it highly ironic that a Melbourne fan is giving people a lecture about something draft related.