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I think they are technically 'NAB Challenge'-type games.
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Excluding 100 point wins, on how many occasions has a team registered a score of 140?
There have been 70 scores of 140 - 69 were not 100 point wins.
There were 5 in 1972. There haven't been any since 2007.
Only 1 score of 140 has been a losing score.
Why the interest?
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I feel that once a score hits 140, it's pretty much an elite-ish score.
One that doesn't happen regularly over the years.
One that doesn't happen regularly over the years.
137 - 84 times - last 2009
138 - 62 times - last 2007
139 - 72 times - last 2011
140 - 70 times - last 2007
141 - 73 times - last 2009
142 - 56 times - last 2011
143 - 62 times - last 2011
144 - 62 times - last 2007
145 - 65 times - last 2011
146 - 51 times - last 2011
147 - 47 times - last 2011
148 - 40 times - last 2011
149 - 59 times - last 2011
150 - 38 times - last 2011
151 - 57 times - last 2010
All scores 36 to 129 have each occurred more than 100 times.
The highest score to have occurred more than 100 times is 133 (110 times.)
All scores from 30 to 166 have occurred at least once in the last 5 seasons except 42 (last in 2004).
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Just to clarify my question re score of 140, I meant 140 or more.
1,469 times, which includes 238 of the 256 100-point wins.
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You are a genius mate.
.How you keep churning out the figures is beyond me.
You are a statistical god.
.Keep on churning out these gems.
P.s. I'm gonna record these scores of 140 or more (excluding the 100 pointers as I have them in a separate Notepad file.)
It's gonna be an exhaustive task but I'm willing to do it.
P.p.s. how long have you been compiling these oddities and quirks for?
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Back to my question of players being born on the day another made their debuts, have any players retired on the same day another was born?
You are a genius mate.
But not a perfect one! You got the 136 figures for 137 (its been corrected)
137 - 84 times - last 2009 not 81 times last 2011 which is for 136.
(Copied them off the screen instead of exporting them from the database.)
Put all the results into a database and ask the computer to count them how you want.
Limited manipulator of scores and results.You are a statistical god.
You are aware of RogersResults ?
PM me your email and I'll send you a list of all the 140 plus scores.
Started entering on the computer soon after you could have such a thing at home. All the computer knows are all the match scores 1897-2011, then you just have to ask the right questions.
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Nah it's ok Rogers but thanks for the offer.
I feel like I'm asking for too much here.
RogersResults, the best thing to come from Wagga since Paul Kelly.
P.s. I'm aware of your site.
I go to it via KT's Footystats.
I feel like I'm asking for too much here.
RogersResults, the best thing to come from Wagga since Paul Kelly.
P.s. I'm aware of your site.
I go to it via KT's Footystats.
Only take a couple of minutes if you want your own list of 140 plus scores.
. And the Chiko Roll!
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If it includes the quarter time, half time, 3/4 time and full time scores, I'll PM you my email name.
With the usual disclaimer (i.e. it may be complete cack) I make it 40 wins 13 losses and a draw for the team with a 6 day break (when the other team had more than 6) in 2011.
Alltime P 1449, W 710, L 721, D 18. Only happened once to 1979, in 1970.
Alltime P 1449, W 710, L 721, D 18. Only happened once to 1979, in 1970.
I'm not set up to verify whether its cack or not but the alltime figures suggest no significant difference but which were the teams in 2011?
In 1909 round 6 was played on Saturday 5 June. All teams then played round 7 on Monday 7 June. The only noticeable difference was that average scores were 7 points higher on the Monday.
Full breakdown of results when one team has had a shorter break than the other:
Code:
Dy1 Dy2 W L D Win %
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0 9 0 1 0 -
0 194 1 0 0 100.0
0 209 1 0 0 100.0
0 210 0 2 0 -
0 211 1 0 0 100.0
0 217 0 2 0 -
0 238 1 0 0 100.0
0 245 1 1 0 50.0
2 3 0 2 0 -
4 5 2 0 0 100.0
4 7 1 0 0 100.0
4 11 0 1 0 -
5 6 33 29 1 53.2
5 7 135 133 3 50.4
5 8 1 6 0 14.3
5 9 1 1 0 50.0
5 12 0 1 0 -
5 13 1 1 0 50.0
5 14 5 9 0 35.7
5 17 1 0 0 100.0
5 20 0 1 0 50.0
6 7 539 565 14 48.8
6 8 137 115 3 54.3
6 9 10 6 0 62.5
6 10 2 5 0 28.6
6 11 0 1 0 -
6 12 2 5 0 28.6
6 13 6 9 1 40.6
6 14 12 14 0 46.2
6 15 1 1 0 50.0
6 210 1 0 0 100.0
7 8 418 393 9 51.5
7 9 92 78 2 54.1
7 10 5 6 0 45.5
7 11 6 6 0 50.0
7 12 4 11 1 28.1
7 13 11 18 0 37.9
7 14 205 188 5 52.1
7 15 8 12 0 40.0
7 16 0 1 0 -
7 17 1 0 0 100.0
7 21 6 4 1 59.1
7 28 1 1 0 50.0
7 182 0 0 1 50.0
7 189 0 1 0 -
7 195 0 1 0 -
7 210 3 3 0 50.0
7 211 0 1 0 -
7 224 0 1 0 -
7 231 1 0 0 100.0
7 238 3 1 0 75.0
7 252 0 1 0 -
7 259 1 0 0 100.0
7 273 1 0 0 100.0
8 9 80 83 1 49.1
8 10 8 11 1 42.5
8 11 1 2 0 33.3
8 13 4 5 0 44.4
8 14 8 8 0 50.0
8 15 12 10 0 54.5
8 16 1 3 0 25.0
8 22 1 0 0 100.0
8 219 1 0 0 100.0
9 10 9 7 0 56.3
9 11 0 1 0 -
9 14 3 0 0 100.0
9 15 2 3 0 40.0
9 16 1 2 1 37.5
9 177 0 1 0 -
9 211 0 1 0 -
9 212 0 1 0 -
10 11 0 1 0 -
10 14 0 1 0 -
10 211 1 0 0 100.0
11 12 0 3 0 -
11 13 1 1 0 50.0
12 13 3 3 1 50.0
12 14 18 25 0 41.9
13 14 10 22 0 31.2
13 15 4 4 0 50.0
13 16 1 0 0 100.0
14 15 12 12 1 50.0
14 16 4 3 0 57.1
14 20 1 0 0 100.0
14 21 7 14 0 33.3
15 16 5 2 0 71.4
16 17 0 1 0 -
21 28 2 0 0 100.0
167 181 0 1 0 -
169 204 1 0 0 100.0
170 178 1 0 0 100.0
173 187 1 0 0 100.0
174 189 0 1 0 -
175 182 1 0 0 100.0
175 209 1 0 0 100.0
176 183 1 0 0 100.0
180 188 1 0 0 100.0
180 208 0 1 0 -
181 203 1 0 0 100.0
181 208 0 1 0 -
181 209 1 1 0 50.0
181 210 1 0 0 100.0
182 189 2 2 0 50.0
182 195 2 0 0 100.0
182 196 2 2 0 50.0
182 197 1 0 0 100.0
182 210 5 2 0 71.4
182 217 3 0 0 100.0
183 190 0 1 0 -
183 203 2 0 0 100.0
183 210 1 0 0 100.0
183 211 2 1 0 66.7
184 205 1 1 0 50.0
187 195 1 0 0 100.0
187 207 1 0 0 100.0
188 202 0 1 0 -
188 209 2 0 0 100.0
189 195 1 0 0 100.0
189 196 0 2 0 -
189 197 2 0 0 100.0
189 202 1 1 0 50.0
189 203 1 2 0 33.3
189 210 5 1 0 83.3
189 216 0 1 0 -
189 217 10 4 0 71.4
189 218 1 0 0 100.0
189 224 2 2 0 50.0
190 191 1 0 0 100.0
190 197 1 0 0 100.0
190 203 2 0 0 100.0
190 209 1 0 0 100.0
190 210 1 1 0 50.0
190 211 1 2 0 33.3
190 212 0 1 0 -
190 218 0 1 0 -
191 198 1 0 0 100.0
191 211 0 1 0 -
191 212 2 0 0 100.0
191 219 0 1 0 -
193 194 0 1 0 -
195 210 1 0 0 100.0
195 211 1 0 0 100.0
196 197 1 0 0 100.0
196 203 2 4 0 33.3
196 209 0 1 0 -
196 210 6 4 0 60.0
196 216 0 1 0 -
196 217 4 2 0 66.7
196 224 2 0 0 100.0
196 231 1 1 0 50.0
197 198 0 1 0 -
197 203 1 1 0 50.0
197 210 2 1 1 62.5
197 211 1 2 0 33.3
197 212 1 0 0 100.0
198 210 1 1 0 50.0
198 212 1 0 0 100.0
198 219 1 0 0 100.0
198 220 2 0 0 100.0
200 201 0 1 0 -
200 207 1 0 0 100.0
201 209 1 0 0 100.0
202 203 1 1 0 50.0
202 207 1 0 0 100.0
202 209 1 0 0 100.0
202 210 3 1 0 75.0
203 204 0 1 0 -
203 209 0 1 0 -
203 210 7 2 0 77.8
203 211 1 0 0 100.0
203 216 1 0 0 100.0
203 217 5 1 0 83.3
203 224 7 4 0 63.6
203 231 21 3 0 87.5
203 238 2 0 0 100.0
204 209 1 0 0 100.0
204 210 4 0 0 100.0
204 211 1 2 0 33.3
204 217 1 0 0 100.0
204 219 0 1 0 -
205 212 0 1 0 -
205 226 1 0 0 100.0
205 233 2 0 0 100.0
207 208 0 1 0 -
209 210 4 4 0 50.0
209 211 1 1 0 50.0
209 216 0 2 0 -
209 217 1 0 0 100.0
210 211 4 5 0 44.4
210 212 1 0 0 100.0
210 217 2 6 0 25.0
210 224 1 0 1 75.0
210 231 12 4 1 73.5
210 238 17 7 0 70.8
211 212 2 0 0 100.0
211 213 1 0 0 100.0
211 217 0 1 0 -
211 238 0 1 0 -
212 233 1 0 1 75.0
212 240 2 0 0 100.0
215 217 0 1 0 -
216 217 1 1 0 50.0
217 219 2 0 0 100.0
217 224 3 3 0 50.0
217 231 0 1 0 -
217 238 18 4 0 81.8
217 245 2 1 0 33.3
218 219 0 1 0 -
219 226 0 1 0 -
219 240 1 0 0 100.0
219 247 0 1 0 -
224 231 6 6 0 50.0
224 237 0 1 0 -
224 238 3 1 1 70.0
224 245 3 1 0 75.0
224 252 2 0 0 100.0
225 238 1 0 0 100.0
226 233 2 0 0 100.0
226 240 0 0 1 50.0
231 238 12 13 0 48.0
231 252 1 0 0 100.0
231 259 1 1 0 50.0
231 294 1 0 0 100.0
231 994 0 1 0 -
233 238 1 0 0 100.0
233 240 1 0 0 100.0
238 239 0 1 0 -
238 245 4 5 0 44.4
238 252 1 0 0 100.0
245 252 2 1 0 66.7
245 259 1 0 0 100.0
245 266 1 0 0 100.0
252 280 2 0 0 100.0
252 980 1 0 0 100.0
259 266 1 0 0 100.0
259 994 1 0 0 100.0
259 1344 1 0 0 100.0
266 273 0 1 0 -Played: 4216
Won: 2144
Lost 2020
Drawn: 52
Win %: 51.5
Got the same 710-721-18 breakdown for 6-day breaks as Paul.
Although without knowing who had the shorter and longer breaks there seems to be no significant disadvantage. Get the figures to the League and the clubs and maybe some more rounds could be got in with shorter turnaround times for everybody. Might keep the draw wingeing down some.
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Although without knowing who had the shorter and longer breaks there seems to be no significant disadvantage. Get the figures to the League and the clubs and maybe some more rounds could be got in with shorter turnaround times for everybody. Might keep the draw wingeing down some.
Whenever I've compiled stats on this in the past, it's (the disadvantage) always appeared to be a fallacy. Since it involves only selected games you'd need to analyse ladder positions etc. to ensure no bias has been introduced. It's also possible teams modify their preparations with a shorter lead-in in order to mitigate the perceived disadvantage. But over a large sample, you'd still expect the handicap to be evident, if it existed. There's an argument to be made that a shorter break might actually work in favour of a team coming off a bad loss and eager to atone.
Harking back to when the night series was conducted on Tuesday evenings during the regular season and clubs managed to field most of the regulars gives cause for wonder, yet playing three games in eight days was never raised as a major issue...
They players are fitter. Football is all they do. They are on the ground less time. 5 days between matches would enable everyone to play each other twice from the middle of March to the first week of September. Pre-season cup could be eliminated to make for more room and some breaks later in the season - interchange increased. TV stations would probably go for it but I feel it will never happen.
There is the perception that 34 rounds is just too long. I suspect less teams or conferences to enable all playing each other twice is much more likely eventually.
Code:
Player Club(s) Career Gms Gls
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Fitzpatrick, Mike Ca 1975-1983 150 150
Coates, George Fi 1947-1954 128 128
Duffy, Roger WB 1952-1958 117 117
Collins, Jack L. Ge 1929-1938 112 112
Bawden, Bob Ri 1939-1945 107 107
Oborne, Rod Co,Ri 1972-1981 92 92
Bate, Matthew Me 2006-2011 90 90
O'Brien, Jim J. St 1957-1963 75 75
Keane, Gary Fi 1985-1988 55 55
O'Keefe, Maurice St,Ge 1977-1980 52 52
Jacobs, Graeme B. Ri 1959-1963 50 50Andrew Krakouer departed Richmond on 102/102 before his career was revived at Collingwood.
You're expecting Bate to retire without another game this year?
