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Today we finally got the official announcement that Tasmania has been awarded a 19th license for the AFL competition, and will enter the competition in 2028.
www.afl.com.au

Full statement: Tasmania awarded 19th AFL licence

Hear from Gillon McLachlan and Premier Jeremy Rockliff as Tasmania is awarded the 19th AFL licence
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

This thread is for all things speculative about the list build, whether by draft, trade, free agency or special concessions.

To kick us off, we have an article from Riley Beveridge on AFL.com.au about the potential avenues for a list build:

Early picks: “Speaking on Wednesday, the AFL's CEO Gillon McLachlan suggested that certain picks would be protected in the future to maintain the integrity of the draft order and ensure the struggling teams of the time aren't denied early picks.”

Signing stars: “One option floated for Tasmania has been to copy the assistance package delivered to North Melbourne last season, attaching picks to its finishing position that must be traded for established – and potentially contracted – talent. […] There is also a thought that Tasmania could get priority access to land established talent already from the state as part of a 'get them home' push.”

Mini draft: “Access to the 'mini draft' enabled the Giants to restock with four more top-10 picks, and an additional first-round selection, over multiple years. It could be the perfect boost for Tasmania in the future as well.”

Early Access: “For example, in a hypothetical situation where Tasmania were to come into the League next year, it would then be allowed to try and sign someone like Oakleigh Chargers midfielder Jagga Smith – who is not draft eligible until 2024 – this year, as he turned 17 in January.”

Zonal Recruiting: “Tasmania looks certain to gain access to local state-based talent as part of regional recruiting, pending a decision on North Melbourne's current Next Generation Academy zone, which would follow the model delivered to both Gold Coast and GWS.”

www.afl.com.au

Early picks, uncontracted guns: How Tassie could build its list

Riley Beveridge takes a look at how Tasmania could build its list
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

And an article from SEN today gives us the following:

Current AFL players who come out of contract and their age in late 2027
Patrick Cripps (Carlton) - 32
Dan McStay (Collingwood) - 32
Jordan De Goey (Collingwood) - 31
Peter Wright (Essendon) - 31
Zach Merrett (Essendon) - 32
Heath Chapman (Fremantle) - 25
Caleb Serong (Fremantle) - 26
Hayden Young (Fremantle) - 26
Luke Ryan (Fremantle) - 31
Noah Anderson (Gold Coast) - 26
Touk Miller (Gold Coast) - 31
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - 33
Tom Green (GWS) - 26
James Sicily (Hawthorn) - 32
Will Day (Hawthorn) - 26
Brodie Grundy (Melbourne) - 33
Kysaiah Pickett (Melbourne) - 26
Trent Rivers (Melbourne) - 26
Griffin Logue (North Melbourne) - 29
Dan Houston (Port Adelaide) - 30
Daniel Rioli (Richmond) - 30
Jayden Short (Richmond) - 31
Jack Steele (St Kilda) - 32
Rowan Marshall (St Kilda) - 32
Tom McCartin (Sydney) - 28
Bailey Dale (Western Bulldogs) - 31
Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs) - 33

Every current Tasmanian AFL player:
Chayce Jones (Adelaide)
Lachie Cowan (Carlton)
Jeremy Howe (Collingwood)
Brody Mihocek (Collingwood)
Jye Menzie (Essendon)
Andrew Phillips (Essendon)
Alex Pearce (Fremantle)
Jake Kolodjashnij (Geelong)
Lachie Weller (Gold Coast)
Ben Brown (Melbourne)
Aaron Hall (North Melbourne)
Tarryn Thomas (North Melbourne)
Hugh Greenwood (North Melbourne)
Tom McCallum (Port Adelaide)
Samuel Banks (Richmond)
Toby Nankervis (Richmond)
Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)
Rhyan Mansell (Richmond)
Seth Campbell (Richmond)
Jimmy Webster (St Kilda)
Robbie Fox (Sydney)
Cameron Owen (Sydney)
Ryan Gardner (Western Bulldogs)
Liam Jones (Western Bulldogs)

Every AFL player currently out of contract at the end of 2027 as we look ahead to Tasmania

The Tasmanian AFL team will enter the competition in 2028. Naturally, our eyes turn to the players who come out of contract at the end of 2027.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
 
Lore said:
Today we finally got the official announcement that Tasmania has been awarded a 19th license for the AFL competition, and will enter the competition in 2028.
www.afl.com.au

Full statement: Tasmania awarded 19th AFL licence

Hear from Gillon McLachlan and Premier Jeremy Rockliff as Tasmania is awarded the 19th AFL licence
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

This thread is for all things speculative about the list build, whether by draft, trade, free agency or special concessions.

To kick us off, we have an article from Riley Beveridge on AFL.com.au about the potential avenues for a list build:

Early picks: “Speaking on Wednesday, the AFL's CEO Gillon McLachlan suggested that certain picks would be protected in the future to maintain the integrity of the draft order and ensure the struggling teams of the time aren't denied early picks.”

Signing stars: “One option floated for Tasmania has been to copy the assistance package delivered to North Melbourne last season, attaching picks to its finishing position that must be traded for established – and potentially contracted – talent. […] There is also a thought that Tasmania could get priority access to land established talent already from the state as part of a 'get them home' push.”

Mini draft: “Access to the 'mini draft' enabled the Giants to restock with four more top-10 picks, and an additional first-round selection, over multiple years. It could be the perfect boost for Tasmania in the future as well.”

Early Access: “For example, in a hypothetical situation where Tasmania were to come into the League next year, it would then be allowed to try and sign someone like Oakleigh Chargers midfielder Jagga Smith – who is not draft eligible until 2024 – this year, as he turned 17 in January.”

Zonal Recruiting: “Tasmania looks certain to gain access to local state-based talent as part of regional recruiting, pending a decision on North Melbourne's current Next Generation Academy zone, which would follow the model delivered to both Gold Coast and GWS.”

www.afl.com.au

Early picks, uncontracted guns: How Tassie could build its list

Riley Beveridge takes a look at how Tasmania could build its list
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

And an article from SEN today gives us the following:

Current AFL players who come out of contract and their age in late 2027
Patrick Cripps (Carlton) - 32
Dan McStay (Collingwood) - 32
Jordan De Goey (Collingwood) - 31
Peter Wright (Essendon) - 31
Zach Merrett (Essendon) - 32
Heath Chapman (Fremantle) - 25
Caleb Serong (Fremantle) - 26
Hayden Young (Fremantle) - 26
Luke Ryan (Fremantle) - 31
Noah Anderson (Gold Coast) - 26
Touk Miller (Gold Coast) - 31
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - 33
Tom Green (GWS) - 26
James Sicily (Hawthorn) - 32
Will Day (Hawthorn) - 26
Brodie Grundy (Melbourne) - 33
Kysaiah Pickett (Melbourne) - 26
Trent Rivers (Melbourne) - 26
Griffin Logue (North Melbourne) - 29
Dan Houston (Port Adelaide) - 30
Daniel Rioli (Richmond) - 30
Jayden Short (Richmond) - 31
Jack Steele (St Kilda) - 32
Rowan Marshall (St Kilda) - 32
Tom McCartin (Sydney) - 28
Bailey Dale (Western Bulldogs) - 31
Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs) - 33

Every current Tasmanian AFL player:
Chayce Jones (Adelaide)
Lachie Cowan (Carlton)
Jeremy Howe (Collingwood)
Brody Mihocek (Collingwood)
Jye Menzie (Essendon)
Andrew Phillips (Essendon)
Alex Pearce (Fremantle)
Jake Kolodjashnij (Geelong)
Lachie Weller (Gold Coast)
Ben Brown (Melbourne)
Aaron Hall (North Melbourne)
Tarryn Thomas (North Melbourne)
Hugh Greenwood (North Melbourne)
Tom McCallum (Port Adelaide)
Samuel Banks (Richmond)
Toby Nankervis (Richmond)
Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)
Rhyan Mansell (Richmond)
Seth Campbell (Richmond)
Jimmy Webster (St Kilda)
Robbie Fox (Sydney)
Cameron Owen (Sydney)
Ryan Gardner (Western Bulldogs)
Liam Jones (Western Bulldogs)

Every AFL player currently out of contract at the end of 2027 as we look ahead to Tasmania

The Tasmanian AFL team will enter the competition in 2028. Naturally, our eyes turn to the players who come out of contract at the end of 2027.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
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Always surprises me that 5 on Richmond's list are from Tas.
 

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It's not going to happen but it would be cool if the AFL was mature enough to trade players are year in advance with Tassie. So in the 2026 trade period, you'd trade a player to Tassie but they remain with your club for 2027 before joining Tassie for 2028. It would spread the impact on the draft out over a longer period and clubs would be incentivised to make a trade earlier to get a kid in the door a year ahead (something they value).

I think it's been proven players will still give their all (look at Lobb for example) even if they plan on leaving in the following year so I dont see any difference here
 
Would like to see them focus more on building out solid mature age players from the best players in the state league in 2026 and 2027 so the young players feel like they are coming into an established club rather then a development squad like GWS and GC.

This should result in Tasmania entering the AFL as a better version of Essendon in 2016 (who were surprisingly competitive imo) rather then complete walk overs that the other expansion sides were.
 
Ambrosia said:
Would like to see them focus more on building out solid mature age players from the best players in the state league in 2026 and 2027 so the young players feel like they are coming into an established club rather then a development squad like GWS and GC.

This should result in Tasmania entering the AFL as a better version of Essendon in 2016 (who were surprisingly competitive imo) rather then complete walk overs that the other expansion sides were.
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They will obviously be given additional list spots, if they’re smart most of them will be state leaguers and mature bodies to help build the culture and avoid the beltings. Hopefully 10-12 established players from other AFL clubs will sign on too.
 
They have had the benefit of watching how GC set up and then GWS and both took very different approaches. They need to blend both and take the best bits.

Re talent, make tasmanian kids for the first 3 seasons exclusive to them and any tasmanian kids at other clubs can be approached with fair market draft value being provided to the clubs losing them.

Get as many tasmanians into the side as possible as it prevents the go home and will help with their culture
 
Dangerfields idea for them to be able to recruit one player from each club as a free agent ... contracted or not ... would be very different to previous list builds... especially if Tas has an over allowance on the cap. Id say if this came in or not .... any player that has been in the system 2 or 3 years will be in their prime recruitment range when Tas comes in.

The Tas Devils in the CTL is apparently going OK.. one would think thos ekids would all be thinking about the opportunities ahead of them.
 
I think they'll have a much better chance of attracting mature talent than GC or GWS. Yes they won't be playing in front of massive crowds in Tassie but they should sell out week in week out and provide a good atmosphere.

And the median house price in Hobart is just over half as much as Sydney. An AFL player on $400k is incredibly well off after a few years in Hobart (nice house fully paid off). Not so in the inner west of Sydney where you have high cost of living and get to play in games with VFL type atmosphere.

The signings should mainly be done like free agents. Give them say $4m extra for signing bonuses and every team gets compensation like normal free agents. They can sign whoever they like but maximum of 2 from any one team. They should be able to get 20+ players from that and be at least competitive.

Add in a few draft concessions but not many (maybe pick 1 in their first 2 drafts on top of the usual allocation. Treat them as wooden spooners for the draft the year before they join). Tassie academy players makes sense. And that should just about do it.
 
Footy Smarts said:
I think they'll have a much better chance of attracting mature talent than GC or GWS. Yes they won't be playing in front of massive crowds in Tassie but they should sell out week in week out and provide a good atmosphere.

And the median house price in Hobart is just over half as much as Sydney. An AFL player on $400k is incredibly well off after a few years in Hobart (nice house fully paid off). Not so in the inner west of Sydney where you have high cost of living and get to play in games with VFL type atmosphere.

The signings should mainly be done like free agents. Give them say $4m extra for signing bonuses and every team gets compensation like normal free agents. They can sign whoever they like but maximum of 2 from any one team. They should be able to get 20+ players from that and be at least competitive.

Add in a few draft concessions but not many (maybe pick 1 in their first 2 drafts on top of the usual allocation. Treat them as wooden spooners for the draft the year before they join). Tassie academy players makes sense. And that should just about do it.
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i agree those 25 plus year olds they might attract better than those teams

where i think they will likely struggle is keeping draftees from leaving after 2 years back to their home state, and attracting talented 21-23 year olds
 

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Adelaide had access to any player from SA, but they had to be OOC (IIRC). Greg Anderson and Tony McGuiness took it up, two quality players but both didn't make it to 1997, it was the access to the SANFL that was the body of the premiership team.

I think Tas should have a VFL team sooner, develop talent pathways and provide mature bodies through this team that can supplement a larger list by the time the AFL team joins.

AFL going towards zones excites me, I've always wanted this type of approach to clubs.

Apparently, there are more kids playing aussie rules in Queensland than in SA now, if you can believe that.
 
Turbocat said:
Have you got a list of what all the clubs have received?
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Brisbane - Warwick Capper
WC - State Team, 6 years worth of concessions
Crows - State Team
Freo - 1 Year of half the WAFL + some 16 year olds they could trade. A few priority picks diluted with other PP's.
Port - More than Freo, Less than the Crows
GC - 50 picks
GWS - 50 picks plus preselection + 2 gun kids to trade.
 
Caleb Serong surely to Tassie in 2028 👌
 
My thoughts are below. Obviously this would require a big $ investment as many players would be getting AFL contracts to play VFL early, and need AFL quality coaches and support staff.

2026: first year in the VFL
2027: second year in the VFL
2028: first year in the AFL, have many additional list spots with no reduction for at least two years.

End of 2025
  • Can sign delisted free agents.
  • AFL ban SSP picks. Tassie team has a competition with anyone who missed being picked up in the drafts in off season. Can offer five 4-year contracts (2yr VFL/2yr AFL) and five 3-year contracts (2yr VFL/2yr AFL).
  • Can form VFL side from above plus Tasmanian state league players and normal VFL recruitment.
The off season competition could even be televised like that rookie show to start building interest in the team.

End of 2026
  • Anyone who is a FA can sign with Tassie team (normal compo). Any non-FA Tasmanian out of contract can be signed (with clubs getting FA compo +1 band level). All play one year of VFL, all get $200k sign-on bonus from AFL.
  • The team gets priority access to any draft eligible Tasmanian. They get 3 year deals. Can also sign up Tasmanian kids not eligible until end of 2027 on 4yr deals.
  • The Tassie team can select 5 kids who missed being draft eligible by four or less months. Are given 3yr contracts.
  • AFL ban SSP picks. Tassie team has second competition with anyone who missed being picked up in the drafts in off season. Can offer five 3 or 4-year contracts (1yr VFL+ AFL). Contract length negotiated.
At this stage already have 20-30 players, albeit mostly mixture of state/fringe players and kids.

Mid-year 2027
  • First 3 picks in MSD
End of 2027
  • Normal access to free agents. Any Tasmanian can join. Can recruit up to 7 non-Tasmanian players not free agents or restricted free agents. Ages and contract status don’t matter. If contracted or not eligible as FA teams receive 1 band higher when calculating compo. All get $200k sign-on bonus from AFL outside salary cap.
  • Tasmania given pre-draft access to draftable players previously draft-eligible.
  • Given picks 1, 6, 11. Subsequent rounds treated as coming last.
End of 2028
  • Given bonus picks 6, 11, 22
That should give a good base while not impacting other teams too much.
 
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You'd hate your club to bottom out and be in need of a rebuild just as the compromised drafts kick in. It's going to take a bit of foresight from list managers to make sure they guard against it. Hopefully they learn from the clubs who did it well last time we went through a run of compromised drafts.
 
Ants said:
My thoughts are below. Obviously this would require a big $ investment as many players would be getting AFL contracts to play VFL early, and need AFL quality coaches and support staff.

2026: first year in the VFL
2027: second year in the VFL
2028: first year in the AFL, have many additional list spots with no reduction for at least two years.

End of 2025
  • Can sign delisted free agents.
  • AFL ban SSP picks. Tassie team has a competition with anyone who missed being picked up in the drafts in off season. Can offer five 4-year contracts (2yr VFL/2yr AFL) and five 3-year contracts (2yr VFL/2yr AFL).
  • Can form VFL side from above plus Tasmanian state league players and normal VFL recruitment.
The off season competition could even be televised like that rookie show to start building interest in the team.

End of 2026
  • Anyone who is a FA can sign with Tassie team (normal compo). Any non-FA Tasmanian out of contract can be signed (with clubs getting FA compo +1 band level). All play one year of VFL, all get $200k sign-on bonus from AFL.
  • The team gets priority access to any draft eligible Tasmanian. They get 3 year deals. Can also sign up Tasmanian kids not eligible until end of 2027 on 4yr deals.
  • The Tassie team can select 5 kids who missed being draft eligible by four or less months. Are given 3yr contracts.
  • AFL ban SSP picks. Tassie team has second competition with anyone who missed being picked up in the drafts in off season. Can offer five 3 or 4-year contracts (1yr VFL+ AFL). Contract length negotiated.
At this stage already have 20-30 players, albeit mostly mixture of state/fringe players and kids.

Mid-year 2027
  • First 3 picks in MSD
End of 2027
  • Normal access to free agents. Any Tasmanian can join. Can recruit up to 7 non-Tasmanian players not free agents or restricted free agents. Ages and contract status don’t matter. If contracted or not eligible as FA teams receive 1 band higher when calculating compo. All get $200k sign-on bonus from AFL outside salary cap.
  • Tasmania given pre-draft access to draftable players previously draft-eligible.
  • Given picks 1, 6, 11. Subsequent rounds treated as coming last.
End of 2028
  • Given bonus picks 6, 11, 22
That should give a good base while not impacting other teams too much.
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Only issue I can see with that is that I doubt any decent player is going to want to play VFL for a year so they will have trouble attracting FA’s initially
 
Alex Pearce to be first captain is my tip.

Would be 32ish by then with a couple of years to lead the way, a bit like Phil Davis at the Giants (though he was much younger).
 
Great8 said:
Only issue I can see with that is that I doubt any decent player is going to want to play VFL for a year so they will have trouble attracting FA’s initially
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Maybe. If they're being paid normally, I'm not sure if it would be a huge turn off. Especially for mid-level FA's who would presumably get a good pay day, which would help bolster the side's short-term performance.
Mostyn said:
Personally, I like the idea of being able to select players outside of a club's top 25.

Let them take up to two players from top 8 sides, and one from those outside the finals.
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AFLPA will never sign off on it.
 
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