Roast The Brownlow has no credibility left

[Espio]

Of course it is compromised. It is a secondary (probably lower) role for the umps to do the voting.
Imagine you are at work and you are flat out with your job task from start to finish. Then at the end of the day someone asks you which of your 46 coworkers performed best that day!
Some days you might get it right, some days you might play favourites and some days you might throw a dart.
The Brownlow.


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[Shane Heard]

The Brownlow Medal is an overrated award. It is based purely on subjective criteria, handed out by those who are paid to officiate.

Any award that is given based on subjectivity is overrated IMO, but maybe we should pay less attention to the Brownlow as compared with other awards, such as the Coaches Award. The coaches are at the coalface and know exactly which players on their side have earned their team a win or on the other side have cost them victory.

Trouble is that the coaches award doesn’t have a national telecast and 1000
Guests in the room.

The Brownlow is the most famous award in the league ..but it is the one ignored by most serious footy followers..unless one of your own win it of course.

 

[blue harvest]

The fact that this thread exists is what makes the Brownlow so great.
Suck it up princesses. It's the most prestigious individual award, always has been and always will be.

 

[Dazzler9]

Individual awards in team sports are poxy anyway.

 

[Shane Heard]

The fact that this thread exists is what makes the Brownlow so great.
Suck it up princesses. It's the most prestigious individual award, always has been and always will be.

I doubt Sam Mitchell agrees with that statement..

 

[Shane Heard]

Individual awards in team sports are poxy anyway.

Yeah …club best and fairest awards at all levels of competition should just be eliminated..what’s the point

 

[Simon_Says]

Who was the last player to won a Brownlow who didn't make the All Australian team?

I believe that's Priddis

 

[Simon_Says]

Before that, Woewodin

Don't forget Sam Mitchell*

 

[Shane Heard]

Don't forget Sam Mitchell*

And Cotchy..

 

[offtherails9]

Coaches MVP clearly the best award to win. The umpires barely know the rules of the game let alone who was best on..

 

[blue harvest]

I doubt Sam Mitchell agrees with that statement..

He CGAF. He has 4 flags.

 

[Dazzler9]

Yeah …club best and fairest awards at all levels of competition should just be eliminated..what’s the point

Not sure I would've gone that far, but Ok.

 

[Shane Heard]

He CGAF. He has 4 flags.

Does that stand for ..can go and flatulence?

 

[Shane Heard]

Not sure I would've gone that far, but Ok.

I rest my case your Worship.

 

[Dazzler9]

I rest my case your Worship.

 

[Hoops]

Oh please, if you're not going back to at least Woewoedin you need to brush up on your Brownlow rants.

Brad Hardie or GTFO

 

[dlanod]

Brad Hardie or GTFO

s**t, touche - that's well before my time.

 

[Madas]

Midfielders medal - the fact that players like Jacob Weitering, Darcy Moore, Lever and May hardly get a vote is ridiculous.

Jeremy Cameron

The guy is amazing at Football

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Apparently, this was the first time in years that umpires were denied a look at the stats before giving their votes.

It's been well-documented over the past 20 years that umpires were able to ask for the stats after the game to help formulate their 3-2-1... I've heard umpires confirm this in interviews. Maybe they didn't use the stats for every game; they just went with their obvious consensus picks for BOG. But occasionally, when they came off the ground and looked at each other, shrugged, and admitted they had NFI, then they would use the stats to help them.

This is why the Brownlow has become a more predictable award over the past 25 years with all the superstars and pre-count favourites hogging all the votes.

In the old days, the Brownlow always used to produce shock upsets and dodgy winners. Many times in the past, the champions of the game and red hot favourites polled poorly. I'm talking zero votes... Or only 7 votes when everyone thought they'd win with 23 votes.

It was generally surmised they were "back-chatters" or they were tough, dirty players, rather than the stereotypical flashy, "eyes only for the ball" golden boys who always won it.




The Brownlow is FANTASTIC for one reason: The melts... This is the one aspect of the Brownlow which never changes.

Bulldogs fans and Pies fans are seething & sooking because their golden boys didn't win... "We wuz robbed!" they cried. Just like Pies fans in 2010 when Judd beat Swan... Or the Cats fans in 2008 when Cooney beat Gazza... or the Crows fans in 2001 when Akermanis beat McLeod... or the Blues fans in 2000 when Woewodin beat Koutoufides.

The entire Richmond football club MELTED like crazy in 1973 when red-hot favourite, Kevin Bartlett didn't win and the medal went to rank outsider, Keith Greig who wasn't even invited. He was sitting at home watching on television, when they called him halfway through and said "Get your arse down here!"




In my opinion, it's the unpredictabliity which keeps the Brownlow interesting. It's like the Melbourne Cup of football awards. Who knows who will win it? The Brownlow and the Cup are both more predictable than they once were, but there is still the element of doubt and the occasional upset.

Almost every year, we see different players winning the Brownlow, MVP and AFLCA awards. I think that's a good thing. Let's share the love around. It would be awfully boring if the one "correct" player won all the awards every year. It's all just opinion anyway. The way people carry on about this, you'd think there was some factual basis for saying "Bont or Daicos should've got 3 votes in that game". Pig's arse.

Woewodin beat Scott West, not Kouta, in 2000. Dogs fans ropeable, not Blues fans.

For goodness sake, get it right son!

 

[Engimal v3]

The other thing is that all 207 home & away games are allocated the same 3,2,1 votes

Let's face it... everyone in the media and all the fans tend to hype up the superstars and the big games between the best clubs

The Brownlow doesn't make that distinction. All games are equal.


A "match of the season" game on Friday night between the top 2 teams will be watched by millions of people. One of the superstars of the competition plays an incredible game and drags his team over the line in a close-fought thriller.

People talk about him for days... Articles are written... Highlights packages are created. People asking "Is he the GOAT?"

He gets 3 Brownlow votes.


The next day, Hawthorn plays Gold Coast at 1pm in Launceston in front of a crowd of 12,000 with maybe 100,000 Foxtel & Kayo subscribers watching. There are no real standout players. A bunch of players end up with 25 possessions. Nobody scores more than 2 goals. Umpires decide to give their votes to the consistent blue-collar on-baller for the Suns who was at the bottom of every pack.

Not one word was said about him. Nothing. Nobody cares. He wasn't even listed among the "best players" or the coaches votes, even though he played just as well as 6 or 7 other guys.

He also scores 3 Brownlow votes.

Why would the number of people watching have any bearing on either player's performance?

 

[My Tilly]

to the consistent blue-collar on-baller for the Suns who was at the bottom of every pack.

Anderson's a bit more than that. He is in the same category as Gulden. Both will be the next big things of the AFL.

 

[Roby]

Problem is some coaches take it more seriously than others....

Same with the umpires

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Explain how Rowan Marshall

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Rowan Marshall

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

had 3 votes total. Was clearly one of the most dominant players in the league this season.

 

[Shane Heard]

Woewodin beat Scott West, not Kouta, in 2000. Dogs fans ropeable, not Blues fans.

For goodness sake, get it right son!

The current RFC coach was robbed of a Brownlow in 2000.
And I won’t even mention Joe Misiti..

 

[Shane Heard]

Explain how Rowan Marshall had 3 votes total. Was clearly one of the most dominant players in the league this season.

Yep…another example of the ridiculousness where umpires are solely focused on midfielders because they are absolute dimwits.