To be fair, Ramsey and wilshere have both been off the pace this year. Most probably due to injury so I couldn't even tell you who is to start if both were fit.
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On Ozil's position, Wenger said yesterday:
“I see him behind the striker or on the flank, where he doesn’t like to play,” Wenger said. “I prefer him central. In our team it’s very flexible anyway. When you play on the flank, you can move inside. We usually have one player who is more a winger and another more midfield.”
At the moment, Santi is a lock central. He's in career best form.
“I see him behind the striker or on the flank, where he doesn’t like to play,” Wenger said. “I prefer him central. In our team it’s very flexible anyway. When you play on the flank, you can move inside. We usually have one player who is more a winger and another more midfield.”
At the moment, Santi is a lock central. He's in career best form.
Okay so
Theo Ramsey Wilshere ????
So that leaves someone out of position on the left. Santi, or Ozil.
Wilshere is a bench player for me.
Coq should keep his spot on form alone. He has been solid these past couple of months. He fits in-between those lines so well. He can put on a hard tackle when necessary.
The midfield 4 could be Ox Santi Ozil Alexis.
I dont see Walcott or Wilshere near starting.
I dont see Walcott or Wilshere near starting.
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I would say Wenger's first choice is ...
Do not forget Santi is in a purple patch and had been poor up until December.
Coquelin
Sanchez - Ramsey - Wilshere - Ozil
Giroud
Sanchez - Ramsey - Wilshere - Ozil
Giroud
Do not forget Santi is in a purple patch and had been poor up until December.
Ozil on the left is a ******* waste.
Forgot about Alexis
Not sure about Ozil and Santi tbh.
In the same line up you mean?
Too many of our blokes are injured at the same time anyway. The best eleven discussion is somewhat of a mirage.
I meant in the centre, but the same lineup applies too.
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That's why we need to cut our losses and sell him while he still is worth 30mil+.
He's one of the best 10s in the world.
Ozil may not have the EPL form but he certainly has more career runs on the board.
Wilshere has shown talent in patches but nothing to say he should be first 11 when fit.
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But Wenger won't play him there and he's almost counter-productive anywhere else.
If Ozil is not played centrally I think he will force a transfer back to Spain or Germany.
We have too many 10s in our squad, but on stature and overall career, Ozil is clearly the best.
Ramsey and Wilshere also wanting to play there this season has convoluted things.
Ramsey and Wilshere also wanting to play there this season has convoluted things.
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What was even the point of Campbell then, honestly
These formations leave Ramsey on the bench which, even taking all possible midfield combinations into account, just wouldn't happen barring injury (heh)
If Santi maintains a form line similar to the past couple of months there's no way he could/should be dropped. On paper this looks a good formation but in reality Ozil on the left flank would be an issue.
Not taking a dig at any proposed formations but just highlighting the selection headache the club faces - a headache which would be a positive but for the fact we have a manager who tends to, when it comes to midfield selection, a) not address defensive issues and stability and b) pick his pet favourite Wilshere regardless of form and team chemistry
Imo:
Coquelin -- Ramsey
Walcott/Ox - Ozil/Santi - Sanchez
Giroud
Is the best and most personnel-based formation we can choose. And that's with Arteta/Flamini coming on to shore things up, not Wilshere.Walcott/Ox - Ozil/Santi - Sanchez
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Any line up without Ramsey is just madness. The guy is going to be world class, just needs to iron the balance between attack and defence and he's set. He had a dip in form for a while and now it's obvious he's returning back to his best. Class first half vs City before he ran out of steam.
It's amazing how short term some of you lot are. At the moment, we've all got hard ons for Santi and rightly so, but he's 30 years old and he was dreadful at the start of the season, or is that somehow forgotten? So many people look at purple patches and just assume the player will stay at that level for every game for the rest of their careers. Football doesn't work like that - Santi will go through another rough patch just like every other footballer and when he does, he'll get put on the bench and Mesut will step into his place.
I don't understand the worry about "when we have all our midfielders fit" - as has been said - they're barely always fit at the same time, we are a BIG club, so yeah, good players are going to have to be on the bench at times, further, we generally play 60 games a season in all competitions, so there's plenty of games for everyone.
It's amazing how short term some of you lot are. At the moment, we've all got hard ons for Santi and rightly so, but he's 30 years old and he was dreadful at the start of the season, or is that somehow forgotten? So many people look at purple patches and just assume the player will stay at that level for every game for the rest of their careers. Football doesn't work like that - Santi will go through another rough patch just like every other footballer and when he does, he'll get put on the bench and Mesut will step into his place.
I don't understand the worry about "when we have all our midfielders fit" - as has been said - they're barely always fit at the same time, we are a BIG club, so yeah, good players are going to have to be on the bench at times, further, we generally play 60 games a season in all competitions, so there's plenty of games for everyone.
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