I know the feeling. Your arms are all wobbly, one arm is grossly weaker than the other.When I started, I was chest pressing 12.5kg dumbbells with horrible technique.
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I know the feeling. Your arms are all wobbly, one arm is grossly weaker than the other.When I started, I was chest pressing 12.5kg dumbbells with horrible technique.
When I started, I was chest pressing 12.5kg dumbbells with horrible technique.
Yeah - wanking arm was much strongerI know the feeling. Your arms are all wobbly, one arm is grossly weaker than the other.
And 20-odd kilos.The only thing that's changed is your technique is better!
Actually I use my left hand. Keeps the right hand on the keyboard/Mouse.Yeah - wanking arm was much stronger
Yes, but you missed my point. The whole thing is that people taking it, run flat when the body gets used to the dosage, and you can no longer increase the dosage. If I was going to use it, like I said, I'd use it once a cycle, when I wanted to max the smash out my sets.
s**t I had my first gym session today how was my form?I saw probably the skinniest guy I've ever seen anywhere in the world, at the gym today. Good on him for getting in there.
Not bad - a little shaky, but good effort first ups**t I had my first gym session today how was my form?
Well I was following the Story on AFL and Caffeine, and medical information suggested that the benefits of caffeine are reduced as the body gets used to it. Hence why Ben Cousins had that problem. They start dosing small and go heavier each time. I've also spoken to a number of people who hit the flats after a month or two on pre-workout stuff. Its like anything, if you use something to get a high, you reach a plateau. You either need to come back down, or increase the dosage. The sensible thing to do is to use pre workouts periodically, so you're not on a higher level plateau.I don't see it any different to having a strong coffee before training except I get much better pumps from the pre workouts.... They were a lot more effective when DMAA was still legal
I still don't understand the hype around pre workout drinks. I know a few guys that are on this stuff, and from what I know its just loaded with a shitload of caffeine. From what I understand Caffeine provides minimal benefit for lifting sessions, but more beneficial for endurance type work. Furthermore your body adapts to the levels of caffeine, and each workout requires more caffeine, until the point you can't take anymore in.
I've seen guys taking this gear, fall flat after a month. I could understand if you intended to take it once a cycle to push yourself to the limit on a blasting session, but not regularly. I think Ben Cousins fell victim to this when he was playing, he ended up overloading on caffeine.
Like I said, I've spoken to a number of people who all experience flat periods after a month or two of pre workout. I'm quite content with taking things nice and steady. I've got all the time in the worldI used to be just as sceptical re: pre-workout stuff, until I tried this stuff:
Have genuinely been lifting heavier and feeling so much more motivated and focussed during workouts since using it. 160mg of caffiene per serving, according to the nutritional information. I previously dismissed pre-workout supps as unnecessary sugary crap, but now I believe.
Like I said, I've spoken to a number of people who all experience flat periods after a month or two of pre workout. I'm quite content with taking things nice and steady. I've got all the time in the world
Yeah, I kinda got to a point a few weeks ago where I realized, I'm not getting any younger, and trying to lift heavier and heavier is not the smartest idea. I've capped my lower body lifts, and just focusing on being fit and healthy.Eh, see how I go I suppose. Have only been using it for like a month.
Might be in some people's interests to use this sort of stuff in cycles if they find it gets to a point where it doesn't work for them. Everyone's different though.
Yeah, I kinda got to a point a few weeks ago where I realized, I'm not getting any younger, and trying to lift heavier and heavier is not the smartest idea. I've capped my lower body lifts, and just focusing on being fit and healthy.
Yes, but you missed my point. The whole thing is that people taking it, run flat when the body gets used to the dosage, and you can no longer increase the dosage. If I was going to use it, like I said, I'd use it once a cycle, when I wanted to max the smash out my sets.
Lower back is really aching today after squats, with sharp pain if I move too quickly.
Most people say sit "back" into a squat, don't let your knees go past your toes etc. The fear is that squats will damage the knees. Well, my knees are really tough. When I put my weight there, I have no issues. When I sit back into "conventional" technique, my back usually has problems. I came across this:
http://www.biomechfit.com/2012/02/09/3-squatting-myths-that-refuse-to-die
I'm pretty convinced that knees behind toes is bullshit. Especially if you have longish femurs! Unless I'm lifting a huge amount, I'd rather put pressure on my knees than back/hips.
Well I was following the Story on AFL and Caffeine, and medical information suggested that the benefits of caffeine are reduced as the body gets used to it. Hence why Ben Cousins had that problem. They start dosing small and go heavier each time. I've also spoken to a number of people who hit the flats after a month or two on pre-workout stuff. Its like anything, if you use something to get a high, you reach a plateau. You either need to come back down, or increase the dosage. The sensible thing to do is to use pre workouts periodically, so you're not on a higher level plateau.
As great as it sounds, if you had everything you ever wanted, all the money in the world, all the women, everything. Where can you go from there? Building towards something is always the key.
Again I've been misread!!! If you want to get benefit from pre workouts, you can't have them every day. Think about doing your max workout every session. Working 100%, sooner or later your body is going to either fail, or its going to reach a plateau and you're going to fail to make progress. Life in general follows a pattern of peaks and troughs. I'd rather sit in a trough, knowing there's somewhere to go, than to sit at a plateaued peak, with nowhere to go. Any surprises that so many celebrities suffer drug problems?So what about stim free pre workouts? Do you believe they have no purpose either?
I agree that you can (and will) achieve results without pre workouts but IMO a lot of them are still worth their money. Dismissing them all is like saying that you don't need protein powder. Yes, you can still get your requirements from food sources but supplementing still has its place.
I'm not a sports scientist, so I'm not really sure. I think its important to build to something though. Start out with none, and build up dosage through your program, then go back to none.Does the body adapt to beta analine, argnine, citruline malate and all the other stuff in pre workouts (honest question)?
I'm not saying to have it everyday but many of the ingredients in a good pre-workout aren't there simply to give you energy.
Cheers for the help mate. At the moment time is a little bit of an issue, I work full time and have 2 young kids so it's usually 7:30 or 8pm by the time I can get started. With the stuff I have at home I've just got a bench and some dumbells squashed in garage so space is also a bit of an issue, so apart from bench press I'm using dumbells for everything else, I've got a chin up bar so before I got back into weights I was doing basically full body weight routines but I found I wasn't really getting the results I was after so I got back into the weights, which worked well for me in the past. I think I might pull it back to 3 sets per exercise, 3 times a week and throw in some push ups, chins etc at the end and see how it goes.