Libba for mine. None of our other mids besides Boyd has the brute inside contested ball winning ability that Libba has, and Libba tops it off with impeccable disposal by hand and a ferocious attack on the man when he doesnt win the ball.
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Libba for mine. None of our other mids besides Boyd has the brute inside contested ball winning ability that Libba has, and Libba tops it off with impeccable disposal by hand and a ferocious attack on the man when he doesnt win the ball.
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Agreed.... Not sure why I left him out, just thinking about major gaps that we don't have much depth in. We do have a lot of mids with ball getting ability but not many with Libba's skill level in that regard and tackling skills.
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I don't think it's a matter of liking or not liking him personally. If his view is similar to mine, then he'll see Minson as a player of limited ability, especially around the ground. He's been valuable for his physical presence in the close quarter and contested phases of the game while we've had many young players to look after. As the team matures and more focus goes on to moving the ball around he'll become a liability. He may be wrong about Campbell taking over this year but would be close to mark if he said next year imo.
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I understand what is being said by Mooney going forward all afl rucks like Minson that lack the ability to be a threat in front of the goals and to make impact around the ground are going to be over taken by guys who can and simply won't be picked up.
Yeah, I just thought it might be a bit much to ask Campbell to be ready this year by round one
which is what the team was titled as
not sure how Roughead goes up forward, but it'll be interesting to see if it is tried & against which side
No worries. TBH I've really enjoyed coming on here. Some people I agree with, some people I don't, but we all have a common interest, which makes it worthwhile.Just wanted to say thanks for your contributions on here P. You and fronkalicious have great insight into the game and into the culture of the game. kudos mate.
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Yes I wouldn't discount it (Campbell no 1 ruck) completely but tends to the optimistic. Roughie I agree with him but I think we'd have to recruit a good ready made KPD this year for it to happen. If the Lonergan thing had happened, it would be interesting to see where Roughie ended up this year.
paulveed
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For goodness sake fellas. Before an injury troubled season last year, Big Will was THE All Australian ruckman, as
judged by the industry. That hardly makes him the semi redundant hack he is being portrayed as here. What it means
is, he was better than every other ruckman in the league in 2013.
Sure his game has limitations, but sh1te so does every other single man or boy playing the game. Not the same limitations,
but they ALL have some just the same.
Of recent times the club has seemed to have had a habit of crucifying it's own ruckmen, by trying to play week in and
week out with just one. Clearly enough, we don't have the other cattle required to make that work. Whether it is Will,
TC or anyone else in the role of first ruck, they need suitably skilled support, not just throwing anyone over 190cm into
the space when Will needs a break.
If Will's body holds up, and he is given proper support this season, I think he is capable of again being a dominant force
for us, and maybe even for a couple more seasons.
I hope so anyway.
But it worries me how readily our own supporters seem to want to deride and pension off our own.
It's not a good look.
judged by the industry. That hardly makes him the semi redundant hack he is being portrayed as here. What it means
is, he was better than every other ruckman in the league in 2013.
Sure his game has limitations, but sh1te so does every other single man or boy playing the game. Not the same limitations,
but they ALL have some just the same.
Of recent times the club has seemed to have had a habit of crucifying it's own ruckmen, by trying to play week in and
week out with just one. Clearly enough, we don't have the other cattle required to make that work. Whether it is Will,
TC or anyone else in the role of first ruck, they need suitably skilled support, not just throwing anyone over 190cm into
the space when Will needs a break.
If Will's body holds up, and he is given proper support this season, I think he is capable of again being a dominant force
for us, and maybe even for a couple more seasons.
I hope so anyway.
But it worries me how readily our own supporters seem to want to deride and pension off our own.
It's not a good look.
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Yeah disappointing effort from Connolly. Really lacked any genuine thought about the footy and more just looking for the headline. Shame indeed.
I think our list is very even but I think Morris is the one player who we can't replace at the moment and Bobby would be missed especially now as he's the skipper.
One caveat... The Bont!!!
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Great post and you're right, however it just emphasises what a pack of humpties the media are.I can see what he's saying. From an outside point of view the club needs to be seen as having picked up a player who justifies his salary. Whether we like it or not, he will be judged from game 1 to game infinity. He can't avoid that. I agree with everyone that his input to the team's success isn't vital in the first 2 years and any impact he does have is a bonus, however have no doubt that the media will get stuck into him the moment he missteps. That cannot be avoided, but I'm still glad he's come
We're going to get it all year on Tom.
Rohan's had a bee in his Bonet ever since Crameri upt and left and went to a s**t club like ours.Rohan should know his role in the media is to be Robbo's right hand man in Cult Hird.
Like it or not Will being in the side f**** up our structure as he hasn't got another string to his bow.
Posters claiming that Minson under performed because he was the lone wolf are forgetting that's how he became AA in the first place.
Absolutely. It's his ability to ruck all day that is his strength. His ability to go the same at the start as at the end is his point of difference. He is the kind of player who needs to be in the game. Also none of the others have his competitiveness yet, but they will over time. All the others are still young.
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Agreed - in his AA year he was often beaten or only holding his own in the first half of games, but he wore down his opponent with his strength and most often was well on top come the last quarter. Getting first use of the ball at late stages of games is crucial.
I for one think he will be back to his best this year and can still be our no 1 ruck for the next 3 or 4 years
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Minho has trimmed down a fair bit if reports are to be believed . He laboured badly last year and I hope he comes good. I was in favour of trading him for a while but now I feel that would've been a mistake.
I have doubts on Campbell more now than ever before.
I have doubts on Campbell more now than ever before.
paulveed
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Sorry PS, disagree on both points in the first sentence, but as is often repeated, this is an opinion based forum.
On your second sentence, does the term 'sustainable' ring any bells ? Any athlete can do a PB on occasions, or even produce a brief run of them.
But doing so continuously is not something any can do. Same situation here. Just because Will has rucked solo successfully before, does not mean he, or anyone else for that matter, could or should be expected to be able to maintain that long term.
Look I am not saying Big Will is the greatest thing since sliced bread or anything, but he sure as hell is clearly the best we've got right now, and until
someone else on our list is ready to push him out by the comparative standard of their work, I just think we need to look after him.
The other thing we need is to not drop off the pace so drastically as we have recently, when he does need a break.
I have said previously I feel the reason he has not been especially effective when resting forward is not a total lack of talent, merely that when he has gone forward for his break, he simply has been already totally knackered.
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In his defense, it's probably because he's the type stupid enough to cross the road without looking, touch exposed wiring or play on the train tracks.
We can't be expected to have won a flag by the time the odds catch up with him, you just can't plan for that.
What I dont get with journalism in footy, is that journalists (with the exception of people like Gerard Whateley) tend to be as reactive and thoughtless as the random punter on the street. Strong opinions. Little evidence. Emotional....
It is a pissweak culture and needs to be challenged by some professional values. The aim isn't to be controversial, it is to be a bloody professional source of information and evidence based opinion. If I acted like that in my job in public commentary I'd get the sack.
It is a pissweak culture and needs to be challenged by some professional values. The aim isn't to be controversial, it is to be a bloody professional source of information and evidence based opinion. If I acted like that in my job in public commentary I'd get the sack.
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Journo, that nuffie would say every year Everitt was going to Carlton until he went to Sydney
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No-one can underestimate Greg D's stupidity, it is impossible.
However, it is going to be hard to win a premiership, we simply can't screw up our drafting. Sydney, Hawks, GCS and GWS look threatening for the next 10 years. After that well who knows, and I guess that underlines Greg D's idiocy, his only defense being that if we haven't looked like it for 60 years, well its a low risk prediction. Cheap shot though.
Once we do rise up to around top 4, watch for the AFL change the FA rules to handicap top clubs, can see it coming a mile away. The whole system is becoming like the EPL though which, as a Bulldogs supporter, is very frustrating..
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