Will ASADA/WADA appeal? - UPDATE: ASADA will not appeal - WADA has appealed

[BlueWorld]

not guilty

Players, not club. And you turn a blind eye to the players health being put at risk, as long as they can continue playing.

 

[BlueWorld]

I find it hard to believe the EFC was leaking to Caro...leaking on Caro...well..

That was the AFL.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

I think ASADA should have called the players to give testimony at the tribunal. They knew exactly what they took.

Dank said they knew. And among all the bullshit thrown about on this, one thing remains a fact: over two years and not one of the 34 players has ever made a move to find out what they were given. Hird goes to court, Essendon goes to court, even Dank has a crack at it. But the players and the AFLPA do exactly nothing over two and a bit years to find out what they were given. They must have laughed their heads off when told they were going to be given health checks. They couldn't give a s**t. But, oh, they were worried shitless about being found guilty... we heard all about that. Doesn't add up, does it?

= they knew what they were given.

 

[BlueWorld]

Keep up would you. The judge called them dishonest. Their testimony wasn't worth a pinch of s**t.

Not when they couldn't be present at the tribunal.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Players, not club. And you turn a blind eye to the players health being put at risk, as long as they can continue playing.

Why not, the players don't care. They cared about being found guilty. That's all.

 

[yeahmate]

Sounds to me like an appeal is on the cards, fun times.

 

[Davo63]

“Having considered all the evidence relating to the credibility and reliability of Mr Alavi, Mr Charter and Mr Dank … the Tribunal finds that the credibility of each of these principal participants is at a low ebb and each man in acting as he did in his own way and for his own motive saw a golden opportunity to “feather his own nest.” Their lack of credibility is reflected when their reliability is called into question and the Tribunal is satisfied that on a number of important issues their evidence on those issues was not only unreliable but also … dishonest.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...-thymosin-beta-4/story-e6frf3e3-1227288292492

Why would anyone believe him? He has zero credibility.

Funny how people wang it both ways. Charter is a liar when he says ASADA manipulated his evidence, but if he could tell s story that had TB4 getting to Essendon, those same people would hail him as gospel.

 

[BRWB]

That was the AFL.

Ok I'll take you word for it, pretty s**t system that compromises player confidentiality by forcing ASADA to give a leaking code key information, assuming ASADA were obligated to provide info to the AFL?

 

[BlueWorld]

Why does he need to do that in the media? Pathetic effort really, as the head of an organisation.

Pretty clear he was hoping to scare the players into cutting deals like the Cronulla boys so he could claim it as a win. Good thing our players are stronger than that.


Yet still couldn't get enough on us and were embarrassed at the tribunal.


Probably because ASADA waited until the last minute to confirm their appearances and get them to sign affidavits. Then when they weren't forthcoming they wasted taxpayer money trying to get the courts to do their job for them, and failed.

I have to say, seeing grumpypants Ben McDevitt today was the icing on what has been a delicious ASADA cake.

Wait for the appeal. Might bring you back to earth.

 

[Davo63]

Funny how people wang it both ways. Charter is a liar when he says ASADA manipulated his evidence, but if he could tell s story that had TB4 getting to Essendon, those same people would hail him as gospel.

Want not wang!

 

[Zerg]

Not when they couldn't be present at the tribunal.

OMG. how thick are you mate?

The panel called them dishonest and you think by them appearing they would consider their evidence relevant?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Not when they couldn't be present at the tribunal.

Irrelevant, judge called them dishonest. Judge also questioned McDevitt and said his comments were contentious and lacked proper evidentiary basis.
Appeal's got * all hope...doubt they will even bother appealing to save further embarrassment.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Well, there you go. Show's over folks. I've said all along an appeal is unlikely but now I'd be staggered.

ASADA went all in and I doubt wada want to sell the farm to rescue them.

Stick a fork in it and bring on the footy.

Why the confidence?

 

[Jobe Watson]

Wait for the appeal. Might bring you back to earth.

Last week you were telling me to wait for the tribunal decision.

What happened there?

 

[Zerg]

Wait for the appeal. Might bring you back to earth.

Hope you are not holding your breath.

Little aside for you. The ex Judge has never in his whole career ever had a successful challenge to his findings...

 

[BlueWorld]

thats what ASADA are wondering. Makes sustaining a charge fairly difficult.

Anyway, Im not going to excuse the club for allowing this, but lack of records alone is not proof of doping

No but it suggests they had something to hide.

 

[BlueWorld]

Funny how people wang it both ways. Charter is a liar when he says ASADA manipulated his evidence, but if he could tell s story that had TB4 getting to Essendon, those same people would hail him as gospel.

Yet which club used his services?

 

[romeoh]

OMG. how thick are you mate?

The panel called them dishonest and you think by them appearing they would consider their evidence relevant?

An appearance under oath in a court, where probing questions can be asked about things that happened, is more likely to result in a more thorough understanding of what happened. (do they go under oath at a tribunal?)

 

[Moquo]

So it could be up to three weeks before we know if ASADA appeal the decision?

 

[bing181]

What part of not guilty of charges are you struggling with?

This part:

The Tribunal found as a fact that Dank and Charters intended to give the players TB4 and that it was a banned drug.

(as per Whately from the Written Decision ... though god knows how he got it ...)

 

[Admiral Byng]

... but lack of records alone is not proof of doping

But it can be used as a defence.

 

[Lach72]

This part:

The Tribunal found as a fact that Dank and Charters intended to give the players TB4 and that it was a banned drug.

(as per Whately from the Written Decision ... though god knows how he got it ...)

Do we have some vision of Whately here?

 

[Mahlepi]

Yet which club used his services?

Didn't a coach consult him in his younger days

 

[romeoh]

So it could be up to three weeks before we know if ASADA appeal the decision?

21 days -one wonders why they would need so much time to reconsider their position
The time frames is another area that needs addressing for future scenarios. Just ridiculous how long everything takes in golden age of technology.

 

[blue harvest]

thats what ASADA are wondering. Makes sustaining a charge fairly difficult.

Anyway, Im not going to excuse the club for allowing this, but lack of records alone is not proof of doping

Not alone, but combined with all the other evidence it is a pretty damning.