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Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

I'd like to know what people think the gap between Zaharakis' season from ANZAC 2012 to now and Mark Murphy in 2010 is. Using Murphy as the guide Zaharakis remains well on track to become that "A grade / elite" midfield type (if he isn't already there).

He just seems to have a brilliant attitude. Every time you think there is a deficiency, be it attack on the ball or two way running Zaka seems to address it in the next game he plays.

Other than rediscovering his range when kicking for goal there is very little else that Zaharakis could be doing in his role as primarily an outside midfielder.
 

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Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

I'd like to know what people think the gap between Zaharakis' season from ANZAC 2012 to now and Mark Murphy in 2010 is. Using Murphy as the guide Zaharakis remains well on track to become that "A grade / elite" midfield type (if he isn't already there).

He just seems to have a brilliant attitude. Every time you think there is a deficiency, be it attack on the ball or two way running Zaka seems to address it in the next game he plays.

Other than rediscovering his range when kicking for goal there is very little else that Zaharakis could be doing in his role as primarily an outside midfielder.

Always gets me and my mates a bit excited when he hits the ball at 200kph+ and pumps it inside 50.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

I'd like to know what people think the gap between Zaharakis' season from ANZAC 2012 to now and Mark Murphy in 2010 is. Using Murphy as the guide Zaharakis remains well on track to become that "A grade / elite" midfield type (if he isn't already there).

He just seems to have a brilliant attitude. Every time you think there is a deficiency, be it attack on the ball or two way running Zaka seems to address it in the next game he plays.

Other than rediscovering his range when kicking for goal there is very little else that Zaharakis could be doing in his role as primarily an outside midfielder.

Deceptively fast & a far better kick than Murphy...
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

Deceptively fast & a far better kick than Murphy...
Murphy is easily as good a kick as Zaka. He's the best kick at Carlton, better than Scotland, Simpson, Gibbs (overrated), Yarran (overrated) and the rest of them too. Zaka has a bit to go before he's in Murphy's class

I see Zaka as more of a poor mans Ablett right now, good breakaway speed from the contest, very good kick, rotates forward and kicks goals, just hasn't gone to that level yet.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

Murphy is easily as good a kick as Zaka. He's the best kick at Carlton, better than Scotland, Simpson, Gibbs (overrated), Yarran (overrated) and the rest of them too. Zaka has a bit to go before he's in Murphy's class

I see Zaka as more of a poor mans Ablett right now, good breakaway speed from the contest, very good kick, rotates forward and kicks goals, just hasn't gone to that level yet.

:thumbsu:;)
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

Murphy is easily as good a kick as Zaka. He's the best kick at Carlton, better than Scotland, Simpson, Gibbs (overrated), Yarran (overrated) and the rest of them too. Zaka has a bit to go before he's in Murphy's class

I see Zaka as more of a poor mans Ablett right now, good breakaway speed from the contest, very good kick, rotates forward and kicks goals, just hasn't gone to that level yet.

Good comparison. Will never get to Ablett's level but I'd take 70% of that!!! Probably needs another two preseasons. With the excitement Kavanagh's brought to Bendigo last game, Heppell's wonderful hands in close, Colyer's burst speed and Melksham's good vision we should have an excellent midfield to work off the hard work of Lonergan, Watson, Howlett and Hocking!! Same for all of them give them another one or two preseasons with the weapon!!
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

Naah, the Ablett comparison doesn't work because Gaz is an inside player (whose freakish ability enables him to work to the outside much like Judd, Swan & Dangerfield). That Ablett and Zaharakis started their careers in the forward line is as far as the comparison goes.

It doesn't mean that Zaka is a soft outside squib (this is the problem with "inside" and "outside" the terms are too loaded). It is simply that Zaharakis does not have the strength through the hips to be the inside force Ablett is; but he does have almost elite outside attributes which make him more suited to receiving the ball and (if necessary) finding his way through a stoppage.

Like a Murphy or quality (predominately) outside, center square type Zaka has no problem finding the thing himself but it is a waste to use him in that way (it's what Watson, Hocking, Howlett and Lonergan are for).

Zaka may develop but the strength was on display pretty early on with Ablett when he basically played at full-forward for the Cats (I remember Mooney saying that the Geelong players thought Ablett could be as good as Judd and that it was used in the infamous leading teams sessions). I don't see where the Ablett style midfield game is coming from in our boy.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

I'd compare Cotchin with Simon Black. Absoloute rolls royce.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

Thought it was accidental.

@AFL_PKeane: MRP. David Zaharkis can accept a reprimand for striking Tomas Bugg.
 

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Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

Thought it was accidental.

@AFL_PKeane: MRP. David Zaharkis can accept a reprimand for striking Tomas Bugg.


Dont remember this one happening. He must have really been Bugging them to cop a headbutt and a wack.

Any footage?
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

I hate this.

Bugg tackles him over the line and then continues to tackle him and bring him to ground. He continues to hold on so Zaharakis lets rip with his arm to push him off and clocks him in the face.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

Dont remember this one happening. He must have really been Bugging them to cop a headbutt and a wack.

Any footage?

Ha!

It was picked up by 7. It happened when Bugg tackled Zaka over the boundary. I think in the last.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

Yeah picked this, and happy to take the reprimand. In all honesty it was likely accidental, but that's the problem, there is no such thing as accidental with the MRP these days. With the criteria of reckless and negligible, you can't get away with anything, especially not an elbow to the face. Happy with the Heath outcome.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Tracking similarly to Murphy?

"David Zaharakis, Essendon, has been charged with a level two striking offence against Tomas Bugg, GWS Giants, during the fourth quarter of the round nine match between Essendon and the GWS Giants, played at Skoda Stadium on Saturday May 26, 2012.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the GWS Giants Football Club, the incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a level two offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record."

From AFL.com

Not really happy if he has to carry 93.75 demerit points for an accident, if thats what it was.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

Deceptively fast & a far better kick than Murphy...

Sorry but no, he isn't a far better kick than Murphy

Murphy is easily as good a kick as Zaka. He's the best kick at Carlton, better than Scotland, Simpson, Gibbs (overrated), Yarran (overrated) and the rest of them too. Zaka has a bit to go before he's in Murphy's class

No again. There is no way in the world that Murphy is as good a kick as Scotland. Scotland is one of the best kicks in the competition. Gibbs is also a comfortably better kick than Murphy.

I'd have him on par with Simpson and ahead of Yarran.
 

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Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Offered a reprimand

My take

Zaharakis is a better kick than Murphy - Murphy's kicking in his first 3 years was average but has improved every year. Zaharajis has been a good kick since his first game.

Scotland is in the best 20 kicks if not the best 10 kicks in the AFL.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Offered a reprimand

I say the bloody MRP is too busy looking for incidents that Essendon players are involved in. This one is as much of a joke as Jettas report. Lets compare this one to Harvey from Nth Melbourne, except zaka was being smudged into the ground from behind after being held down in the tackle over the line and threw his arm back to get the idiot off. Harvey was on top of the player and clearly throws an elbow/forearm to the face but hey thats ok coz he was "wrestling for the ball apparently!!!". THe fact this incident was even classified the same as Harveys is as much of a disgrace as the MRP iteself.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Offered a reprimand

You know what, **** it.

As long as the MRP refuses to acknowledge precedent and continues to come up with all sorts of bizarre and perverse decisions they deserve to have allegations of bias thrown in their faces.

It is a stupid bloody system run by one of the world's true, high profile imbeciles which is aimed at reducing time spent at the tribunal rather than making the correct decisions.
 
Re: #11: David Zaharakis - Another 30 possession game

Murphy is easily as good a kick as Zaka. He's the best kick at Carlton

I would disagree strongly with this.

He still drops the ball from too high & kicks too many floaters - well he would if he was playing... :)
 

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