Roast Chris Yarran

[The_Wookie]

Garlett was okay for someone that was blanketed all game.

Really concerning that the three all struggled on the big stage though. We need them next week.

Not really. Considering how Betts and Garlett have been very effective against the bombers its not surprising that they would be blanketed last night. Remember you cant always have starring roles week in, week out. Ask Jobe Watson how his night went. The Bombers would have actively ensured they had good blokes on them.

 

[Dramoth]

Sorry RK, but I watched a pub full of Essendon supporters and neutrals stand there with their jaw hanging at Lucas' horror period.

He's been bashed unfairly in the past.

But oh my god. That was a diabolical patch of football.

So no other footballer has horror patches in games... Only Lucas... is that it?

 

[Azzurri Blue2]

Overrated and soft....

Blokes like this will get found out in finals. Does not have the intensity to be a sub. Idea was right but bell would had given more. Second decision by coaching staff that lost another game potentially. Other being three playing 3 average ruckman that can't forward a fw weeks back

 

[footy75]

Lucas missing that goal was the moment the game would of been won. He kicks it and its 32 points up...instead he misses it and it goes up the other end for a goal..instead its 20 points

if u cant kick a goal from 3 meters out handball it to someone who can

and that flipping goal umpire is ******ed..why didn't yarran or anyone remonstrate.

crushing loss.

 

[Silvagnis]

Sorry RK, but I watched a pub full of Essendon supporters and neutrals stand there with their jaw hanging at Lucas' horror period.

He's been bashed unfairly in the past.

But oh my god. That was a diabolical patch of football.

You don't know goreds who likes Collins, yet criticises Lucas and Robinson.

 

[ESKIE]

I guess it's Kane's fault that they took it up the ground without anyone forcing a turnover and scored two goals from one error. No one else on the field besides Lucas.

Should Gibbs kick around corners and miss a goal from 20 to 30 out?

Did they score after Mclean missed?

Why did Armfield take off and miss in the first quarter with Lucas there to receive and be shepherded in?

Why did Garlett play on?

Lets turn it into a bash Lucas thread because you still have him on your blacklist.

Timing, it was the timing when Lucas missed, it would have stalled their momentum.

It was the easiest miss of the night.

Other wise I thought Kane was good.

They erred with the sub, yarran as a sub was stupid rwice this ear they've stuffed it up, mclean v pies.

When the game was in balaln e, judd, murphy and gibbs where good...maybe the coaching staff may need to look at howmthey coached because i think this is where it was lost and between our ears

 

[BlueTongue]

Appeared to be missing because he was left in the forward line for too long when he should've been in the midfield.

Poor use of the sub all round tonight, we were spanked at the stoppages once Robbo was subbed out.

Very noticeable. Not squarely blaming Lucas here but I thought he cost us some momentum more than once. A couple of bad turnovers which resulted in the ball quickly being run out up the other end for a goal, and that horrible miss on the run from about 10 metres out. I thought Robbo battled well even though he didn't get that much of it. Lucas should've been subbed instead of Robbo.

I don't think Yarran could've been held responsible last night, he didn't see enough of the play. Yes he could've made more of an effort to get to the kickout by Hendo, equally, Hendo could've seen Yarran was caught behind and popped it over the top. A lot of pressure at the time, I don't blame either. Jeffy's Non-Goal could've also given us two points. A lot of what-ifs there though.

 

[pumped]

Agree with the thread. This sort of effort happens too much with Yarran. He is as skilled as anyone but if he is to ever become a champion he must find the key to his brain fades.

 

[toomuchsparetime]

It was a shit kick, but that doesn't mean you just give up on it. Get it out of bounds, instead of whinging.

Judd missed a shot before Lucas which would've brought the house down and may have put them away.

Considering Judd is one of the all time greats, he sure does miss more goals than he kicks. Either with plenty of time to steady or on the snap I always think it's less likely to go through than miss.

Just doesn't seem to have a natural goal sense and has been happening for years. Not sure why we have been playing him in the forward line so often this season. If we're trying to ease the load on him put him on the wing.

To his credit Mr Judd is phenomenal when it comes to score assists and generally being a superstar clutch player.

 

[koutamarto]

Its harsh but probably true. Jeffy and yaz are great out the back and in space but there were a few efforts in that last qtr when we needed them to be harder. jeffy ran over it a couple of times trying for little clever 1 handed pick ups and that effort from yaz will give me nightmares for years.

 

[thylacine60]

Less concerning than Myers materialising inside 50 like Jamie Elliott did with no one on him and popping a gimme through.

Blame Lucas!

Yarran isn't soft overhead, so you can just put it down as a bad effort. Didn't avoid any contact with his effort to beat Bartel one out and in the air.

Your continual efforts to retro-fit skills to a player completely stymies any real current assessment of their progress.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Your continual efforts to retro-fit skills to a player completely stymies any real current assessment of their progress.

Obviously you go to the games, I only have the benefit of the Telly and 27 experts.

Tell me, the Great One, does Yazz put in the hard yards on the field?

 

[thylacine60]

Yes he does but he's the type of player who prefers space to work his magic. A player of his quality should have done much more to kill that marking contest off. He's happy to win a game off his own boot but when he senses the game is sliding I think he's more than happy to share the blame around. That was his contest 1 on 1 and he blew it. Can people refrain from confusing observations about a player's short-comings with blaming him for losing a game? FMD...

 

[le dominateur]

Yarran is one of those players that will have a great highlight reel by careers end but will never be a 'great' player.

 

[Tulip]

Guys, please excuse my intrusion.

When I saw that bit of play, it reminded me of what I've seen a few times from Yarran. Very talented player, can kick goals and break lines - but he seems to expect too much. Henderson busted his gut to avoid the point, and while his kick was a bit wayward to Yarran - he was tired and under pressure.

It seems like Yarran expected the ball to sail over his head so he could do a game winning Lewis Jetta dash along the wing and soak up the adulation of the crowd. The reality is different in pro footy. He should have been anticipating a less than perfect kick out and been prepared to fight tooth and nail to get the ball out of bounds at the very least. To play the percentages.

You have 3 very similar players to Yarran in Betts and Garlett, all who love to show a bit of dash. Surely it would be better if they were challenged to add another trick to their game? Betts can probably be excluded because he's an elite small, but the other two need to add something IMO. Look at that Garlett goal that wasn't, he needed to go back and slot it - to do what a footballer is meant to do. He's not there to excite the crowd, he's there to win you games of footy and save the adulation for later.

The only evidence that I need of Yarran's issues is watching Walker run all day off the HBF and becoming one of the best rebounders in the league. Walker can take a hanger, but he puts the team first and does his job.

Again, all IMO and sorry if I've overstepped the mark.

Bloody Essendon...

 

[thylacine60]

Guys, please excuse my intrusion.

When I saw that bit of play, it reminded me of what I've seen a few times from Yarran. Very talented player, can kick goals and break lines - but he seems to expect too much. Henderson busted his gut to avoid the point, and while his kick was a bit wayward to Yarran - he was tired and under pressure.

It seems like Yarran expected the ball to sail over his head so he could do a game winning Lewis Jetta dash along the wing and soak up the adulation of the crowd. The reality is different in pro footy. He should have been anticipating a less than perfect kick out and been prepared to fight tooth and nail to get the ball out of bounds at the very least. To play the percentages.

You have 3 very similar players to Yarran in Betts and Garlett, all who love to show a bit of dash. Surely it would be better if they were challenged to add another trick to their game? Betts can probably be excluded because he's an elite small, but the other two need to add something IMO. Look at that Garlett goal that wasn't, he needed to go back and slot it - to do what a footballer is meant to do. He's not there to excite the crowd, he's there to win you games of footy and save the adulation for later.

The only evidence that I need of Yarran's issues is watching Walker run all day off the HBF and becoming one of the best rebounders in the league. Walker can take a hanger, but he puts the team first and does his job.

Again, all IMO and sorry if I've overstepped the mark.

Bloody Essendon...

Think you're underselling the defensive games of Jeff and Eddie but otherwise yeah...

 

[Poseidon]

Weak effort but hardly surprising. This is why he swapped roles with Walker, not because he's a better forward but because he's a poor defender. We all love his run & dash and he can be so damaging but sometimes you have to do the 'ugly' stuff and play the percentages. I think just about everyone in the team has him covered for defensive effort.

 

[SE_Blue]

You have 3 very similar players to Yarran in Betts and Garlett, all who love to show a bit of dash. Surely it would be better if they were challenged to add another trick to their game? Betts can probably be excluded because he's an elite small, but the other two need to add something IMO. Look at that Garlett goal that wasn't, he needed to go back and slot it - to do what a footballer is meant to do. He's not there to excite the crowd, he's there to win you games of footy and save the adulation for later.

Think you're right with this and that seems to be what Malthouse is doing. Garlett's been playing a lot more up the ground than in recent years, Eddie too.

 

[Tulip]

I'd do anything to have Betts and Garlett at the feet of Clark, Howe, Dawes and Watts - I'm just not sure you can carry 3 when they all do the same thing

 

[95blues]

Ive watched that replay a few times now... Maybe Yarran could have put in more effort.. but he wasn't going to affect the contest without suddenly morphing into Dustin Fletcher. He had already made his move for a ball going over the back and was caught having to change direction due to where Hendo kicked it. Was never going to be able to stop the mark unless he knew Hendo was going to kick it short.

Doesn't matter anyway, 80% of the team was walking/jogging from 5 minutes into the last and onwards anyway. EVERY single game we play, they seem to just switch off and go into autopilot for 10-15 minutes. THAT is where the problem lies, not Hendersons kick or Yarrans effort in 1 single play.

 

[SE_Blue]

I'd do anything to have Betts and Garlett at the feet of Clark, Howe, Dawes and Watts - I'm just not sure you can carry 3 when they all do the same thing

I think the idea is usually to have two in there and one up the ground/on the bench (but then again I'm not the coach, what would I know).

It's great when they are waiting at the feet of our big guys, but last night they just weren't getting there. Betts wasn't match fit however and probably should've been the sub.

 

[95blues]

I'd do anything to have Betts and Garlett at the feet of Clark, Howe, Dawes and Watts - I'm just not sure you can carry 3 when they all do the same thing

I think they are actually all very different to be honest.

Garlett - while an awesome crumber, is actually also covering an awful lot of ground and spending quality minutes in the middle.

Eddie - Strictly a forward pocket for mine, but doesn't mind leading up a bit, and is also a good centre clearance guy.

Yarran - I see him as more of a lead up Half Forward/Wing, isn't even close to Jeff/Eddie at getting to the loose ball in the forward line. Is actually very good overhead, just not put in the situation enough.

 

[gbatman]

Insipid display of mental weakness from Yarran. Could have been a match winner but didn't even want to chase. Pathetic.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Not rubbish at all.

Yarran's soft effort resulted in a match winning goal

I reckon MM's thinks Yarran is soft and a bit mentally weak and that effort would not of done much to change his views.

Have heard Mick make some remarks as a commentator last year which suggested to me he thought he was a bit soft on channel 7.

 

[alfo]

A good point that was raised on SEN after the match last night, was that Yarran isn't made to be a sub player.
A sub player is one who is able to find the footy themselves, and win their own ball.
Whereas Yarran is one of those players who creates his opportunity from the ball being in his vicinity and people kicking it to his space, which is why he perhaps should've started the game.

From this point, having Lucas as the sub would've been a better option as he is able to find the footy and rack up the possessions (though doesn't win his own ball). If only Ellard wasn't injured, he would fill this spot perfectly.

As someone mentioned earlier, Robbo as the sub really hurt us late in the game when we needed an extra hard body to compete in the midfield and make contests.