Cyril Rioli = Most over-rated player in the AFL

[Procrastinator35]

Thread: verified.

Funny how its mostly Puddy Tat supporters flocking to this thread....Truth is They'd all give an arm & a leg to Have Rioli in their Team!....If fact, If they Had him, they'd of had 5 Cups in the Trophy Cabinet by now Instead of 3 in the past 7 Years....Such a pity!....Lame SJ, Very Lame Indeed there Son!

 

[candiehappy]

Funny how its mostly Puddy Tat supporters flocking to this thread....Truth is They'd all give an arm & a leg to Have Rioli in their Team!....If fact, If they Had him, they'd of had 5 Cups in the Trophy Cabinet by now Instead of 3 in the past 7 Years....Such a pity!....Lame SJ, Very Lame Indeed there Son!

yeah, Rioli really nailed that 2012 GG for you. Certainly made a name for himself ...

 

[Procrastinator35]

yeah, Rioli really nailed that 2012 GG for you. Certainly made a name for himself ...

As MeatLoaf would say When he Use to be able to sing....2 out of 3 Aint Bad!

 

[MOONEY 21]

Funny how its mostly Puddy Tat supporters flocking to this thread....Truth is They'd all give an arm & a leg to Have Rioli in their Team!....If fact, If they Had him, they'd of had 5 Cups in the Trophy Cabinet by now Instead of 3 in the past 7 Years....Such a pity!....Lame SJ, Very Lame Indeed there Son!

heck that, wouldnt want the overrated flash in the pan in the hoops, we have a the more consistent version anyway, dont lose too much sleep over it.

 

[Procrastinator35]

heck that, wouldnt want the overrated flash in the pan in the hoops, we have a the more consistent version anyway, dont lose too much sleep over it.

Are you referring to that unaccountable down-hill skier who cant tackle, is frightened of Body contact & relies upon his mates to get him the ball....AKA Motlop......Yeah....Nice try!

Give him another 5 seasons & he might be half the player Cyril is.....That is, develop a comprehensive game....A truly Deluded Sour Puddy Tat Flog!

 

[Smedts_2]

Are you referring to that unaccountable down-hill skier who cant tackle, is frightened of Body contact & relies upon his mates to get him the ball....AKA Motlop......Yeah....Nice try!

Give him another 5 seasons & he might be half the player Cyril is.....That is, develop a comprehensive game....A truly Deluded Sour Puddy Tat Flog!

Give me some of them drugs.

 

[candiehappy]

Are you referring to that unaccountable down-hill skier who cant tackle, is frightened of Body contact & relies upon his mates to get him the ball....AKA Motlop......Yeah....Nice try!

Give him another 5 seasons & he might be half the player Cyril is.....That is, develop a comprehensive game....A truly Deluded Sour Puddy Tat Flog!

I witnessed that "comprehensive" game in the 2012 GF.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I witnessed that "comprehensive" game in the 2012 GF.

Yep....So Did I; re Motlop in the 2013 Prelim Final!!!!.....Nice Try!

Premierships: Cyril 2, Motlop 1
Accountability: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 1/10
Tackling/ Defensive Pressure: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 1/10
Speed, Finesse, Skill-set: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 10/10
Attacking Capabilities: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 10/10

Nuf Said....Smedts....You need a new drug that's not so delusional & Puddy Tattered!

 

[candiehappy]

Yep....So Did I; re Motlop in the 2013 Prelim Final!!!!.....Nice Try!

Premierships: Cyril 2, Motlop 1
Accountability: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 1/10
Tackling/ Defensive Pressure: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 1/10
Speed, Finesse, Skill-set: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 10/10
Attacking Capabilities: Cyril 10/10, Motlop 10/10

Nuf Said....Smedts....You need a new drug that's not so delusional & Puddy Tattered!

enough said

 

[Procrastinator35]

enough said

Yep....Interesting 2 see you didn't take me up on any of my points.....Nuf Said!

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Yep....Interesting 2 see you didn't take me up on any of my points.....Nuf Said!

Singlehandedly proving the thread correct

 

[Partridge]

Incidentally, I don’t think anyone from Geelong gets offended about Rioli. Generally when he plays against us he’s pretty well held by Enright (an actual elite player)

Except in the Prelim, when Cam Guthrie stepped up and did the job instead.

 

[UmpiringFooty]

Sounds like hawthorn need to teach their players to stretch properly. Instead of stretching your hamstrings for 1 second try holding it for 30 seconds.

 

[Procrastinator35]

So lets see what an independent arbiter with no parochial barrow to push has to say on the matter of whether or not Cyril is Elite:

2013 AFL OFFICIAL PLAYER RANKINGS:

Joel Selwood 3
Cyril Rioli 11
Sam Mitchell 13
Jarryd Roughead 16
Steve Johnson 22
Jimmy Bartel 26
James Kelly 42
Corey Enright 43
Harry Taylor 44
Shaun Burgoyne 49
Luke Hodge 59
Luke Breust 60
Jordan Lewis 65
Daniel Motlop 66
Grant Birchall 72

So Cyril is in Fact.....The highest Ranked Hawk of All....According to this frame of reference, which uses Champion Data Stats as its Gauge.

Not only that!....He is 30 places above your supposedly Actual Elite Player in Enright & a Whopping 53 Places above your Good Player in Motlop

Hell,.... Even Breusty has Motlop Covered!

Conclusion....Cats Flogs canning Cyril as Elite Are full of Crap & Don't know shit about Football!

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

So massively overrated, just look at that crap.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Clueless to the End....Hardly surprising given your choice of Avatar!

 

[Hodgepodge]

Except in the Prelim, when Cam Guthrie stepped up and did the job instead.

Where was Guthrie in the last quarter?

But for the umpiring howler of the season and Rioli not hearing the siren due to the Cats monumental choking effort sending the crowd into a frenzy, Rioli would have had another 2 goals to his name.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Where was Guthrie in the last quarter?

He & Lunchlady Doris along with Motlop were getting it on behind the Sheds in a quite gruesome display!

 

[Hodgepodge]

He & Lunchlady Doris along with Motlop were getting it on behind the Sheds in a quite gruesome display!

Yeah Motflop. Another disappearing act in the last when it needed to be won he couldn't even outrun a 31 year old defender with a corkie.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Yeah Motflop. Another disappearing act in the last when it needed to be won he couldn't even outrun a 31 year old defender with a corkie.

Savin himself for Doris No Doubt!

 

[11sjw]

heck that, wouldnt want the overrated flash in the pan in the hoops, we have a the more consistent version anyway, dont lose too much sleep over it.

Yeah you have Varchoke & 1voteflop.

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

So lets see what an independent arbiter with no parochial barrow to push has to say on the matter of whether or not Cyril is Elite:

2013 AFL OFFICIAL PLAYER RANKINGS:

Joel Selwood 3
Cyril Rioli 11
Sam Mitchell 13
Jarryd Roughead 16
Steve Johnson 22
Jimmy Bartel 26
James Kelly 42
Corey Enright 43
Harry Taylor 44
Shaun Burgoyne 49
Luke Hodge 59
Luke Breust 60
Jordan Lewis 65
Daniel Motlop 66
Grant Birchall 72

So Cyril is in Fact.....The highest Ranked Hawk of All....According to this frame of reference, which uses Champion Data Stats as its Gauge.

Not only that!....He is 30 places above your supposedly Actual Elite Player in Enright & a Whopping 53 Places above your Good Player in Motlop

Hell,.... Even Breusty has Motlop Covered!

Conclusion....Cats Flogs canning Cyril as Elite Are full of Crap & Don't know shit about Football!

I am not a Cyril knocker he can clearly play. But the point of this thread is that he is overrated. You have just confirmed it by posting these numbers. The validity of Champion Data as a true worth of a player has snuck up on fans insidously, almost unnoticed until David King started to use them to appear an astute observer of the game. Once King uses it - credibility gone.

Id rate a heap of Hawks ahead of Cyril. Give me the consistency of Mitchell, the courage and determination of Hodge or the sheer power of Roughhead to name a few. Rioli shows flashes of real brilliance that can obscure the fact that he can go missing for periods of a game just like all small forwards do.

When Rioli shanked a kick into the forward line in the Prelim, according to Bruce, thats brilliant. According to most others, thats overrated. Only Tippett comes close.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I am not a Cyril knocker he can clearly play. But the point of this thread is that he is overrated. You have just confirmed it by posting these numbers. The validity of Champion Data as a true worth of a player has snuck up on fans insidously, almost unnoticed until David King started to use them to appear an astute observer of the game. Once King uses it - credibility gone.

Id rate a heap of Hawks ahead of Cyril. Give me the consistency of Mitchell, the courage and determination of Hodge or the sheer power of Roughhead to name a few. Rioli shows flashes of real brilliance that can obscure the fact that he can go missing for periods of a game just like all small forwards do.

When Rioli shanked a kick into the forward line in the Prelim, according to Bruce, thats brilliant. According to most others, thats overrated. Only Tippett comes close.

Finally a Cats supporter who can put a valid argument together to back their point of view & a Debutant at that....!

Indeed Pavlov, Cyril's 'Style' does come across as erratic, spasmodic, in & out of the Game, somewhat Random.....We get the point!

However; Its a player's OVERALL Effect on an entire game over 4 quarters, which is the True Measure of their Worth!

In Cyril's Case, he consistently Tops the 1%ers that so often go unnoticed by most mainstream supporters!....Defensive Pressure acts leading to turnovers & Goals....Cyril is clearly No 1 in the League in this facet of the Game!....A lot of his influence is as a direct result of his tackling & defensive pressure!....Something Cats fans significantly downplay, lose sight of or misunderstand altogether!

Seldom does Cyril top the 20 Possession mark, But that is exactly my Point!!!!....Too many mainstream supporters gauge a players worth by sheer weight of possessions alone; which is fully understandable given the predominance of importance placed on this one statistic for well over 50 years now as the core measure of a midfielders Worth!

My Point is:....Cyril is the Exception to this misguided notion!.....Unfortunately....Most Puddy Tat Flogs lack the I.Q quota necessary to see past the Bleeding Obvious!

 

[Smedts_2]

Finally a Cats supporter who can put a valid argument together to back their point of view & a Debutant at that....!

Indeed Pavlov, Cyril's 'Style' does come across as erratic, spasmodic, in & out of the Game, somewhat Random.....We get the point!

However; Its a player's OVERALL Effect on an entire game over 4 quarters, which is the True Measure of their Worth!

In Cyril's Case, he consistently Tops the 1%ers that so often go unnoticed by most mainstream supporters!....Defensive Pressure acts leading to turnovers & Goals....Cyril is clearly No 1 in the League in this facet of the Game!....A lot of his influence is as a direct result of his tackling & defensive pressure!....Something Cats fans significantly downplay, lose sight of or misunderstand altogether!

Seldom does Cyril top the 20 Possession mark, But that is exactly my Point!!!!....Too many mainstream supporters gauge a players worth by sheer weight of possessions alone; which is fully understandable given the predominance of importance placed on this one statistic for well over 50 years now as the core measure of a midfielders Worth!

My Point is:....Cyril is the Exception to this misguided notion!.....Unfortunately....Most Puddy Tat Flogs lack the I.Q quota necessary to see past the Bleeding Obvious!

I think you've sort of proved the OP.

 

[Smedts_2]

So lets see what an independent arbiter with no parochial barrow to push has to say on the matter of whether or not Cyril is Elite:

2013 AFL OFFICIAL PLAYER RANKINGS:

Joel Selwood 3
Cyril Rioli 11
Sam Mitchell 13
Jarryd Roughead 16
Steve Johnson 22
Jimmy Bartel 26
James Kelly 42
Corey Enright 43
Harry Taylor 44
Shaun Burgoyne 49
Luke Hodge 59
Luke Breust 60
Jordan Lewis 65
Daniel Motlop 66
Grant Birchall 72

So Cyril is in Fact.....The highest Ranked Hawk of All....According to this frame of reference, which uses Champion Data Stats as its Gauge.

James Kelly had an absolutely shithouse year.

You might want to find some better data.