Health Thin shaming

[Slax]

Yes, but men probably need to ensure they're being sensitive.

Being sensitive on issues of obesity and under-eating doesn't solve the problem, sometimes you just need to blunt to the point and just tell the truth. If someone doesn't want to listen to it that is there problem but to avoid addressing if you fail to tell the person they have a problem then you're just as much a part of the problem.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Yes, but men probably need to ensure they're being sensitive.

Yes, there's that.

It's entirely unhelpful if their contribution is something like this, for example:

I love how it's always the Chrissy Swann types saying "real women have curves".

Here's a little tip to help translate fat woman talk back into proper English.

Anorexic = skinny
Skinny = normal
Normal = chubby
Curvy = fat
Big beautiful woman = obese

 

[Catfish Alley]

Being sensitive on issues of obesity and under-eating doesn't solve the problem, sometimes you just need to blunt to the point and just tell the truth. If someone doesn't want to listen to it that is there problem but to avoid addressing if you fail to tell the person they have a problem then you're just as much a part of the problem.

None of your business. I understand if it's a loved one but do you seriously tell overweight people to get their act together? You must have been punched so much.

 

[El Dubya]

My issue is largely with the media. If I had a child I wouldn't want them growing up believing that obesity is not something to be ashamed of because it is.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Mostly it's learned behavour. I don't think 'ashamed' is the right word but then again they shouldn't be overly proud of their weight. Certainly you could be a fat person proud of the rest of your achievements.

 

[Slax]

None of your business. I understand if it's a loved one but do you seriously tell overweight people to get their act together? You must have been punched so much.

Do you seriously tell someone who is fat they are looking healthy?

Sure I'm not going to tell a stranger that, but if I'm in a position with that person where they will ask or listen to your opinion then you need to give it honestly.

If you really do care for someone then you owe it to them to tell them the truth, if you can't do that then ask yourself do you really have their best interests at heart?

 

[SugarShane]

I hate that "Real women have curves" bullshit. So just because a woman might be born thin, and watch what she eats, she's not a real woman? **** off. Real women have vaginas. That's it.

 

[Resistor]

Ever since the advent of facebook likes and instagram, people care too much what others think

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

I hate that "Real women have curves" bullshit. So just because a woman might be born thin, and watch what she eats, she's not a real woman? **** off. Real women have vaginas.That's it.

Don't even need one of those anymore. Just chuck on a dress and call yourself a woman and you're all good.

Anyone that disagrees is a transophobe.

 

[brahj]

Ever since the advent of facebook likes and instagram, people care too much what others think

I agree!





pls like this post

 

[Resistor]

like4like bro

 

[vWestCoast]

I hate that "Real women have curves" bullshit. So just because a woman might be born thin, and watch what she eats, she's not a real woman? **** off. Real women have vaginas. That's it.

This. Women who actually want to live a healthy life and be fit seem to be the ones that get criticized the most now. While the fat ones choosing to be bad role models when it comes to health are praised for being themselves? **** that no one should be praised for being unhealthy and obese.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I reckon guys get the easier ride for putting on the pounds.

 

[edgie]

Why don't men have a right to talk about women's body issues? They presumably have mothers, sisters, wives, daughters...

Because they're still women and we're still men who don't have the slightest clue how their brain works, let alone about their feelings...

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Because they're still women and we're still men who don't have the slightest clue how their brain works, let alone about their feelings...

I'm a woman, and I think it's helpful for men to at least attempt to understand some of these issues. Further, men can have the same self esteem issues that plague women, so it's a problem across the board.

 

[edgie]

I'm a woman, and I think it's helpful for men to at least attempt to understand some of these issues. Further, men can have the same self esteem issues that plague women, so it's a problem across the board.

Educate us.

Whilst body image perception are definitely here to stay with men, I don't think as many as a % would have serious issues about it.

I find it annoying and aggravating, nothing more. Even the sarcastic do U even lift bro from Dubya has lost any humourist appeal it once had.

Look at the new Terminator. The original 2 characters were born average figures, and nothing wrong with that. Now Sarah Connor is very petitie, and Kyle Reese is buff as ****, moreso than the actual Terminator...

 

[Gough]

Is this body image crisis, subsequent health issues, and bullying/shaming another byproduct of the social media, web 2.0 phenomena? It don't recall being either as vain about my body, or as worried about what others think I might look like, as some appear to today.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Educate us.

Whilst body image perception are definitely here to stay with men, I don't think as many as a % would have serious issues about it.

I find it annoying and aggravating, nothing more. Even the sarcastic do U even lift bro from Dubya has lost any humourist appeal it once had.

Okay, I'll share my experience with you.

When I was growing up, my mother filled the house with magazines like Women's Day, New Idea, etc. She was always on some kind of diet, especially after her and my dad split up, and spent a lot of time complaining about her body. Her thighs were too big, her arse was too big, her boobs were too small, can't get a bathing suit without padding...oooh, does that bathing suit have elastane that will suck my big belly in? Perfect! She was never satisfied with the way she looked. She didn't wear dresses because she hated her knees, she wore jackets because she hated her arms, etc etc. Food wasn't about nutrition, it was about the eternal quest to be thin and desirable.

As a 12, 13, 14 year old I didn't really care. I was thin, I was pretty, I had gorgeous shiny hair down to my butt that was the envy of a lot of the girls at school. I wore shorts and skirts and dresses and jeans and anything else that I felt like. I'd hit puberty comparatively early so I already had a curvy (but still thin, about a size 8) figure.

There's one particular memory that sticks out in my mind. I had turned 15 and had a pair of shorts on, and my mother looked at me and said, "Oh no, you're not wearing shorts like that with those thighs!" And that was it. I had absorbed everything negative she'd said about her appearance and all of a sudden I was a mess...I would go days without eating, stuff myself stupid with unhealthy snacks to stave off the hunger, I'd stand in front of the mirror and pinch at myself to pull out the fat bits.

I continued like this until about the age of 23. I broke up with a dud boyfriend and had an epiphany. I stopped buying destructive women's magazines, stopped caring about the number on my clothing size and started caring more about fit, and shape, etc and I've never been happier (I'm 27 now).

Many of my girlfriends have similar experiences, where their level of self-worth has been determined by their mothers.

Having said all that, it's not easy, and I have to constantly reassure myself that the way I look is perfectly acceptable. Yesterday I tried on a wedding dress with my mum, and the first two comments that popped out of her mouth were negative, but I loved the dress so I ignored her input.

TLDR: a lot of women have low self esteem because they've absorbed it from their mother and other women in their lives.

 

[edgie]

Okay, I'll share my experience with you.

When I was growing up, my mother filled the house with magazines like Women's Day, New Idea, etc. She was always on some kind of diet, especially after her and my dad split up, and spent a lot of time complaining about her body. Her thighs were too big, her arse was too big, her boobs were too small, can't get a bathing suit without padding...oooh, does that bathing suit have elastane that will suck my big belly in? Perfect! She was never satisfied with the way she looked. She didn't wear dresses because she hated her knees, she wore jackets because she hated her arms, etc etc. Food wasn't about nutrition, it was about the eternal quest to be thin and desirable.

As a 12, 13, 14 year old I didn't really care. I was thin, I was pretty, I had gorgeous shiny hair down to my butt that was the envy of a lot of the girls at school. I wore shorts and skirts and dresses and jeans and anything else that I felt like. I'd hit puberty comparatively early so I already had a curvy (but still thin, about a size 8) figure.

There's one particular memory that sticks out in my mind. I had turned 15 and had a pair of shorts on, and my mother looked at me and said, "Oh no, you're not wearing shorts like that with those thighs!" And that was it. I had absorbed everything negative she'd said about her appearance and all of a sudden I was a mess...I would go days without eating, stuff myself stupid with unhealthy snacks to stave off the hunger, I'd stand in front of the mirror and pinch at myself to pull out the fat bits.

I continued like this until about the age of 23. I broke up with a dud boyfriend and had an epiphany. I stopped buying destructive women's magazines, stopped caring about the number on my clothing size and started caring more about fit, and shape, etc and I've never been happier (I'm 27 now).

Many of my girlfriends have similar experiences, where their level of self-worth has been determined by their mothers.

Having said all that, it's not easy, and I have to constantly reassure myself that the way I look is perfectly acceptable. Yesterday I tried on a wedding dress with my mum, and the first two comments that popped out of her mouth were negative, but I loved the dress so I ignored her input.

TLDR: a lot of women have low self esteem because they've absorbed it from their mother and other women in their lives.

Well I don't know where guys get it from. Most of my mates have cool dads, that are big and strong, and would have emphasised being that when they were growing up to their sons, but it has never been about how you look. All these dads have flabby bits and wear a few x's before their l's. It's never been about washboard abs or big biceps. Contrary to popular belief, muscle size and definition isn't always hand in hand with strength.

Now you have a whole generation of young men pumping iron to get "huge", not to get "strong and healthy", I don't know where it comes from... Is it media? Is it women? The fashion industry? Buggered if I know!

 

[Gough]

It's also worth noting that more, and more, obesity is also a leading indicator of poverty.

 

[Catfish Alley]

It's also worth noting that more, and more, obesity is also a leading indicator of poverty.

Is that right? I guess the fat-cat image is on the decline. They are more like Branson or Cuban.

Makes sense though. Almost like it's hard to get out of that cycle. If you're raised that way it may be hard to know how to cook healthily.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Real men go for curves?

Real men go for whatever the **** they want

 

[Stratton_Gun]

I would guess most "thin shaming" is coming from fatties who are trying to make themselves feel better.
But too thin is not healthy. Had a mate in high school who would have been around 6'1" and weighed legit 53kg. Said his Mum took him to the doctor she was getting worried about him.

 

[BEEG]

Its interesting topic i have always found men are a lot more harshly treated with weight gain then women are

last 2 years i have had people on my back about dropping weight and eventually i got sick off it and have done it but i doubt a women would get the same amount off crap i have then again i am pretty easy going

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Its interesting topic i have always found men are a lot more harshly treated with weight gain then women are

last 2 years i have had people on my back about dropping weight and eventually i got sick off it and have done it but i doubt a women would get the same amount off crap i have then again i am pretty easy going

Not so sure about that. I've been engaged since May and the amount of people who have asked me if I'm going to lose weight for the wedding is ridiculous.