Women's Footy AFC GET Women's Team

[CrowinNT]

You know that Alice Springs is also in the NT? Night game in the heart of Australia at the picturesque Traeger Park. Sounds like an ideal way to kick off the competition. No sane person wants to go to Darwin in February.

Picture Perfect


TIO Darwin

 

[GreyCrow]

 

[dogs105]

Hot Alice or hotter and either wet or humid in Darwin. Would be a lovely dry 20ish degree night game, with a faint breeze, just enough to cool the players down a smidge but not effect ball flight. Or putrid in Darwin.

So Darwin it is

 

[1970crow]

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No way she is a great player and said on footy feed that she would like to play for melbourne but would need a good offer to go elsewhere were.

She also said that if she didn't play for Melbourne she'd "have to weigh up whether she played" and also whether she'd be better putting her energies into her after football career. It's pretty simple, she's saying that if it's not Melbourne then she'll be seriously considering not playing.

Read the article, the quotes prove the headline to be a pretty accurate representation of her point. Wouldn't be shrugged off of this was a 17 year old draftee that wanted to play for onot one club. Most are thrilled just to get on a list.

 

[adelaidecrows]

She's the Gaz of the Women's Football League and has also been the AFL's "poster" girl.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-...reatens-to-hang-up-boots-20160615-gpjv26.html

The most coveted footballer in the AFL's new women's league, Daisy Pearce, has threatened to retire if she can't play for her beloved Melbourne Football Club.

The AFL womans league need to live by the same draft rules as the men. I am not sure whether Daisy's comments were taken out of context but I think on the back of her outburst she needs to be excluded from next year or refused permission to sign as a marquee player. Dangerous precedents can be set by doing what she has done. The woman need to know how serious the need for a draft is and that tampering with it is just unforgivable. If the AFL allow her to go unsanctioned and she goes to where she wants, whats to say days before the draft we get a whole host of potential draftees start talking publicly about threatening to retire due to career and family if they can't stay in the particular state. In truth what can the AFL say at a press conference when quizzed on why there is one set of draft rules for the men and another for the woman.

 

[1970crow]

Clubs get to nominate a marquee player, they'll probably all nominate her and she'll get her pick. She'll pick Melbourne. What she's done for the game in Victoria over the past 18 months is exceptional. She deserves to go anywhere she wants and given her relationship with Melbourne and all that club has done for the game - they deserve her.

Caroline Wilson did a great piece on her about a month ago - check it out

Check out Sam Lane's from yesterday. The same day the AFL have their major announcement and advise the player acquisition system we get a player threatening to walk away from the game if they don't get to their club of choice. Why is this sense of entitlement accepted and in some cases encouraged?

 

[1970crow]

She's the Gaz of the Women's Football League and has also been the AFL's "poster" girl.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-...reatens-to-hang-up-boots-20160615-gpjv26.html

The most coveted footballer in the AFL's new women's league, Daisy Pearce, has threatened to retire if she can't play for her beloved Melbourne Football Club.

As the AFL instructed eight handpicked foundation clubs on Wednesday that further signings are strictly forbidden while it selects marquee players and sets their destinations in the national competition, Pearce dictated her own non-negotiable terms.

If the AFL sought to pair Pearce with another club, she said: "I'd really have to weigh up whether I played."

Though the scenario is unlikely, Pearce's conscious move to publicly mark territory suggests it is not entirely out of the question, either.

Arguably Australia's most marketable female AFL footballer and unquestionably among the most elite, Pearce represents hot property for the likes of rival Victorian sides Collingwood, Carlton and the Western Bulldogs. There is no question that if she wanted to relocate, the Brisbane Lions, Adelaide, Fremantle and Greater Western Sydney would leap at snapping Pearce up, but she is adamant about staying put.

"I mean, I'm 28 and obviously my first love is playing the game but now I'm on the cusp of a career in football, I've got a job here and some really great supporters here at Melbourne that are helping to set me up for my next chapter," the midfield star told Fairfax Media on the day the composition of the landmark new league was announced.

"If I couldn't play my football here at Melbourne it would certainly lean me towards putting that energy into my [off field] career.

"Certainly now that I work here at the club it's going to be difficult to move me anywhere else. Along with the fact that I'm very proud to call myself a Melbourne person because of the pioneering work that they've done in the lead-up to today. This is where I see myself playing my football and where I hope to play my football."

In a move as progressive as it has proved strategic, Melbourne signed trailblazing female coach Michelle Cowan and Pearce – its only female captain to date and inaugural woman best and fairest player winner last year – on employment contracts in February.

Regarded as a senior off-field future leader of the game by Melbourne's veteran chief executive Peter Jackson, Pearce is undertaking placements across the Demons' business in what the club has termed a graduate traineeship role.

Cowan, meanwhile, joined Melbourne's player welfare and development coaches' team and, in addition to coaching the Demons' female side in this season's exhibition series, has developed a mentor-mentee relationship with men's senior coach in waiting Simon Goodwin.

Perth-based, where she lives with her husband and their two young children, Cowan commutes to Melbourne once a fortnight for stints of four days of work. She sits with Paul Roos and his coaching panel at matches that synchronise.

Melbourne's clear preference is that Cowan becomes their women's team coach but she will almost certainly encounter overtures from Fremantle, which beat the West Coast Eagles for a women's team for 2017.

Patiently observing the gentleman-type agreement hold on player signings while the AFL decided which clubs would make the initial cut, Melbourne were far from alone in bristling when the Brisbane Lions trumpeted, in May, the signing of what they termed their first marquee player in the gifted Tayla Harris.

Bulldogs chiefs were equally miffed when Collingwood swooped on Meg Hutchins in April – appointing her female football operations manager – after the key defender was a fixture of the Dogs' spine in exhibition games over three years.

The AFL is yet to stipulate firm rules around capping clubs' spending on female players in the way it does for men. The league has committed to consulting with clubs and players – many of whom are anxious about potential relocations – in arriving at what's anticipated will be two marquee players per side set-up.

Marquee players will be paid $25,000 each for the first eight-week season. Additional players will be distributed through lottery-based drafts and paid on a scaled system.

So the rules as described by the AFL don't apply to her? Gaz or not, surely we're not encouraging any footballer to think they can threaten their way around the rules due to their playing abilities. Is that really your position?

I honestly don't understand how this came about. The player is clearly going to be at Melbourne. The AFL said they'd be consulting with the clubs and players after the lodgement. There's no way this player would end up anywhere but Melbourne. And yet the main headline in the online Age AFL section last night was all about her potentially walking away. I'm sure it's not where the AFL wanted the focus.

 

[SydCrow]

Now we can debate who is the better Daisy, Pearce or Thomas.

 

[Niximus]

If there's one thing to come from Pearce feeling entitled to play for the club she wants, I now hope we bury Melbourne

 

[SydCrow]

Draft tampering, six month suspension and no picks for two years.

 

[footy4ever]

Anyone else couldn't care less either way about having a women's team?...or a women's comp for that matter?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Check out Sam Lane's from yesterday. The same day the AFL have their major announcement and advise the player acquisition system we get a player threatening to walk away from the game if they don't get to their club of choice. Why is this sense of entitlement accepted and in some cases encouraged?

She's the new Tredrea!

 

[Slippery Pete]

She's the Gaz of the Women's Football League and has also been the AFL's "poster" girl.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-...reatens-to-hang-up-boots-20160615-gpjv26.html

The most coveted footballer in the AFL's new women's league, Daisy Pearce, has threatened to retire if she can't play for her beloved Melbourne Football Club.

As the AFL instructed eight handpicked foundation clubs on Wednesday that further signings are strictly forbidden while it selects marquee players and sets their destinations in the national competition, Pearce dictated her own non-negotiable terms.

If the AFL sought to pair Pearce with another club, she said: "I'd really have to weigh up whether I played."

Though the scenario is unlikely, Pearce's conscious move to publicly mark territory suggests it is not entirely out of the question, either.

Arguably Australia's most marketable female AFL footballer and unquestionably among the most elite, Pearce represents hot property for the likes of rival Victorian sides Collingwood, Carlton and the Western Bulldogs. There is no question that if she wanted to relocate, the Brisbane Lions, Adelaide, Fremantle and Greater Western Sydney would leap at snapping Pearce up, but she is adamant about staying put.

"I mean, I'm 28 and obviously my first love is playing the game but now I'm on the cusp of a career in football, I've got a job here and some really great supporters here at Melbourne that are helping to set me up for my next chapter," the midfield star told Fairfax Media on the day the composition of the landmark new league was announced.

"If I couldn't play my football here at Melbourne it would certainly lean me towards putting that energy into my [off field] career.

"Certainly now that I work here at the club it's going to be difficult to move me anywhere else. Along with the fact that I'm very proud to call myself a Melbourne person because of the pioneering work that they've done in the lead-up to today. This is where I see myself playing my football and where I hope to play my football."

In a move as progressive as it has proved strategic, Melbourne signed trailblazing female coach Michelle Cowan and Pearce – its only female captain to date and inaugural woman best and fairest player winner last year – on employment contracts in February.

Regarded as a senior off-field future leader of the game by Melbourne's veteran chief executive Peter Jackson, Pearce is undertaking placements across the Demons' business in what the club has termed a graduate traineeship role.

Cowan, meanwhile, joined Melbourne's player welfare and development coaches' team and, in addition to coaching the Demons' female side in this season's exhibition series, has developed a mentor-mentee relationship with men's senior coach in waiting Simon Goodwin.

Perth-based, where she lives with her husband and their two young children, Cowan commutes to Melbourne once a fortnight for stints of four days of work. She sits with Paul Roos and his coaching panel at matches that synchronise.

Melbourne's clear preference is that Cowan becomes their women's team coach but she will almost certainly encounter overtures from Fremantle, which beat the West Coast Eagles for a women's team for 2017.

Patiently observing the gentleman-type agreement hold on player signings while the AFL decided which clubs would make the initial cut, Melbourne were far from alone in bristling when the Brisbane Lions trumpeted, in May, the signing of what they termed their first marquee player in the gifted Tayla Harris.

Bulldogs chiefs were equally miffed when Collingwood swooped on Meg Hutchins in April – appointing her female football operations manager – after the key defender was a fixture of the Dogs' spine in exhibition games over three years.

The AFL is yet to stipulate firm rules around capping clubs' spending on female players in the way it does for men. The league has committed to consulting with clubs and players – many of whom are anxious about potential relocations – in arriving at what's anticipated will be two marquee players per side set-up.

Marquee players will be paid $25,000 each for the first eight-week season. Additional players will be distributed through lottery-based drafts and paid on a scaled system.

This is how "seriously" these women take their football. The opportunity to play isn't enough, if I can't play for the club I barrack for, well, see ya later folks.

And they expect us to pay to watch this. Ha.

 

[Allefgib]

It's all coming together for Nikki. Competed in sport at a high level - tick. Coached in that sport - tick. Playing organised footy - tick. Eaten muffins in the Crow's boardroom with Fages - tick. Completed or undertaking AFL accredited coaching course - surely a tick.

I expect we'll be seeing Nikki on the TV at some time in the future. Knowing it's her will be the tricky bit.

I won't say a word.

Unless bribed.

 

[NikkiNoo]

I won't say a word.

Unless bribed.

You know what is best for you. So silent you shall stay

 

[NikkiNoo]

This is how "seriously" these women take their football. The opportunity to play isn't enough, if I can't play for the club I barrack for, well, see ya later folks.

And they expect us to pay to watch this. Ha.

It is not that she barracks for them so much, but that she is employed by them, has been for the past few years and is on a development track for her employment future. They will only be paid the maximum of 25k for a month of playing and having to train. How is she meant to pay the bills, Pete?

 

[conVINCEd]

Check out Sam Lane's from yesterday. The same day the AFL have their major announcement and advise the player acquisition system we get a player threatening to walk away from the game if they don't get to their club of choice. Why is this sense of entitlement accepted and in some cases encouraged?

The AFL is a full-time, year round, well-paid professional gig.

These women will be playing next year for around 8/10 weeks at the start of the year and even the very best players will only received $25,000.

You really think it is fair to say that female players should go into a draft and potentially end up having to move interstate to play?

You're being ridiculous if you think the exact same AFL draft rules should apply to the women's league as it is being established.

 

[NikkiNoo]

The AFL is a full-time, year round, well-paid professional gig.

These women will be playing next year for around 8/10 weeks at the start of the year and even the very best players will only received $25,000.

You really think it is fair to say that female players should go into a draft and potentially end up having to move interstate to play?

You're being ridiculous if you think the exact same AFL draft rules should apply to the women's league as it is being established.

It is also why Fremantle's bid got up as they will offer employment opportunities within the club and the local council or study options with Curtin University.

 

[Pdub]

Anyone else couldn't care less either way about having a women's team?...or a women's comp for that matter?

No one cares that you don't care about women's football, ignore it and move on, you don't need to let everyone know the things you're not interested in as the list would be infinite.

 

[crows dude]

Better off spending this money on an AFL Reserves comp

 

[1970crow]

It is not that she barracks for them so much, but that she is employed by them, has been for the past few years and is on a development track for her employment future. They will only be paid the maximum of 25k for a month of playing and having to train. How is she meant to pay the bills, Pete?

Two points;
1. As if her career at Melbourne will be derailed by training and playing at another club. It's no different a time imposition than she'd experience there, just a different location and guernsey. The AFL won't be uprooting people's lives for 4 weeks. If anything, the shortness of the season is a positive in terms of not effecting ordinary earnings/roles. I doubt this happened by accident.

2. As if she was going anywhere else anyway. And petulantly talking about walking away publicly is about the most counter-productive action she could have taken.

 

[footy4ever]

No one cares that you don't care about women's football, ignore it and move on, you don't need to let everyone know the things you're not interested in as the list would be infinite.

No one cares that you don't care that I don't care about womens football.

I asked a question to gauge other's interest or lack thereof, to see if anyone else felt the same way as me. That's not an offence.

 

[1970crow]

The AFL is a full-time, year round, well-paid professional gig.

These women will be playing next year for around 8/10 weeks at the start of the year and even the very best players will only received $25,000.

You really think it is fair to say that female players should go into a draft and potentially end up having to move interstate to play?

You're being ridiculous if you think the exact same AFL draft rules should apply to the women's league as it is being established.

Of course they're not being pushed interstate numpty, where have I said they would. There's four (4) teams playing out of Melbourne. The AFL are going to ensure that this is as fiscally economical as possible and that it works for as many possible players. Otherwise the standard drops if the best players can't commit to the season. This is why it's 4 weeks with an extra training commitment. Argue the point, it's welcome, but no need for illogical strawmen.

Now, just to make sure you understand, can you tell me how many Melbourne based teams there will be in the league next year? OK, you're up to speed. Now explain how playing for any of the other 3 Melbourne sides over a 6 week/$25k commitment would involve uprooting her life.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Two points;
1. As if her career at Melbourne will be derailed by training and playing at another club. It's no different a time imposition than she'd experience there, just a different location and guernsey. The AFL won't be uprooting people's lives for 4 weeks. If anything, the shortness of the season is a positive in terms of not effecting ordinary earnings/roles. I doubt this happened by accident.

2. As if she was going anywhere else anyway. And petulantly talking about walking away publicly is about the most counter-productive action she could have taken.

It's not just 4 weeks, there is also the pre-season training as well. For a first time team, there will be a lot more training you would think.

Working at another AFL club will not wash with training at a different AFL club. If she is drafted by another Victorian team, then she will have to resign her job. You think that it is fair to lose her job?

 

[Pdub]

No one cares that you don't care that I don't care about womens football.

I asked a question to gauge other's interest or lack thereof, to see if anyone else felt the same way as me. That's not an offence.

There's a lot of threads on this board, you have a big job ahead of you to find out who doesn't care about each subject.