Prediction Changes for Round 17 vs Fremantle

[The Dodger]

The bullshit emanating from the club this week is strong.

Luckily we should win this weekend, though if we don't, here come the pretzels.

...and Priddis has gone over to the crowd to plead for some kind of sanity...oh and a barrage of Pretzels have knocked Priddis out...this is a grim day for football folks.

 

[QS]

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/video/2017-07-14/the-day-juddy-got-booed-for-being-bog

Dem boos.

 

[Eaglespur]

I would rather Koby Stevens on our list now than Masten.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

In the past three seasons our best wins have come after injuries have forced structural changes, 2015 the poster child of that. Its such a joke, this MC is going they are going to have westcoast diehards hoping for injuries to our own players next.

Bit strong on the injuries piece - been through that and happy to draw a line and say let's cease that line.

What it probably says is that under a crisis, the club is pretty good reacting but not so strong leading and being proactive. To be proactive you need to have good leadership. Where do we think that will come from when we stick to the Nisbett model of leadership?

 

[Keys]

Does it? We have come up with Mutimer coming in as he has already debuted its less likely to mess with his chances of a further call up and he has already travelled to Melbourne so is likely to handle it a bit better if he was ever to be called on. I see not messing with the 1 young players form who has shown something and has already probably earned a call up in his own right as a priority especially as that area of the ground that he plays is in great need of help.

The only reason you mess with that knowing about the bye situation is if you are actually going to debut him.

Mutimers form was well below that of Partingtons in the 3 EP games preceding the Bulldogs match

 

[The Dodger]

Mutimers form was well below that of Partingtons in the 3 EP games preceding the Bulldogs match

Thats true. But from where they stand and this is just my opinion that they shouldn't have messed with the guy in form other than to give him a game at this stage of his career.

 

[Keys]

Oh, ok then lol

Anything to back up your claim that the Eagles get to dictate East Perths fixture to the WAFL then?

Sure EP have a bye coinciding with the Eagles AFL bye (same as Peel/Dockers) and Peel v EP games coincidence with derbies but beyond that there's little to suggest there's any preferential treatment given to EP

 

[frenchconnection]

That's selective rubbish.

Duggan, Nelson, Barrass, Sheed, Yeo, Lycett are all locks for our starting 22 when fit and healthy and under 25. Gaff, Darling, Cripps and McGovern were also under 25 this year when playing (oldest of that group is 25 and 2 months).

Cole and Karpany have played games this year as well, and right there.

Not saying we don't have some issues, but it's around a limited number at the top of age group. Petrie is only playing because of injuries, Priddis has been well covered, Mitchell is probably retiring at seasons end. Butler will be gone as well. LeCras hanging by a thread.

Could easily see Petrie -> JK this week, Priddis and Mitchell replaced by Parto and Veneables in near future, Butler by Cole, LeCras by Rioli, and all of a sudden we are young again. Of course it needs to actually happen, but it's not all doom and gloom.

However you need to give the up and coming players some exposure to the AFL before bringing them in permanently, as it takes time to get used to the increased tempo at AFL level.

 

[RookiePick]

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/video/2017-07-14/the-day-juddy-got-booed-for-being-bog

Dem boos.

Dat hair

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Anything to back up your claim that the Eagles get to dictate East Perths fixture to the WAFL then?

Sure EP have a bye coinciding with the Eagles AFL bye (same as Peel/Dockers) and Peel v EP games coincidence with derbies but beyond that there's little to suggest there's any preferential treatment given to EP

I didn't say they get preferential treatment, I said the fixture is designed to best work for the alignment. When the alignment was put in place the WAFC said they will work with Freo and West Coast to make sure the fixture suits the two AFL clubs as best they can. If you think the Eagles and a Dockers have no say in it then I am not going to try and convince you. Granted dictate was probably the wrong word. But you know as well as I do how much say the AFL clubs have in the running of the WAFC.

 

[Max zero]

WC will win and the MC will use it as justification of their team selection.

We will lose the week after.

 

[Biggie]

WC will win and the MC will use it as justification of their team selection.

We will lose the week after.

Nothing surer.

 

[Max zero]

Nothing surer.

Then Simpson will put the players on notice. Promises a shakeup.

Wellingham will come in for Masten. No other changes.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Looking at the AFL resignations, how about we propose Nisbett as AFL GM Commercial? Selection Committee may just fall for it?

 

[frenchconnection]

I feel like I'm only just starting to get to the angry stage. Earlier on I could see teams like Geelong and Adelaide also losing head scratching games, so was able to almost brush off the Essendon/Hawks games as anomalies.

Then after GC, Melb and Port, it has just started to look laughable, the lack of changes can't be blamed on injuries anymore or the excuse of bad WAFL scheduling. It's shit team selection, we know what's wrong and what needs fixing.

The crap about needing leadership and mature players is so out of whack, backed up by what we saw when we were fielding our "weak" team that flew to Melbourne and beat the dogs. The young players want to win, they are the ones who put their bodies on the line along with players like Petrie & Mitchell (both from other clubs), Sheppherd and sometimes Shuey (possibly injured imo).

Well I'm even past the angry stage - as much as I hate to say it I've almost got to the stage I don't care anymore!! Why out myself through this frustration when the coaches and/or MC just will not take any chances. As many have said we just need to START to bring in

Bit strong on the injuries piece - been through that and happy to draw a line and say let's cease that line.

What it probably says is that under a crisis, the club is pretty good reacting but not so strong leading and being proactive. To be proactive you need to have good leadership. Where do we think that will come from when we stick to the Nisbett model of leadership?

I also notice this in the playing group sometimes - they are more often than not playing reactive football, and not proactive which is what they should be doing. As much as I like Simmo and want him to succeed not sure he is the right coach for our Club. The thing is you have to find somebody better and therein lies the problem.

 

[avishka5]

Looking at the AFL resignations, how about we propose Nisbett as AFL GM Commercial? Selection Committee may just fall for it?

Need to get a young 20 year old girl that's keen on having a relationship with a rich 60year old. I don't think that would be too hard.

 

[frenchconnection]

Looking at the AFL resignations, how about we propose Nisbett as AFL GM Commercial? Selection Committee may just fall for it?

Wasn't Nisbett offered a job in the AFL system previously as 2IC, but knocked it back? I think it goes back to when AD was still Chairman, not sure.

 

[Keys]

I didn't say they get preferential treatment, I said the fixture is designed to best work for the alignment. When the alignment was put in place the WAFC said they will work with Freo and West Coast to make sure the fixture suits the two AFL clubs as best they can. If you think the Eagles and a Dockers have no say in it then I am not going to try and convince you. Granted dictate was probably the wrong word. But you know as well as I do how much say the AFL clubs have in the running of the WAFC.

Having a say is a fair bit different to dictating. I'm sure the other WAFL clubs have a say as well in terms of what they'd prefer although I acknowledge the alignment clubs probably get a bit more of a say than the others.

In the context of the discussion though do you really think the club wanted to have EPs byes lumped together like they were. Somehow I doubt it

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I didn't say they get preferential treatment, I said the fixture is designed to best work for the alignment. When the alignment was put in place the WAFC said they will work with Freo and West Coast to make sure the fixture suits the two AFL clubs as best they can. If you think the Eagles and a Dockers have no say in it then I am not going to try and convince you. Granted dictate was probably the wrong word. But you know as well as I do how much say the AFL clubs have in the running of the WAFC.

Didn't Gary Stokes come out with an article this week claiming this is wrong?

 

[Dark Sharks]

I can't recall ever seeing our fan base so upset before

Baring in mind i wasn't on social media or anything during the "Glory years" of 2008-2010, but it seems like even Joe Numpty on Facebook has had enough.

Chuck in the well timed "damage control" article by Stockesy and The Wests own reply article, and the cauldron is starting to bubble a little bit

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I can't recall ever seeing our fan base so upset before

Baring in mind i wasn't on social media or anything during the "Glory years" of 2008-2010, but it seems like even Joe Numpty on Facebook has had enough.

Chuck in the well timed "damage control" article by Stockesy and The Wests own reply article, and the cauldron is starting to bubble a little bit

I imagine 2008-10 was different, there was obviously problems then, and the clean out and re-set happened. The Club were upfront about it.

People are pissed now because the club is doing it's best Baghdad Bob impersonation.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Having a say is a fair bit different to dictating. I'm sure the other WAFL clubs have a say as well in terms of what they'd prefer although I acknowledge the alignment clubs probably get a bit more of a say than the others.

In the context of the discussion though do you really think the club wanted to have EPs byes lumped together like they were. Somehow I doubt it

It is not perfect but now they have no more for the rest of the year which should work well for both Parties. Just think its a long bow to draw to try and blame the WAFL for the Eagles downfalls.

 

[Keys]

It is not perfect but now they have no more for the rest of the year which should work well for both Parties. Just think its a long bow to draw to try and blame the WAFL for the Eagles downfalls.

I seem to be on my own with this opinion, but I don't think they were blaming the WAFL for their downfall

What I think they were trying to do is explain to supporters why some of the younger players were being overlooked, or at least one factor in why

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Partington should start asking to be traded, effective immediately.

Who could blame the kid

Not having a go and as much as I want Parto to get a game, I think this is a bit:


He really was only in AFL worthy form (by all accounts) somewhat recently and there is no doubt he should have come in ahead of Masten last time and we should give him a crack. But if a kid cracks the sh#ts that easily and wants to leave, after the club stuck by him through early injuries etc then he probably isn't the sort of player we need. I want to see him given a go sooner rather than later but it makes sense not to hold him over this week as an emergency (given he has missed recent games) and to get a WAFL game into him. No argument from me about certain other players who shouldn't be automatic inclusions etc but not sure it is asking for trade material yet from a guy who is just starting to string decent games together.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Need to get a young 20 year old girl that's keen on having a relationship with a rich 60year old. I don't think that would be too hard.

Its not, there's a website for it.

Also, isnt it funny how the women who were involved in the "inappropriate" relationships with these guys werent forced to resign despite working for the same industry..