Movie Star Wars: The Last Jedi. - THREAD PART 1 - *SPOILERS and RUMORS* - Cont. in Part 2

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Speaking of that gif, I wonder if we'll find out who the fck Lor San Tekka was

 

[edgie]

Speaking of that gif, I wonder if we'll find out who the fck Lor San Tekka was

File under Sifo Dyas, Maz Katanza

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[HahnPremium]

Speaking of that gif, I wonder if we'll find out who the fck Lor San Tekka was

I think in an early version of the script he was kind of a force stalker. He would make shrines, steal and scavenge jedi artefacts and create a non-conspicuous(lol) jedi temple all in the hope of banging a random female scavenger who may have force powers thus fulfilling his very long life desire to be a part of the force.
Thats why Kylo smirks at him commenting how old he'd become. All those years of trying to entrap force sensitive females without any success.
Stalkers existed a long long long time ago albeit then in a far technologically advanced galaxy. No need for snapchat when you could mindsnap with any random female in the galaxy. Lor San Tekka just sucked at it. Thus he created the temple or church of the jedi. To entrap.
He was a catholician wasnt he? Like you GG Im a bit unclear as to who he was and just joining a few dots and making a few assumptions.

 

[exe ex machina]

Via sleemo.tumblr.com;

"No, it wasn’t easy because there was such a long gap of unexplained activity. And then of course in VII it’s so enigmatic, when he turns around is he happy, is he suspicious, is he angry? When I read the screenplay I was shocked at how Rian decided to use Luke because I never expected that. Without giving anything away, in the trailer he says it’s time for the Jedi to end and that was a shock to me! Because Luke was always the most optimistic of all the characters, he believed so strongly and was so devoted to becoming a Jedi and following all the tenets that Obi-Wan and Yoda taught him, so it was difficult because it’s not Luke’s story anymore, it’s about Rey and the other new characters." -Mark

"In the two years since The Force Awakens, Luke’s meeting with Rey on Ahch-To has become one of the most talked about minutes in cinema history. What was going through the former saviour of the galaxy’s head when his potential new apprentice handed him the lightsaber he’d lost in The Empire Strikes Back? Not even Hamill knew at the time.
“[Director] JJ Abrams just said, turn around slowly, remove your hood…“ Hamill admits. “They were just going to run the camera for an extraordinary long period of time, and I thought I’m going to give them as much as I can, a range from bewilderment to suspicion to anger to doubt to great joy - I turned around one time and was so happy to see her! Then JJ could take what little puzzle piece he needed and do with it as he wanted. I wasn’t really sure what he wanted either. It wasn’t really specified, it was very enigmatic, for a reason, because I’m not sure they even really knew. It’s like a relay where they pass the torch, because JJ writes whatever he wants and then hands it off, then Rian [Johnson, Episode VIII director] writes up to the end of VIII and hands it over to IX without knowing where IX’s going to finish."

Rolling Stone: For his Force Awakens scene, he says, "I didn't know – and I don't think J.J. really knew – specifically what had happened in those 30 years. Honestly, what I did was try and give J.J. a range of options. Neutral, suspicion, doubt … taking advantage of the fact that it's all thoughts. I love watching silent films. Think of how effective they could be without dialogue."

These quotes don't seem to match up with this scene being a parental reveal... Hamill recalls his first reading of the script back in 2015 and a panicked call to Rian Johnson over what Hamill insists was a glaring inconsistency.
“There was something that happened at the end of The Force Awakens when I’m standing on the cliff,” he says. “I called Rian in a panic because it was all wrong. He said, ‘It’s okay, I spoke to J.J. and he’s taking that scene out.’ It just didn’t match up with what Rian had written.”

 

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[HahnPremium]

Via sleemo.tumblr.com;

"No, it wasn’t easy because there was such a long gap of unexplained activity. And then of course in VII it’s so enigmatic, when he turns around is he happy, is he suspicious, is he angry? When I read the screenplay I was shocked at how Rian decided to use Luke because I never expected that. Without giving anything away, in the trailer he says it’s time for the Jedi to end and that was a shock to me! Because Luke was always the most optimistic of all the characters, he believed so strongly and was so devoted to becoming a Jedi and following all the tenets that Obi-Wan and Yoda taught him, so it was difficult because it’s not Luke’s story anymore, it’s about Rey and the other new characters." -Mark

"In the two years since The Force Awakens, Luke’s meeting with Rey on Ahch-To has become one of the most talked about minutes in cinema history. What was going through the former saviour of the galaxy’s head when his potential new apprentice handed him the lightsaber he’d lost in The Empire Strikes Back? Not even Hamill knew at the time.
“[Director] JJ Abrams just said, turn around slowly, remove your hood…“ Hamill admits. “They were just going to run the camera for an extraordinary long period of time, and I thought I’m going to give them as much as I can, a range from bewilderment to suspicion to anger to doubt to great joy - I turned around one time and was so happy to see her! Then JJ could take what little puzzle piece he needed and do with it as he wanted. I wasn’t really sure what he wanted either. It wasn’t really specified, it was very enigmatic, for a reason, because I’m not sure they even really knew. It’s like a relay where they pass the torch, because JJ writes whatever he wants and then hands it off, then Rian [Johnson, Episode VIII director] writes up to the end of VIII and hands it over to IX without knowing where IX’s going to finish."

Rolling Stone: For his Force Awakens scene, he says, "I didn't know – and I don't think J.J. really knew – specifically what had happened in those 30 years. Honestly, what I did was try and give J.J. a range of options. Neutral, suspicion, doubt … taking advantage of the fact that it's all thoughts. I love watching silent films. Think of how effective they could be without dialogue."

These quotes don't seem to match up with this scene being a parental reveal... Hamill recalls his first reading of the script back in 2015 and a panicked call to Rian Johnson over what Hamill insists was a glaring inconsistency.
“There was something that happened at the end of The Force Awakens when I’m standing on the cliff,” he says. “I called Rian in a panic because it was all wrong. He said, ‘It’s okay, I spoke to J.J. and he’s taking that scene out.’ It just didn’t match up with what Rian had written.”

It all seems so.....
grey.

 

[glenferry23]

“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”

- Snoke of Oz.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

What if Snoke's "Fulfill your destiny" is him saying it to Luke?

Hamill said in an interview that the ‘this is not going to go how you think’ line is the most important thing that Luke says in the movie.

 

[exe ex machina]

Hamill said in an interview that the ‘this is not going to go how you think’ line is the most important thing that Luke says in the movie.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

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[exe ex machina]

We have broken down all the information around Finn, his costumes, trailers, etc, and arrived at this rough outline for him....

1-Finn is evacuated while still in a coma.
2-Finn wakes up, gets caught up to speeds, adjust to his injuries
3-He meets Rose during this time
4-Through Poe and Leia learns of the Resistance needing this "DJ" fellow and goes to Cantonica out of gratitude of being saved or because the destruction and vacuation of Resistance forces means there isn't someone else who cold do this for them or perhaps some other reason nknown to us at this point.
5-Goes to Cantonica/Canto Bight to look for DJ and, in any order stumbles into the casino, finds DJ, is arrested alongside Rose, is pursued in a chase scene, leaves the planet on DJ's ship.
6-Goes along with DJ and Rose to the Supremacy
7-Is captured, possibly betrayed, is scheduled to be executed in front of a mass number of people (perhaps his old squadron) by the Executioner
8-Some incident (planned or otherwise) causes chaos on board the ship allowing Finn to fight back, perhaps against the Executioner, definitely against Phasm.
9-Escapes with his life somehow
10-Meets up with the gang on Crait

That's the prediction we put together but obviously we won't know for sure until the movie comes out.

 

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[Mootsy]

bring on the release day already ..

 

[exe ex machina]

It's indicative that Rey and Kylo are fighting TOGETHER against Snoke's Pretorian Guards.

 

[Mootsy]

Hamill just described the film length as like "the godfather"...

 

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Snoke more powerful than Sidious....

 

[exe ex machina]

There is a person on Reddit attending the premiere. He will be doing a Q&A after watching the film.

So, in 8 days we will know it all.

 

[exe ex machina]

TLJ and the whole ST rests on this.

Is the ST a story based on Luke being a grand wizard on the "good" side, vying against a grand wizard on the "bad" side in Snoke, and both their apprentices (Kylo and Rey), caught in the melee, learning to hate each other and taking their fight thru the three movies? Where the good side beats out the bad in the end?

Is it only just that simple a story? Taking up that same old arc of the OT/PT?

Or, is the ST a story based on Luke and Snoke both being grand wizards who are both manipulating things in the galaxy for their own ends, or perhaps in cohort, and Kylo and Rey are therefore thrust into the picture more, realizing eventually they're both being manipulated, having to come together to stave off the wizards?

For the ST to break some ground, which by all reports TLJ does, then TLJ has to, being the middle of the trilogy, involve convoluted and complicated relationships between those main four characters (kylo, rey, luke, snoke). Machinations and double-crossing going on, mixed relationships. Kylo and Luke, Snoke and Rey, Luke and Snoke, Kylo and Rey.

I think TLJ, and the ST as a whole, is taking a turn where good and evil are being blurred, where these main new characters (Rey/Kylo) are at the forefront of the story, whether in romance or as siblings/cousins, having been manipulated by warriors/wizards of the olden times and the old ways, or realizing their old ways are no longer viable, and needing to pave a new way forward because the galaxy had fallen into a history repeats, the constant Sith vs Jedi philosophical differences being the center of turmoil in the galaxy for thousands of years.

So, such a more complex story will mean one or two much-loved OT characters (namely Luke) has to be re-envisioned, has to either fall to the dark side, or shown to be in league with Snoke. Something of that order. But not the same refrain of Luke vs Snoke as the gist of the ST, like Yoda vs Sidious in the OT/PT.

It can't be a simple good vs evil story, where there's a larger known "good" and a larger known "bad" character driving things. Instead, and especially for the fans, a story told where lines get blurred, previously liked characters are made a little more unlikeable, and previously disliked characters are made a little more likable, where hidden agendas are exposed, failings, more humanity, compassion and understanding going both ways, like Adam Driver said of TFA where Kylo is a villain but not from his perspective.

Bottom line, many fans I envision are going to be a little upset that the fantasy world of SW's gets a little more real, where certain OT characters lose some sheen....like Han and Leia broken marriage, failed raising a kid, Han a bad father, Luke a broken old man and/or with dark side machinations, and perhaps Leia too will be shown to have some poor characteristic in TLJ. Not destroying the OT characters, but certainly re-envisioning them all from the happy go lucky heroic and all "good" personalities we fell in love with them for in the fantastical world of the OT.

 

[exe ex machina]

“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”

- Snoke of Oz.

There's a little David Lynch in Rian Johnson. A little being best.

 

[JackOutback]

There is a person on Reddit attending the premiere. He will be doing a Q&A after watching the film.

So, in 8 days we will know it all.

Why would you want to know everything about the film before seeing it for yourself?

 

[exe ex machina]

Why would you want to know everything about the film before seeing it for yourself?

That's the way I am.

 

[Footypie32]

Via sleemo.tumblr.com;

"No, it wasn’t easy because there was such a long gap of unexplained activity. And then of course in VII it’s so enigmatic, when he turns around is he happy, is he suspicious, is he angry? When I read the screenplay I was shocked at how Rian decided to use Luke because I never expected that. Without giving anything away, in the trailer he says it’s time for the Jedi to end and that was a shock to me! Because Luke was always the most optimistic of all the characters, he believed so strongly and was so devoted to becoming a Jedi and following all the tenets that Obi-Wan and Yoda taught him, so it was difficult because it’s not Luke’s story anymore, it’s about Rey and the other new characters." -Mark

"In the two years since The Force Awakens, Luke’s meeting with Rey on Ahch-To has become one of the most talked about minutes in cinema history. What was going through the former saviour of the galaxy’s head when his potential new apprentice handed him the lightsaber he’d lost in The Empire Strikes Back? Not even Hamill knew at the time.
“[Director] JJ Abrams just said, turn around slowly, remove your hood…“ Hamill admits. “They were just going to run the camera for an extraordinary long period of time, and I thought I’m going to give them as much as I can, a range from bewilderment to suspicion to anger to doubt to great joy - I turned around one time and was so happy to see her! Then JJ could take what little puzzle piece he needed and do with it as he wanted. I wasn’t really sure what he wanted either. It wasn’t really specified, it was very enigmatic, for a reason, because I’m not sure they even really knew. It’s like a relay where they pass the torch, because JJ writes whatever he wants and then hands it off, then Rian [Johnson, Episode VIII director] writes up to the end of VIII and hands it over to IX without knowing where IX’s going to finish."

Rolling Stone: For his Force Awakens scene, he says, "I didn't know – and I don't think J.J. really knew – specifically what had happened in those 30 years. Honestly, what I did was try and give J.J. a range of options. Neutral, suspicion, doubt … taking advantage of the fact that it's all thoughts. I love watching silent films. Think of how effective they could be without dialogue."

These quotes don't seem to match up with this scene being a parental reveal... Hamill recalls his first reading of the script back in 2015 and a panicked call to Rian Johnson over what Hamill insists was a glaring inconsistency.
“There was something that happened at the end of The Force Awakens when I’m standing on the cliff,” he says. “I called Rian in a panic because it was all wrong. He said, ‘It’s okay, I spoke to J.J. and he’s taking that scene out.’ It just didn’t match up with what Rian had written.”

My take has always been that Luke knew that moment was coming, but perhaps he thought he had more time. He had a sense of dread because he knew the gravity of the moment and what was about to happen. He was unsure if he was ready for the task ahead.

 

[exe ex machina]

the cast just appeared on Jimmy Kimmell.

Johnson confirmed "the last jedi" is singular and refers to Luke
Hamill confirmed that Luke feels guilty for Ben's turning and for not being there for Ben more
Boyega confirmed there are many different sizes of Porgs, and that they infest the Millennium Falcon
The very first spoken word of the movie is "we're"

 

[exe ex machina]

the cast just appeared on Jimmy Kimmell.

Johnson confirmed "the last jedi" is singular and refers to Luke
Hamill confirmed that Luke feels guilty for Ben's turning and for not being there for Ben more
Boyega confirmed there are many different sizes of Porgs, and that they infest the Millennium Falcon
The very first spoken word of the movie is "we're"

 

[glenferry23]

Have always admired Hamill's passion, he really has a lot of energy. You can tell what this means to him. Have heard him speak before about that ruse from TESB's script, but that was great to hear the entire story in such depth here.