Review Bad, Ugly, and Horrendous vs Hawks

[Bicks]

yeah I don't disagree with that, but I feel it was more on our outside runners than our inside players

i.e. Gibbs and Atkins, Gibbs was putrid.

 

[Murray2503]

No they weren't, seriously i like Walsh as much as the next fan. But there is no need to try and rewrite history.

I remember it differently. I remember the previous year under sando our skills were deplorable.

 

[mattymac]

Bit Harsh on Matts game

Just wish Matt would go back to using his possessions. In 2017 he really had a Mitchell thing going on picking out a near target and hitting it by foot. So many hack kicks and turnovers now

 

[NTRabbit]

Matt, Brad, Gibbs, Knight, Atkins, Milera, Douglas, Murphy, Jacobs were all gash, even Laird turned it over way too much, after Sloane only Smith got close to a pass mark.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Tex is contributing less and less to the team with his bewildering and at times pathetic on ground efforts...time for him to spend 3 or 4 weeks back in the SANFL to try and regain some confidence in his ability to just play footy, let a lone captain the club....if this doesnt work he has no option but to retire as it appears that the pace of the modern day game has well and truly passed him by.

 

[Crows I Am]

Just wish Matt would go back to using his possessions. In 2017 he really had a Mitchell thing going on picking out a near target and hitting it by foot. So many hack kicks and turnovers now

Those little kicks he did that year to find targets was huge for us in 2017. He would clear the congestion and it set us up for so many of our attacking drives by finding an outside runner. Not sure why it has disappeared from his/our game.

 

[mattymac]

We needed to boss them on our home deck. Instead we were timid.

That for me is the AFC in a nutshell. We look a million bucks when things are on our terms. Always has been that way.

But only rarely do we stamp boss on a determined opposition. We tend more to panic or go into our shells.

We don't have that swagger or genuine self confidence. That's a difficult thing to change. Is that the personalities we recruit? Is that something in the culture?

Why is it that when Malcolm Blight came in and made an example of sacking a ream of senior players who were even local celebrities that that was the only time we've reached our potential?

 

[feenix67]

I feel it was absolutely our inside players - their inside players broke away from ours cleanly and effectively when they won possession, whereas the opposite was not in any way true. We really lacked the grunt, desperation, and size of Greenwood today.

Or Ellis-Yolmen...

We don't have pacy inside mids (except Sloane). We rely on the outlet. Our distribution out of contested situations was shite.

 

[NTRabbit]

Or Ellis-Yolmen...

We don't have pacy inside mids (except Sloane). We rely on the outlet. Our distribution out of contested situations was shite.

Outside of size, I don't really feel CEY brings the necessary tools to the table, he doesn't have the reach or ball reading of Greenwood that lets him negate stoppages that we're about to lose.

 

[Jarman3]

Let's party like it's 2018.

Not having a subscription to any of the appropriate servi9, I didn't actually watch any of the JLT games. But all reports I read said that we had our shit together and were ready to climb back up the ladder. So I walk into Adelaide Oval today looking forward to seeing some good footy. Instead it was like we didn't just have a 6 month off-season, it's more like this was just round 24 of 2018. It looked exactly the same, the same sh*t structure, the same game plan falling apart at the first suggestion of opposition pressure, just fumbling and panicked handballing until we find someone under marginally less pressure who can get away a panicked kick that goes straight to the 3 opposition players who are set up there waiting for it.

We don't even have the excuse of a heap of injuries and a ****ed up preseason camp this time, so what's the explanation?

If nothing else, the Collective Minds guys are probably feeling vindicated right now.

 

[Cap]

One thing, as a club, we do poorly (IMO very poorly) is move players on when clearly they aren't up to.

When I say good teams I mean the likes of Hawthorn, Sydney and West Coast - hell even Collingwood.

We appear to have a real issue moving on players.

 

[Scorpus]

Or Ellis-Yolmen...

We don't have pacy inside mids (except Sloane). We rely on the outlet. Our distribution out of contested situations was shite.

It's not helped by our consistently awful midfield structures (can I still blame Campo for that?)

Hawthorn structured up to win in close ground ball. So they had numbers around the pack waiting for a tap out or a spillage. When it became apparent the game was a scrap we didn't do the same, instead our guys floated around the packs contributing nothing.

And we still have the issue of our defensive midfield overcommitting players when the ball is being chipped around by the opposition, which both leaves plenty of opponents free and destroys our zone both defensively and offensively.

We also love to commit way too many players to marking situations around the fall of the ball. We'd often have 3-4 blokes going up and contributing zero when the ball misses them all and goes straight to the opposition

 

[Dc9798]

Looked to me today that our players got sucked into our pre-season hype. I’m really hoping the result was a very rude wake-up call. Never let the opposition dictate terms like that on your home deck, hope this doesn’t become a trend.


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[jackster83]

It's not helped by our consistently awful midfield structures (can I still blame Campo for that?)

Hawthorn structured up to win in close ground ball. So they had numbers around the pack waiting for a tap out or a spillage. When it became apparent the game was a scrap we didn't do the same, instead our guys floated around the packs contributing nothing.

And we still have the issue of our defensive midfield overcommitting players when the ball is being chipped around by the opposition, which both leaves plenty of opponents free and destroys our zone both defensively and offensively.

We also love to commit way too many players to marking situations around the fall of the ball. We'd often have 3-4 blokes going up and contributing zero when the ball misses them all and goes straight to the opposition

I still don't understand why Jacobs goes in to ruck contests deep inside our forward 50.

All our mids rush in too (leaving a ****ing massive hole in the centre of the ground).

 

[feenix67]

It's not helped by our consistently awful midfield structures (can I still blame Campo for that?)

Hawthorn structured up to win in close ground ball. So they had numbers around the pack waiting for a tap out or a spillage. When it became apparent the game was a scrap we didn't do the same, instead our guys floated around the packs contributing nothing.

And we still have the issue of our defensive midfield overcommitting players when the ball is being chipped around by the opposition, which both leaves plenty of opponents free and destroys our zone both defensively and offensively.

We also love to commit way too many players to marking situations around the fall of the ball. We'd often have 3-4 blokes going up and contributing zero when the ball misses them all and goes straight to the opposition

And you know what? All that comes down to a lack of focus, a lack of intensity and a lack of preparation. Unforgivable

 

[beagle2]

Bit Harsh on Matts game

40 possessions but only 16 kicks mostly short floaters. He doesn’t have any hurt factor

 

[jenny61_99]

Matt, Brad, Gibbs, Knight, Atkins, Milera, Douglas, Murphy, Jacobs were all gash, even Laird turned it over way too much, after Sloane only Smith got close to a pass mark.

Wtf?

 

[Mike Smyth]

I thought our much heralded half back line was terrible. They made some really bad mistakes early which saw them go completely into their shell.

There was zero drive and attack from there which resulted in slow movement, rushed kicks and increased pressure. It was just hard work moving the ball up the ground.

Its games like these where the lack of class really shows.

I actually don't blame the forwards for this one.
The half back line is where it broke down.

Pity our 2 quality half bank flankers were on wings.

 

[Tyls83]

Charles Cameron is better than any of our current forward line

 

[Dc9798]

Charles Cameron is better than any of our current forward line

How would have Charles gone with Adelaide’s delivery into the forward-line today?


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[Crowman32]

Charles Cameron is better than any of our current forward line

He's the one we badly miss.

 

[Coopers]

WHAT THE **** WAS THAT PILE OF SHIT.

My blow by blow account:
FUMBLE, FUMBLE, FUMBLE, KICK TO 3ON1 FUMBLE, FUMBLE, FUMBLE KICK TO OPPOSITION PLAYER 15M CLEAR
FUMBLE FUMBLE FUMBLE

Repeat for 2.5 hours.

 

[1achie]

Not rocking up is precisely the disease that infects this playing group, festering in the background to ruin your grand final

I'd love to know our record of wins/losses from 4pm twilight games. I suspect it would be under 20%.
The crowd always seems flat which then makes the team flat.

Of course the team should be mentally strong enough to get up anyway.

 

[hey shorty]

He's the one we badly miss.

I'll admit we miss him more than I thought....... BUT, the fact we are still trying the 2017 model is partially to do with it, actually it's not partial at all.

Have Jenkins up there, play Fog and use Lynch as the high forward. Eddie stays on the deck, Stengle comes in and sniffs around the packs and rest a midfielder who is strong overhead like Sloane or Greenwood.

We will never drop the captain but it has to happen.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Since when did knight become best 22? average player at best