Bluemour Melting Pot XX - Snark Free Zone

[Bamboo Harvester]

Does anyone know when the trade period starts?

 

[Kruezing]

Story goes that GC and Collingwood were discussing possible trade scenarios using GC's first rounder (ie. Pick 1 this season), and Adam Treloar's name was brought up by one party (not clear which). Both clubs were evidently open enough to the possibility that the prospect was run by Treloar himself, who promptly shut it down.

If I had to guess, I'd say GC approached Collingwood, asked about the chances of dealing Pick 1 for a senior midfielder, put Treloar's name on the table, and Collingwood weren't completely averse to the potential of a Treloar for Rowell deal.

I thought I'd read that these discussions took place late last year (ie. for GC's "future" first round pick), but it appears that's not the case. Reported to have been the second half of season 2019.

Maybe Treloar is miffed at the Collingwood list management team, but I don't think we'd have the currency to get the deal done. As much as Collingwood might have been interested if it was Rowell coming their way, I sincerely doubt they're as excited about Pick 9 plus our future pick (8-12?).

Treloar is a good player ... his best asset is his pace and ability to find the ball ... but he turns it over a lot too ... but he is the type we need ... high accumulating mid with pace ...

 

[spry]

Treloar won’t like LOB chasing him at training.


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[NavySteel]

Story goes that GC and Collingwood were discussing possible trade scenarios using GC's first rounder (ie. Pick 1 this season), and Adam Treloar's name was brought up by one party (not clear which). Both clubs were evidently open enough to the possibility that the prospect was run by Treloar himself, who promptly shut it down.

If I had to guess, I'd say GC approached Collingwood, asked about the chances of dealing Pick 1 for a senior midfielder, put Treloar's name on the table, and Collingwood weren't completely averse to the potential of a Treloar for Rowell deal.

I thought I'd read that these discussions took place late last year (ie. for GC's "future" first round pick), but it appears that's not the case. Reported to have been the second half of season 2019.

Maybe Treloar is miffed at the Collingwood list management team, but I don't think we'd have the currency to get the deal done. As much as Collingwood might have been interested if it was Rowell coming their way, I sincerely doubt they're as excited about Pick 9 plus our future pick (8-12?).

7 years of bad luck......

Treloar is #7, moved to the filth in ‘17 because of “better prospects” than Richmond... Richmond win GF in ‘17...

Filth lose to GWS to get in GF, with Richmond. Treloar could have played for either side in this year’s GF. That’s pretty bad luck....

 

[footyfan1978]

Does anyone know when the trade period starts?

Trade Transaction Period starts in about 4 days time... but 80% will happen on last day.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Treloar is a good player ... his best asset is his pace and ability to find the ball ... but he turns it over a lot too ... but he is the type we need ... high accumulating mid with pace ...

Not doubting that - just that Collingwood would accept Pick 9 and our future first for a bloke with a four year contract.

Pick 1 would have been a tempting carrot for GC to dangle, Rowell is apparently in a similar vein to Walsh (high production, super professional, ready to go). Pick 9 + future Pick 9? Not so much, that's a couple of speculative "good" players in those two drafts.

Maybe Treloar is good enough that we pay more?

But then we're talking about missing Papley AND Martin AND our future first for Treloar.

Or Papley AND our future first AND a player (ie. Casboult?).

That's a big price to pay, and whilst Treloar would help our midfield in a really big way, it would mean we go another year without addressing other pressing needs.

 

[Manhattanite]

Perhaps... But i'd think it's a real kick in the teeth from your own club where you feel as though you are in the top 5 but they're still willing to fish you about.

I'd be upset.

More than upset he would be very anxious given his challenges with anxiety. I know I shouldn’t joke about it but it’s a bit amusing that the club most famous for choking - the one which has lost the most grand finals and finals in total - recruits the young gun with anxiety and performance issues who did end up going missing in the prelim etc.




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[Stamos]

Does anyone know when the trade period starts?

Next Wednesday apparently

 

[Forty3]

My guess is Sloane. I know he approached Richmond for a trade last year, but the tigers couldn’t fit him in their salary cap. Good mates with Eddie, big fan of Teague.

 

[SHOWEY]

7 years of bad luck......

Treloar is #7, moved to the filth in ‘17 because of “better prospects” than Richmond... Richmond win GF in ‘17...

Filth lose to GWS to get in GF, with Richmond. Treloar could have played for either side in this year’s GF. That’s pretty bad luck....

Good sleuthing
Don't see how 9 or a future first gets it done unless we move both and then no Paps or Martin
Player would have to be traded.

 

[Kruezing]

Not doubting that - just that Collingwood would accept Pick 9 and our future first for a bloke with a four year contract.

Pick 1 would have been a tempting carrot for GC to dangle, Rowell is apparently in a similar vein to Walsh (high production, super professional, ready to go). Pick 9 + future Pick 9? Not so much, that's a couple of speculative "good" players in those two drafts.

Maybe Treloar is good enough that we pay more?

But then we're talking about missing Papley AND Martin AND our future first for Treloar.

Or Papley AND our future firs AND a player (ie. Casboult?).

That's a big price to pay, and whilst Treloar would help our midfield in a really big way, it would mean we go another year without addressing other pressing needs.

I would not be paying two firsts for Treloar but that’s just my opinion ...

 

[carlton_99]

I understand the drama around this big fish, but wouldn't people just prefer us get deals done for Papley and Martin, who have both publicly nominated us. If it was the case we were in for another big player they would demand lots of picks and we would end up losing one of these two targets (or even both). Not sure if the look is good if we dont bring across players that want to get to the club (which hasn't happened in a while)

 

[Faz 2000]

Sloane is sexy, but surely too old for us unless he comes cheap.

 

[footyfan1978]

My guess is Sloane. I know he approached Richmond for a trade last year, but the tigers couldn’t fit him in their salary cap. Good mates with Eddie, big fan of Teague.

Would fit the bill of gun and given the unknowns of Crows with no coach, he would be well within his rights to express I want to change clubs if he not happy with how landscape has changed for him in last few months.

 

[The Ian PrenderCast]

I don't get all the cloak and dagger BS. Its a footy fan forum, If you have some info whats the point in being cryptic about it? The whole 'if you only knew what I knew' or 'everything will be revealed' angle is tiresome.

 

[Blue__Balls]

My guess is Sloane. I know he approached Richmond for a trade last year, but the tigers couldn’t fit him in their salary cap. Good mates with Eddie, big fan of Teague.

Oh man...the Crows board would lose their collective minds.

 

[Benaly28]

This is why the trade period needs to be shortened.

 

[mochacinolatte]

I wouldn't mind Sloanedog.

 

[ESKIE]

It’s the inter webz that the whole world can see....

 

[footyfan1978]

I understand the drama around this big fish, but wouldn't people just prefer us get deals done for Papley and Martin,

We had not a deal by other club that we can agree to so it is wise to look at a bigger fish if it all of a sudden shows up.
If Shuey or Sloane were all of a sudden wanting to get here, I would make that a bigger priority of previous Papley priority.
Even if young Caldwell was a realistic hope I'd even grab him before Papley if it is easier to do as a trade.

 

[Blue_Steel89]

Jeez I'd love it if it was Duncan from the cats. A genuine gun who is goes under the radar due to Selwood, danger, Ablett, etc... But he is such a good user of the footy, tackles and kicks goals.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I don't get all the cloak and dagger BS. Its a footy fan forum, If you have some info whats the point in being cryptic about it? The whole 'if you only knew what I knew' or 'everything will be revealed' angle is tiresome.

Possible reasons:

- the poster may not know the name, they might be relaying the same thing they've been told (gun mid, will come to light soon).
- the poster may know but have been told not to make the name public, and they're within their right to honour that confidence, especially if they want their source to continue sharing info in future.

 

[carlton_99]

We had not a deal by other club that we can agree to so it is wise to look at a bigger fish if it all of a sudden shows up.
If Shuey or Sloane were all of a sudden wanting to get here, I would make that a bigger priority of previous Papley priority.
Even if young Caldwell was a realistic hope I'd even grab him before Papley if it is easier to do as a trade.

True, but our ITK's have been adamant that the Papley and Martin trades will get done, just not sure what we would have left to offer a big play (like Gaff etc). Hopefully SOS can pull off something ridiculous

 

[Blue__Balls]

Damien Barrett: Carlton have Picks 9, 41 and 46 - I just don't see how they can get both Papley and Martin with just those picks.


Gee Damo...it's probably relevant that clubs can trade future picks, eh?

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Does anyone know when the trade period starts?

Next Wednesday morning