So what is incredible about the show foscu on a trans teen then?
Is it?
Absolutely. I need to tread water if I use the obvious he or she and then someone gets offended because I (correctly) pick their gender. It will change the lives of my children, nieces and nephews because they don't understand it will grow up in a world where basic simple correct things around sex become more vague and confusing. I'm scared of the inevitable day when freaks start entering female toilets and changerooms because they "identify" as females and people are too scared to challenge them.
Sure, there is a lot to say about biological sciences, and the ever increasing rejection of science.
How much does it cost you to make that small gesture? If that's all it takes to make someones life a little brighter, why not oblige ffs.
There was a chick in Ship to Shore I was nuts for ... Jodi something? Anyway I'm pretty sure Hermes Andakis was already trans.
How will it change the lives of your children? Do you think it's infectious?
I don't see that happening tbh.
We already allow people to deny science on the basis of their religious belief with near impunity. Just look at our political leaders and Folau/Court.
Tbf, I don't think that's the main fear.
How do you see it playing out? I think the threat is being massively overstated and easily countered.
We don't fully know what harm puberty blockers and the like can do, but the preliminary evidence isn't promising.
That remains to be seen, but I would say they will become more significant over time, that's generally how things begin, smaller issues that escalate over time. My judgement isn't clouded, I have my views, because they differ to others why are my views considered clouded? To be deliberately provocative here, you are asking if I am clouded but a male believing he is a female and choosing not to be a male is not considered to have clouded judgement?
You are putting out several different topical issues that each have a different response and discussion points, so I can't lump them all together.
I have no doubt that the vast, vast majority of transgender people are in the average socially functioning people who are not any more or less dangerous than others. I also believe that there will be a small few who will abuse this situation, and use these circumstances to do horrible things. Is it over reactionary? Probably, until it inevitably happens and someone gets hurt or violated.
Principles of science? Absolutely, to a degree. If said person is a he, and asks to be called a she, why would I? If they asked to be called a King, why would I? If they asked to be called a doctor, why would I? If they asked to be called a dolphin, why would I? Why should I deny the principles of science because someone else wants to deny them? In all honesty, I probably would just not refer to them as a pronoun at all, I would refer to them by name and have no issues with it, but I shouldn't be told to use pronouns that don't apply, and punished if I don't.
What? That's a completely different example and in no way comparable. Firstly, a name is a completely choice based identifier. There is no biological basis for a name. If I had a pronunciation issue I would try to correct it, I have no reason not to, I am not denying any personal values, views or scientific principles by calling someone "Jerry" instead of the correct "Gerry".
There are a lot of things I could say that might make someones day brighter, and I might choose to in some cases. But I shouldn't have to or be punished if I don't, particularly when my views are backed by the science of human biology. In all honesty I would likely just refer to the individual by name.
Who's punishing you?
No need to be patronizing. You know quite well how social standards can change the lives of societies, communities and individuals. I've already given a few examples of how it might change their lives in future, and there would be more.
Sure okay you don't. But it will, at some point, and everyone will say it won't ever happen until it does. There are unfortunately a lot of messed up people in the world in regards to sexual violators, or perves, pedophiles etc. While 99% of the trans community probably aren't these things, some messed up people will use this situation to do those things. How would you feel if it was your child/relative that was the eventually victim?
Some people do sure, why do I need to?
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here? I have political views that align with the right, the left, and in between depending on what the topic is.
Stop looking at the individual and look at the community issue. There is a bloke called Jordan Peterson who was in an entire battle with his employer because he didn't want to be mandated to use pronouns even though he said he would. These issues will likely only become more frequent over time in this PC compliant world. I stated earlier, I now need to be careful if I use correct pronouns and someone gets offended. It's a slippery slope.
Not trying to be provacative at all.
Thanks for your response, and I think I agree with most of that.
Absolutely. No demographic is perfect. And we need to be careful of the actual predators.
That's an interesting concept.
I like that. That's a very logical way to go about it, and it seems it would satisfy most people.
Good point.
