Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

[The Old Dark Navy's]

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[reubs1066]

We can't even get our forwards to kick 38 goals in a season, let alone a repurposed winger...

he kicked14 this year, 1 more than Betts and I have no doubt Betts got far worse delivery and he would have given off a lot more goal assists...

 

[katmanblue]

That better be chicken salt!

No doubt.

 

[BluesTragic]

It has been suspiciously quiet. Feel like this trade period, like most, has a massive move in it that hasn’t yet been spoken about. Seems like the status quo for the high profile types (Oliver, Wines etc.) is to stay dead quiet until there’s at least a chance that the clubs will deal.

Don’t hold your breath if we’re gifting our first rounder to Dodo for Adam Saad

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Adam Saad

Age

29

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

 

[Jeremias]

That would depend on how we recruit. We can't keep on trading-in/drafting the same type of players we were hoping some of our draftees would become whist ignoring our other needs or ignoring pure talent. Dow was the new SPS, Walsh was the new Dow and so on... Walsh is great but is 'perhaps not the midfield bull we need'; it just keeps going on and on... I'd trade one of the former two (as well as O'Brien) before I gave away a first round draft pick, put it that way.

You feeling OK?

 

[HereComesJuddy]

If it were a Menegola type I’d agree. If it were Dunstan then they may as well pack their bags

No. I don't agree. Dunstan goes alright. Big bodied mid. Gives Dow and Stocker another year. This year wasn't friendly to our younger kids trying to break into the team.

If it's Dunstan and he costs very little, I think it's a good move.

 

[The Bighouse]

Menegola would be interesting

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

If we get anyone from the Saints I hope it’s Brad Hill. Hasn’t really fit in with their style of play. We could exchange some players and help both clubs out.

Doesn't fit in a with a fast ball movement game plan ... go figure.

 

[passmark]

I like Menegola.

Calm and dependable.

Bring him in.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

If we trade 7 for saad we should be looking to try and trade back into the first round. Cos otherwise we won’t be able to trade 2 firsts next year when Oliver nominates Us officially

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

No. I don't agree. Dunstan goes alright. Big bodied mid. Gives Dow and Stocker another year. This year wasn't friendly to our younger kids trying to break into the team.

If it's Dunstan and he costs very little, I think it's a good move.

Agree that it was a tough year for our youngsters, no chance I’m agreeing to a C grader coming in to play mid though...

 

[jelly]

Stephenson is 188 cm.

Same as Boner

 

[SurreyBlue]

Cats would want a late first, early second for Menegola.

#8, #27 and #45 for Menegola, #15 and #37 works for me. Bombers get #15 for Saad.

We get another B+ midfielder, get Saad and retain next year's 1st rounder in a stronger draft, and enter the draft at #37.

In effect we give up our first rounder, our third rounder and downgrade our second rounder to get Menegola and Saad through the door. I'd do it.

Since when is Saad worth more then Manegola? I’m definitely missing something.

 

[Brutalitops]

he kicked14 this year, 1 more than Betts and I have no doubt Betts got far worse delivery and he would have given off a lot more goal assists...

Dunno qbout that. Have you seen Treloars kicking?

 

[zeeCFC]

Including Williams and Gibbons upgrade to the senior list - and assuming lists become 38-4, we are currently at 36 on the senior list with Polson, Kennedy and Macreadie uncontracted.

Considering we must take two draft picks minimum (+ Gibbons upgrade), we will need to move players out to fit Saad in, let alone another player.

Get a feeling Macreadie is kept for depth, while Pols and Kennedy move on. Can't see us taking a Dunstan or similar type unless we trade Kennedy and SOS.

 

[myblueroan]

I’m not sure C graders exist. They’re delisted pretty quick.
Lists can’t carry them.

Well all the D-grading comments probs weigh 'em down
And they just
D- flate.

 

[DangerousD]

Ok, So he was around 21 at the time of the trade, but no one would of labelled him "talented".. The talent was seen, and arrived much much later. Maybe theres a lesson there when we think of handling Paddy Dow

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Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

in a similar manner.

Agree on the lesson, give Dow and O’Brien another year minimum, Sydney obviously saw talent though, otherwise they wouldn’t have picked him.

 

[DangerousD]

That was a very different situation though. I wouldn't use that as an equivalent.

What makes you think it’s different? He was down the pecking order at the Hawks and they didn’t see a spot for him going forward.

 

[Hands On]

I’m not sure C graders exist. They’re delisted pretty quick.
Lists can’t carry them.

We have a few on our list.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Since when is Saad worth more then Manegola? I’m definitely missing something.

Age really. Menegola is 28. He was also a late bloomer so doesn't have the consistency of Saad. Cats fans suggest a late first, early second is his value right now.

 

[Arr0w]

Nick Austin saying saad and Williams were our main priority and that’s where our focus was. i have conceded we won’t get oliver. I believe he has told us he wants to come but we don’t have the trade capital imo and melbs won’t let him go without replacing him with another quality player

I think we have trade capital, but I doubt Demons release him

 

[blue healer]

no - but I want to play for carlton, ok?

Perhaps we have a snooker team you can break into.

 

[Treesloth]

Don’t hold your breath if we’re gifting our first rounder to Dodo for Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

29

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

If we’re doing that Austin can hand in his keys. You don’t give low first round picks for uncontracted back flankers.

Unsure why this notion of our current first for Saad is rationalised/normalised. Only Essendon think that’s reasonable. The rest of the world knows it’s overs and won’t happen.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Menegola will be 29 before the start of next season

Personally, Id rather split 8 and 28 into 15 and 18 and come away with Saad and Jed Anderson

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Jed Anderson

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

.

Jed adds some much needed midfield toughness while at the same time not compensating for agility.

 

[Stamos]

What makes you think it’s different? He was down the pecking order at the Hawks and they didn’t see a spot for him going forward.

Well, he was a FS, not a 1st rounder. Swans offered him a 3 year deal, and he requested a trade. He couldn't fit in at the Hawks, because they already had quite a few slower inside (premiership winning) mids.
The Carlton equivalent for Kennedy would be Jack (or arguably Kennedy). Not a Dow/LO'B/Samo/Stocker.

They also traded him for pick #39, which they used on Sam Grimley, who managed 3 games for the Hawks, and then 4 for *

 

[HBF]

I’m disappointed no one really bought up zac Williams used to barrack for carlton as a kid. I’m just finding out

Had no idea......