Bluemour Melting Pot XXIX

[CJMB]

Guess that means Betts is finished at Carlton

Well, he's a good chance to finish up this year anyway

 

[Coops93]

Well, he's a good chance to finish up this year anyway

Probably won't stay on in the long talked about mentor/leadership role post career.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Maybe, but Don Pyke comes from impeccable stock. His late father pioneered academic physical education studies in WA. His course drew in David Parkin (who coached Subiaco while in Perth), Brian Cook (ex WCE and Geelong) and Trevor Nisbett (long-standing WCE CEO)

Brett Burton and Andrew Fagan were worse at Adelaide in 2017.

interesting anyway. . .

He did very well at the Crows. Sydney's form this year is no fluke.

 

[CoachB]

Sydney's form is more about excellent drafting than Pyke. The kids they recruited came in on day 1 and made the team a whole lot better.
Kudos to Pyke he has added a more attacking element to an already rock solid game plan.
CB

 

[Arr0w]

Question would be, Pyke as Senior Coach or a senior assistant to Teague for 2022

Covers all bases

If it's a replacement, prefer Brad Scott

 

[RoyalBlues]

Question would be, Pyke as Senior Coach or a senior assistant to Teague for 2022

Covers all bases

If it's a replacement, prefer Brad Scott

Additional

 

[thylacine60]

Dont be Pykers good people....................

Sick and tired of people bullying quiz masters off the site. If you think their clues are total crap, just ignore them. So much bullying.

 

[Wickzki]

Sydney's form is more about excellent drafting than Pyke. The kids they recruited came in on day 1 and made the team a whole lot better.
Kudos to Pyke he has added a more attacking element to an already rock solid game plan.
CB

Excellent drafting, sure. But drafting isn't the be-all, end-all.

Best development system in the game, definitely.

Every Sydney player is given a definable role very early on. Everything that they do is measurable. They are coached to perform those roles.

When they go into the AFL team they are not only aware of what is expected of them but they are prepared.

This positions even the lesser skilled/talented players to succeed.

 

[thylacine60]

Yep

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Question would be, Pyke as Senior Coach or a senior assistant to Teague for 2022

Covers all bases

If it's a replacement, prefer Brad Scott

You'd wonder why he'd move states after only a year with the Swans to assume the same role in Melbourne. If there is substance to the rumour I would think it's for the senior gig. Could Teague step down and become assistant? Would be a first but I get the impression Teague's ego wouldn't get in the way.

 

[Gavstar]

He did very well at the Crows. Sydney's form this year is no fluke.

He left at the end of a review exactly like one we are conducting now, the findings of which are confidential.

Sounds like another of Lloyd and Liddle's genius thought bubbles.

 

[Arr0w]

You'd wonder why he'd move states after only a year with the Swans to assume the same role in Melbourne. If there is substance to the rumour I would think it's for the senior gig. Could Teague step down and become assistant? Would be a first but I get the impression Teague's ego wouldn't get in the way.

It could be the appointment to cover both bases. Pyke comes in on good $$$ as senior assistant, for the last year of Teague's contract. If things go pear shaped, he steps straight in and has a working knowledge of the players and club

Seems a messy arrangement though

 

[Revenant1995]

I am just absolutely guessing here, but my guess is that we will have all sorts of rumours at this time that may have origins from maybe someone simply 'shooting the breeze', especially given the current review.

For example, someone might innocently say something along the lines "Now what do you think might happen if 'X' had this position?" One person hears it as a hypothetical to reflect on a situation (eg, 'What do you think 'X' might do if 'X' was in this position?'). Another might hear it as an actual proposal that 'X' is getting that position.

I am really grateful for those who post various rumours on this thread. But sometimes I will take a more ambivalent approach. I think there is still some water to flow under the bridge...

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

could involve what some would say is a ‘backflip’

Malthouse returns? Woooooooooo



.... Wait

 

[koutaaa]

If Teague is staying I’d love Lyon as a senior assistant etc. Teague attack would benefit from Lyons defensive tactics...
Don’t really want Lyon as head coach purely for his boring and defensive style

 

[Kruezing]

So Pyke … he’ll have the players singing our own theme song all pre season …

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Why does no body repost rumours in the Rumour thread? This thread sometimes goes too fast and I miss the juicy goodness.

 

[Wickzki]

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Don’t really want Lyon as head coach purely for his boring and defensive style

This is the most overblown take out there.

Ask the Saints players how defensive Lyon's gameplan is when they averaged close to 100 points per game.

Ross only really went defensive when he lacked the cattle to outgun opposition teams. He then went defensive because he recognised it gave his teams the greatest likelihood of winning.

Give me the best, most adaptable, coach available. If that's Teague then it's Teague. If that's Ross then give me Ross.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

This is the most overblown take out there.

Ask the Saints players how defensive Lyon's gameplan is when they averaged close to 100 points per game.

Ross only really went defensive when he lacked the cattle to outgun opposition teams. He then went defensive because he recognised it gave his teams the greatest likelihood of winning.

Give me the best, most adaptable, coach available. If that's Teague then it's Teague. If that's Ross then give me Ross.

Freo averaged 88 or so in 2012, 93 in 2013 and 92 in 2014.

Oh so dour....

 

[Kernafides]

Season is over let's have a look at Honey and Ramsay instead of Fog or Newnes....even throw Carrol in...let's mix things up instead of going through the same old motions

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Why does no body repost rumours in the Rumour thread? This thread sometimes goes too fast and I miss the juicy goodness.

Cue ferrisb

 

[Gavstar]

So Pyke … he’ll have the players singing our own theme song all pre season …

Power stances....

Its ok he's thinking about the Pies job..... we wouldn't take a Pies reject would we..... oh wait.

 

[katmanblue]

No-where else really to post this, but it is quickly becoming apparent just how much of a lost opportunity this season is. We started behind the 8-ball, haven't got our team fit or our structures right, and managed to go 0-9 vs the good teams in the comp despite having some really great chances to knock them off.

Yet now looking at the ladder, as of this weekend it's likely Freo will be in 8th spot on 8-8 with a % of 97. West Coast will be 7th on a very shaky 9-7 and 95%

Incredibly, our season still isn't done. 11-11 and a percentage of 105 will potentially get a finals spot. We have games against Collingwood, North and GC (in Melbourne) that should be easy wins. We then play St Kilda and GWS (in Melb) and wins in both of those would likely put us into 8th IMO. Port is the other match, and we go generally have a good crack against them.

And yet... we all know it won't happen. We'll probably lose to Collingwood this week then end up playing out the chain to avoid the bottom 4. If we win that, we'll drop the game against St Kilda in 3 weeks. Our record in winnable games when aiming for 3 wins in a row is (if I remember correctly) roughly 0-328 over the past decade and I can already see our half-time scoreline of 2.13 vs 6.2 in that match from here.

Just looking back, had we shown up for the season on time and beaten Collingwood in round 2, then managed to eke out two wins from the winnable games we had: WCE (neutral venue), Port (in Melb), Bris (in Melb), Geelong (in Melb), GWS (in Sydney but shaky as anything), Sydney (in Sydney, but young and shaky), or even Richmond (shaky all year) the narrative would just be so, so different. We would be in 7th spot with a tail-wind on the run home, and feasibly lining up against Port in round 22 with a TOP 4 SPOT on the line.

And really, the only difference from that reality to our current one is a) showing up to the season fit, on time, and ready enough to actually play well in rounds 1-2, and b) not crapping the bed every single time we have a winnable game against a good team. Seriously - the talent is there. The gameplan and structures have been there. We just don't show up when it matters.

It means this is probably the third biggest waste of a year in my lifetime. The only two I can remember as worse are:
- 1994. Top 4 spot, completely crapped our pants in the finals for a straight sets exit, including losing to Geelong's reserves team
- 2012. Top of the ladder after 3 rounds and playing exhilirating football. A couple of early injuries against the Dank Bombers and we collapsed mentally and finished on 11-11, sacked Ratten, and pretty much imploded as a club.

These wasted years are club-defining IMO. Once in my lifetime we looked inward, learnt and grew, and steam-rolled teh competition for a flag the following year. Once, we imploded, looked outward, and haven't recovered since. I know there is a review on, but so, so much here sits on the coaching staff IMO. Teague is an excellent (imo) tactical coach. But that's not what coaching is about - that's the easy part. Preparation, motivation, mindset - those are the hard parts of coaching, and we've crapped teh bed in all those areas this year. I just hope we can emulate 1995 rather than 2012...

Percentage won't go up because team doesn't know how to put the foot down.

 

[katmanblue]

One person's dream is another person's nightmare.

You could be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I, don't want to wake up from you
Sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Somebody pinch me, your loves to good to be true
My guilty pleasure I ain't going no where
Baby long as you're here
I'll be floating on air cause you're my
You can be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I, don't want to wake up from you

 

[katmanblue]

Walsh, Weiters and Stocker have confidence....

Do they have confidence in their teammates?