Strategy What to do with pick 1 now we’ve got it - Do We Need Reid or is it Curtins

[Dylan82]

I've had enough of all of these kents already.

Nothing would satisfy me more right now than drafting H.Reid and watch him kick a bag against the tin-rattlers.


And anyone else wanting to entertain splitting the pick in this massively compromised draft needs to give themselves an uppercut as well.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Said this a couple of times before but we won’t get the Suns pick unless someone acquires it for us and it’s part of a trade for pick one or alternatively we offer up our future first.

A handful of lower picks isn’t what the suns will want. Yet I’m sure we will read another 1000 times how we can trade 35,39, 53 & 55 for pick 4 because it’s worth X amount more points and we won’t bid on Walter and it’s a great deal for the Eagles.

We might also get a decade of posters writing Curtain and Hewitt

So why not just trade out future first?

 

[Free Agent]

Trading away Reid for a bunch of picks reminds me of a slow kid trading his tiny $2 coin for a 3 or 4 big shiny 20c coins.

They're bigger!
They're shinier!
There are more of them!
20 is a bigger number than 2!

Hahah love it. Best Comment of the off season period so far.

 

[CountryLad]

So why not just trade out future first?

I’d actually be happy with that if it nets us one of McKercher or Curtin.

I see it being even more difficult next year if we hold a top 1-5 (very likely) pick and the top of the draft is predominantly Vic Metro kids. Sid Draper (SA) might be off the board before our pick.

Curtin is a good prospect and a safer option (homesickness) or McKercher being a quality midfielder possibly being available now so why wait 12 months for a quality midfielder.

Possibly comes down to where Watson drops on the draft board and the McKay compensation.

 

[bzparkes]

Please reread the last 50 pages

I have.

People pushing for a pick swap don't seem to realise that the likely outcome is we miss one of Reid, Curtin, McKercher or Duursma and are left with Caddy & Watson(2 big flight risks) as the next in line, talent-wise.

Then, the mid teens of the draft is full of KPPs, unless we reach for someone not as highly rated.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

It’s pretty hard to find a single person I know who believes West Coast will keep pick1.

Lots to play out, but the prevailing view is we will trade the pick, and that includes what Harley’s family think will happen.

The prevailing view here in Melbourne circles is not that we will trade him, quite the opposite. So much so, the work being done behind the scenes to convince us to do so is huge.

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[TerryFilk]

Said this a couple of times before but we won’t get the Suns pick unless someone acquires it for us and it’s part of a trade for pick one or alternatively we offer up our future first.

A handful of lower picks isn’t what the suns will want. Yet I’m sure we will read another 1000 times how we can trade 35,39, 53 & 55 for pick 4 because it’s worth X amount more points and we won’t bid on Walter and it’s a great deal for the Eagles.

We might also get a decade of posters writing Curtain and Hewitt

Promising not to bid on Walter, pick 19, Port’s 2nd and our future 2nd could get it done in my opinion. Not saying it definitely would by any means but I don’t think it’s a bad offer at all, once factoring in us not bidding on Walter I believe it’s more points wise than say the Dogs offering their 2 1sts, but this is a risk for the Suns as I’m assuming our future 2nd is 19-21.

 

[TerryFilk]

For those who would be happy with a pick swap, present what likely picks would be involved in such a scenario and the players rated around said picks.

I’ve noticed people love saying “trade Reid for 3 1st round picks” then when you ask them what players we should target, it’s usually crickets.

Not giving up Reid for Watson or Duursma, Wilson and Tholstrup or some bullshit like that lol.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Reid is the exact tonic that we need.

I think trading the pick would be utter madness. Not interested in Godfather offers - just pairing Reid with Kelly, Hewett and Ginbey.

 

[9494]

I have.

People pushing for a pick swap don't seem to realise that the likely outcome is we miss one of Reid, Curtin, McKercher or Duursma and are left with Caddy & Watson(2 big flight risks) as the next in line, talent-wise.

Then, the mid teens of the draft is full of KPPs, unless we reach for someone not as highly rated.

Correct... we will get one of them but will be left with Caddy n Watson.
Lets not take the risk.
Reid will be our new franchisee player.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I’d actually be happy with that if it nets us one of McKercher or Curtin.

I see it being even more difficult next year if we hold a top 1-5 (very likely) pick and the top of the draft is predominantly Vic Metro kids. Sid Draper (SA) might be off the board before our pick.

Curtin is a good prospect and a safer option (homesickness) or McKercher being a quality midfielder possibly being available now so why wait 12 months for a quality midfielder.

Possibly comes down to where Watson drops on the draft board and the McKay compensation.

Exactly, this seems to be the draft to load up in but not at expense of potentially the best kid in years. Trade our future first for GC pick 4, take Reid, whichever of Mckercher/Curtin are available, see what offers we get for pick 19 and look for a KPD if we don't get Curtin, fill some other gaps with the other several picks we have and potentially trade our later picks for Dev/Brockman.

I have.

People pushing for a pick swap don't seem to realise that the likely outcome is we miss one of Reid, Curtin, McKercher or Duursma and are left with Caddy & Watson(2 big flight risks) as the next in line, talent-wise.

Then, the mid teens of the draft is full of KPPs, unless we reach for someone not as highly rated.

I'm convinced the people who are saying we should trade it actually don't have any idea what they're talking about and haven't looked into the reality of what that would mean.

 

[DanWCE]

I’d actually be happy with that if it nets us one of McKercher or Curtin.

I see it being even more difficult next year if we hold a top 1-5 (very likely) pick and the top of the draft is predominantly Vic Metro kids. Sid Draper (SA) might be off the board before our pick.

Curtin is a good prospect and a safer option (homesickness) or McKercher being a quality midfielder possibly being available now so why wait 12 months for a quality midfielder.

Possibly comes down to where Watson drops on the draft board and the McKay compensation.

Will it come down to where Watson drops though? It doesn't seem likely GC will take their first pick to the draft because Walter could be first name read out. GC would have to pony up that pick instead of being able to trade it for the chump change picks, right?

I'd prefer to hold our F1 until draft night to see who is left on the board but so far as I can tell that rules out GC as a trade partner because they will have moved that pick on before the draft.

 

[9494]

The prevailing view here in Melbourne circles is not that we will trade him, quite the opposite. So much so, the work being done behind the scenes to convince us to do so is huge.

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Juddy turned our club aroung..Reid has got that vibe as well.

 

[kranky al]

Need key defenders with McIntosh and Jakovich nearing the end, and we need another key forward to partner McDougall for the next decade, so Polak fills a gaping hole in the list, and that Sampi has the highest ceiling of any player in the draft. Massive upside! On talent alone should go Pick 1.

Judd's good and all but two is better than one. Our list is trash and Polak and Sampi will speed up the rebuild far more than Judd alone. Plus Judd will want to go home eventually and we'll get nothing for him. Absolutely nothing.

Plus josh wooden is on the up.

Wooden>>>Judd imho Judds shoulders are cooked and hes only 18

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Talk about going overboard, loser mentality? what are you going on about?.
We finished the year with a percentage of 50, our list is trash, only a few decent youngsters. I'd rather get 2 really good players compared to 1 gun, also Reid isn't guaranteed to be anything. If a club is after pick 1 and will pay overs it's worth it (has nothing to do with flight risks).

Ok so work another way of getting a top 5 pick into this year's draft that doesn't involve trading pick 1.

Trade our future 1st to norf for the McKay compo pick 3 with a pick swap of this year's second rounder.

Trade our F1st and 19 to Dee's for pick 5 and 15.

Trade F1st and 19 to suns for pick 4 and 26

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[Jupes]

Christ, it really is going to be 3 months of trade scenarios isn't it?

going to be great.
my personal favourite so far are the dons trade proposals that result in them getting reid while somehow giving up nothing.
victorians, a very imaginative people.

 

[CountryLad]

Promising not to bid on Walter, pick 19, Port’s 2nd and our future 2nd could get it done in my opinion. Not saying it definitely would by any means but I don’t think it’s a bad offer at all, once factoring in us not bidding on Walter I believe it’s more points wise than say the Dogs offering their 2 1sts, but this is a risk for the Suns as I’m assuming our future 2nd is 19-21.

They will find ways to get there points. What they won’t do is just throw a top 5 pick away.
They will be either looking at trading up above Walter which is possible but unlikely depending on trade week, using the pick to bring a player into the club or trading it into next years first round.
If we (the Eagles) had pick 4 you wouldn’t want pick 19 and a couple of other 2nd rounders for it or some of the other suggestions being thrown around let’s be honest.

 

[bUCKET__]

Why wait months speculating about what this Godfather32 offer on Pick 1 might look like. We can just ask him! tell us what you're giving us for Reid, mate?

 

[CountryLad]

Exactly, this seems to be the draft to load up in but not at expense of potentially the best kid in years. Trade our future first for GC pick 4, take Reid, whichever of Mckercher/Curtin are available, see what offers we get for pick 19 and look for a KPD if we don't get Curtin, fill some other gaps with the other several picks we have and potentially trade our later picks for Dev/Brockman.


I'm convinced the people who are saying we should trade it actually don't have any idea what they're talking about and haven't looked into the reality of what that would mean.

What is possible is we trade our future 1st and some later picks that we carry into the draft for the suns in exchange for pick 4 and there future 1st.

We are basically splitting next years first for pick 4 and the Suns finishing position next year. (Pick 8-12) ?

Suns get our future first (pick 1-5) and get some points in the door for there bids this year. I think there is enough picks and points available that both clubs are carrying for both clubs to get a fair deal and at the end of the day that’s the way most trades work.

 

[sey666]

It’s pretty hard to find a single person I know who believes West Coast will keep pick1.

How many people do you know in total?

 

[Doashuey]

That was more or less confirmed by Gettable 48 hours later when Cal said “English is a 1 million dollar player according to the Eagles”.

LOL. At the risk of getting drawn into the troll, let me review this convo.
You said the quoted and I came back saying that just because we think that's the market rate doesn't mean we offered it.

You came back with the claim we had a 1M pa contract in front of him .

I let you know that there is no way we had room in the cap.

You then come back with a 7M 7 year contract back loaded to squeeze him under the cap.

I called bullshit and you disappeared. Given that a) we dont have the room in the cap b) WC were very vocal about not chasing any big $signings after the Kelly deal and c) English is not a free agent so if we offered what you said, we must have been prepared to trade out of the draft in which we had pick 2 to trade for him at the start of a rebuild.

It. Was. Bullsh1t

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Plus josh wooden is on the up.

Wooden>>>Judd imho Judds shoulders are cooked and hes only 18

We just drafted Hewett Kerr last year, we don't need more midfielders!

 

[eagles rule]

People wanting to sell the Winning Lotto $100 Million Jackpot ticket for 3 lesser winning tickets..


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[Forward Press]

Reid is the exact tonic that we need.

I think trading the pick would be utter madness. Not interested in Godfather offers - just pairing Reid with Kelly, Hewett and Ginbey.

Also in favour of keeping pick 1 and drafting Reid, but if a mad offer comes in - like 3, 7 and 15...I'd consider it. Not saying accept it straight away, but at that point you'd think that you'd back yourself to pick really really good players with the first two and a good chance at another star at 15.

Moot point anyway as I doubt any team would have the currency and if they did they probably aren't giving all of them for Reid.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

The prevailing view here in Melbourne circles is not that we will trade him, quite the opposite. So much so, the work being done behind the scenes to convince us to do so is huge.

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That’s interesting, and a different set of expectations.

I’m also in Melbourne and no one I have spoken to expects us to keep it.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that you’ve heard something different to me.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

LOL. At the risk of getting drawn into the troll, let me review this convo.
You said the quoted and I came back saying that just because we think that's the market rate doesn't mean we offered it.

You came back with the claim we had a 1M pa contract in front of him .

I let you know that there is no way we had room in the cap.

You then come back with a 7M 7 year contract back loaded to squeeze him under the cap.

I called bullshit and you disappeared. Given that a) we dont have the room in the cap b) WC were very vocal about not chasing any big $signings after the Kelly deal and c) English is not a free agent so if we offered what you said, we must have been prepared to trade out of the draft in which we had pick 2 to trade for him at the start of a rebuild.

It. Was. Bullsh1t

It was absolutely a deal that equaled 1m per year over 7 years.

Our cap significantly eases from now.

Did cal geometry say Eagles consider English a million dollar layer, or not?

There’s no doubt we had a big deal in front of him, and it will probably be reported on at some stage sooner or later.