Patrick Dangerfield 'dangerous tackle' - gone or safe?

[Pancakes]

Dangerfield is a flog no doubt, but this is a bullshit suspension.
It looked like he was trying his best to hold Walsh up, but couldn't quite do it. Seriously, this shit has gone too far if Danger gets a week for this tackle.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Im thinking clubs should look at having all their "good blokes" perform dangerous tackles going forward as a tactic

Unfair. Hawthorn's never had a good bloke so that's discrimination.
All Hawks are campaigners.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Dangerfield is a flog no doubt, but this is a bullshit suspension.
It looked like he was trying his best to hold Walsh up, but couldn't quite do it. Seriously, this shit has gone too far if Danger gets a week for this tackle.

it went too far when plenty of others got done also.

 

[Ati Tude]

Should definitely get 1 week for that. Out of curiosity, what did he do, btw?

 

[Cyclops]

I've seen a few floppers band their heads on the deck in the hopes of scumming a free or getting an opponent reported this season. Owies and Walsh have done it, now May has got in on the act.

Unsportsmanlike in the extreme. Three weeks off each, we have to stamp this cheating out.

As for Dangerfield, he takes himself a bit seriously but as a player he's hard at it without being a thug. Definitely did everything right in the incident with Walsh.

 

[Cleavy]

free to play vs Essendon

 

[unfollowed]

 

[hirdylloydy1]

This sport has become a laughing stock, this was textbook 1 week, the afl tribunal needs a massive shakeup

 

[STPer18]

Out of curiosity, what did he do, btw?

Sam Walsh did his signature manuevre of faceplanting while getting tackled. The AFL finally woke up and fined May after they already handed Dangefield a week, so hopefully they keep their eyes on the flagless Blue when he tries it again on the next poor tackler.

 

[Vindicater]

One rule for some and a different rule for others

 

[STPer18]

Be careful the next guy who tackles floppy Walsh. When that boy decides it's faceplanting time, no one is holding him up.

 

[The 747]

Fair enough he's a good bloke.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

i don't mind danger getting off but Jesus Christ the inconsistency is mind boggling.

 

[bzparkes]

Be careful the next guy who tackles floppy Walsh. When that boy decides it's faceplanting time, no one is holding him up.

That's not really the issue.

The issue is "Hit head, get a week or 2, unless you're Dangerfield/a good bloke".

"Oh, except if you're Tom Barrass. The your opponent doesn't need to hit their head for it to be dangerous, because the sling itself is dangerous."

"Except if your name is Brayden Maynard. Yes, it was a far more violent sling than Barrass but his head didn't hit the ground, despite us saying it was the action and not the outcome we were wanting to punish."

Rinse and ****ing repeat

I'm actually glad Dangerfield got off btw. When I first hear about the tackle I was expecting something heinous but really, there wasn't much more he couldn't done. Don't think Walsh flopped either. Didn't exactly go the full Steven May.

 

[STPer18]

Tribunal reasons:


Dangerfield pinned both of Walsh's arms and the forward momentum of both players contributed to Walsh's head making forceful contact with the ground.

Dangerfield conceded that he did not release either arm throughout the tackle, and that he could’ve done so.

The pinned arms placed Walsh in a vulnerable position with little, if any, opportunity to protect himself from having his head hit the ground.

It will be a rare, even exceptional case where a player who tackles with significant forward motion, who pins both arms and who could have but does not release one or both arms will not have engaged in rough conduct. This is such a case.

Although not immediately apparent and not truly apparent until all angles and vision and still shots had been carefully considered, the evidence is clear here Dangerfield immediately swung his legs beside and forward of Walsh, and pulled back with considerable force to attempt to prevent Walsh being driven into the ground.

Vision shows Dangerfield managed to pull him back so that at one point Walsh's torso was almost vertical.

Would it have been reasonably possible for Dangerfield to release one or both of Walsh's arms? Yes it would, but that's not the test.

The question is whether it was unreasonable in the circumstances not to do so.

From the considerable care that Dangerfield went to in a short space of time in a fast moving piece of play to do what he could to avoid or minimise injury to his fellow player, we find that this was not rough conduct.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

That's not really the issue.

The issue is "Hit head, get a week or 2, unless you're Dangerfield/a good bloke".

"Oh, except if you're Tom Barrass. The your opponent doesn't need to hit their head for it to be dangerous, because the sling itself is dangerous."

"Except if your name is Brayden Maynard. Yes, it was a far more violent sling than Barrass but his head didn't hit the ground, despite us saying it was the action and not the outcome we were wanting to punish."

Rinse and ****ing repeat

I'm actually glad Dangerfield got off btw. When I first hear about the tackle I was expecting something heinous but really, there wasn't much more he couldn't done. Don't think Walsh flopped either. Didn't exactly go the full Steven May.

same with harry jones

how the **** did he get done and danger gets off?

the inconsistency its appalling week to week.

 

[DamoESP]

God, I wish the Tribunal would apply the "He had the option to not pin both arms but due to the fast nature of the game he tried his best to not hurt him so its ok" reasoning to a lot of other similar incidents...

 

[JackFlash]

What else was he supposed to do? Not tackle him? Walsh milked it for everything it was worth, with Steven May

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faking it, who knows what tricks players are pulling on the umpires to get a cheap free...Good decision.

 

[Bunnings]

Danger had to pin both arms or Walsh would have done a double forward somersault

 

[DamoESP]

What else was he supposed to do? Not tackle him? Walsh milked it for everything it was worth, with Steven May faking it, who knows what tricks players are pulling on the umpires to get a cheap free...Good decision.

FWIW I personally don't think it was worth a week but given the current AFL guidelines etc it was and find their reasoning for reversing the decision a joke given they haven't applied that logic to any other incident this year.

Also Walsh didn't milk it, and to put him in the same category as Steven may is just insulting.

 

[Footy Smarts]

God, I wish the Tribunal would apply the "He had the option to not pin both arms but due to the fast nature of the game he tried his best to not hurt him so its ok" reasoning to a lot of other similar incidents...

"He tried his best not to hurt him" seems like a pretty good defence to a rough conduct charge no?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'm fine with this result. He was charged by the MRO based on the pinning of the arms, but his defence was pretty good, and there was no secondary action.

There is no one size fits all. I see people over social media talking about Harley Reid and others. Different actions.

Some also saying this proves that Walsh played for a free kick, which is also ignorant.

The fact is that Walsh wasn't injured so who are we to say that Dangerfield didn't actually save him from being knocked out?

 

[DamoESP]

"He tried his best not to hurt him" seems like a pretty good defence to a rough conduct charge no?

I said I wish they would apply this logic to other similar decisions.

Quote the whole post next time

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Joke of a decision by a joke of a tribunal system.

 

[Matera92]

Glad he got off