Review Semi Final, 2024 - GWS vs. Brisbane Lions

[Nathan Barley]

Sam Taylor lost 7 of 41 contested defensive one on ones this year (most lost was 2 in round 8 vs Sydney).

He lost 5 of 11 on the weekend. Which is both a testament to how many times he was beaten one on one, but also how often we managed to isolate a one on one.

Credit to the quieter forwards; Charlie and Rayner?

 

[Jivlain]

Those lamenting the games of Rayner and Hipwood should go and have a good look at the replay


Both make significant contributions to our winning burst of 6 goals in the last quarter.

It's not all about stats and posessions and it never has been with either of these two players.

If one's measure of contribution towards team is AFL Fantasy points , you're just not paying attention to what matters

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One of the things I really noticed in the replay, especially in the last few minutes, was Rayner repeatedly forcing his way into a contest, putting his body on the line, in ways that did not necessarily earn him possessions but nonetheless contributing to the ball continuing to move in our direction. Again and again, up and down the ground.

 

[Gadzorks]

One of the things I really noticed in the replay, especially in the last few minutes, was Rayner repeatedly forcing his way into a contest, putting his body on the line, in ways that did not necessarily earn him possessions but nonetheless contributing to the ball continuing to move in our direction. Again and again, up and down the ground.

Rayner's willingness to be a battering ram goes unappreciated by many who think stats definie performance.

Like Lachie in the last quarter, you can change the course of the game without touching the ball.

 

[luthor]

Rayner's willingness to be a battering ram goes unappreciated by many who think stats definie performance.

Like Lachie in the last quarter, you can change the course of the game without touching the ball.

Which was exactly my point.

Rayner wasn't having a great game but he did one or two bloody good things when it really counted.

Demonstrating that even if you're not having your best game you can still make a significant contribution.

One of Craig Starcevic's mantras to his AFLW team is that it's all about moments and no wiser words have ever been spoken.

 

[twhowler]

Sam Taylor lost 7 of 41 contested defensive one on ones this year (most lost was 2 in round 8 vs Sydney).

He lost 5 of 11 on the weekend. Which is both a testament to how many times he was beaten one on one, but also how often we managed to isolate a one on one.

Yep

No way will the cats allow that

Need hippy or morris to be more of a threat this week. Add rayner to that

Smalls all chipped in v giants as a group

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Fages' inability to look at the camera during his AFL360 spots just endears himself to me even more.

 

[Schache_off]

Rayner's willingness to be a battering ram goes unappreciated by many who think stats definie performance.

Like Lachie in the last quarter, you can change the course of the game without touching the ball.

Yep. Stood out to me watching the 2nd half. When he was around the contest, his body was going hard at the ball or the GWS players.

It was a pretty even contribution from our whole team apart from Morris who hardly touched it after the first 10 minutes of the game.

 

[Gadzorks]

Yep. Stood out to me watching the 2nd half. When he was around the contest, his body was going hard at the ball or the GWS players.

It was a pretty even contribution from our whole team apart from Morris who hardly touched it after the first 10 minutes of the game.

Morris was good last week, can't get too annoyed with such a novice getting overawed and lost by the tempo of a final.

He'll be better next week for the experience.

 

[p4p1]

Absolutely disgraceful the way Lachie is manhandled with no protection from the Umps.

There was a stoppage in the first quarter where three Giants were blocking him AND Bedford was also holding him.

UMPIRES: "Play on"

It's a weird juxtaposition that Lachie hardly ever gets a free kick, yet the Umpires regularly award him Browlow votes.

Almost like they think he is so good, he doesn't need any "help"

Lachie is far from the only one who receives the treatment. FWIW I would like to see more frees paid to mids who are constantly being held and scragged, it would stop that fairly quickly.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Some great analysis here from Jeff White

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, ostensibly about Will Ashcroft but also highlights Oscar's influence in starting the comeback.

Our true barometer?

 

[Gadzorks]

Some great analysis here from Jeff White, ostensibly about Will Ashcroft but also highlights Oscar's influence in starting the comeback.

Our true barometer?

This here is a learnings opportunity for me. Love the analysis. I don't have x, but I'm going to try to hunt this Jeff white person so I can watch whatever he posts.b

 

[Toffee Lion]

This here is a learnings opportunity for me. Love the analysis. I don't have x, but I'm going to try to hunt this Jeff white person so I can watch whatever he posts.b

This is Jeff White who used to play for Melbourne, used to be a great player.

 

[dlanod]

Watching On the Couch and they showed that play where Daniel’s took advantage and kicked the ball off the ground after a free to the Giants from a few angles.

That being said, anyone know what the free was for because their was zero in anything related to the marking contest? Fortunately Daniel’s plays on but looked very sus whatever the free was.

Holding from memory? I don't remember being too offended by it.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Well, that got me up and about and interested!

Admit to not watching most of the game, just couldn't, it was terrible but was checking scores. Watched the last qtr thinking could they possibly.....then when Joe kicked that last goal I scared the hell out of my dog when I screamed and jumped off the couch, she ran off to the other room..

The most animated I've been for a while...it felt real good

We might get you to watch the whole prelim

 

[Grasshopper17]

An historic win - a modern era miracle.
I chose to ignore freo.

Freo's deficit in that game was already reduced to 15 points by half time. Completely different game.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Nah you were correct…some of the commentary was brutal and the Lions showed why you never leave a game early…literally or figuratively!

2 of my 5 "mates" left at half time. They will not be invited back.

Never. Leave. Early.

 

[royboys4eva]

Watching On the Couch and they showed that play where Daniel’s took advantage and kicked the ball off the ground after a free to the Giants from a few angles.

That being said, anyone know what the free was for because their was zero in anything related to the marking contest? Fortunately Daniel’s plays on but looked very sus whatever the free was.

I said at the time do we even know what the free kick was for? I'm always a little suspicious as well when they never show the replay. That free kick and the mark they paid to Hogan when he clearly shoved Payne in the back were very poor decisions that were right in front of goal.

 

[mpal6]

One of the things I really noticed in the replay, especially in the last few minutes, was Rayner repeatedly forcing his way into a contest, putting his body on the line, in ways that did not necessarily earn him possessions but nonetheless contributing to the ball continuing to move in our direction. Again and again, up and down the ground.

Agree with giving his all but I had a different view of it.

The last or second last play when Rayner went hard for footy I feared he had made contact below knee's and given away another free. By then he already conceded 2 frees to Himmelberg and I worried if we lose this one he would've been the focus.

I'm glad we won but Rayner just needs to be a bit more careful when things seem to be not working for him. It's easy to say from my perspective, I can only appreciate him trying so hard to contribute and help us win.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Some great analysis here from Jeff White, ostensibly about Will Ashcroft but also highlights Oscar's influence in starting the comeback.

Our true barometer?

I thought Oscar was pretty poor early and Briggs was giving their mids first look at stoppages. O definitely seemed to adjust. I don't know why his first instinct is to give away front position, especially at boundary throw-ins - they're going to drop short more often than not.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Unsurprisingly, Lloyd fails to mention Hogan clearly pushed Jack in the back or highlight a lot of the good Jack did too.

I've seen a flaw in Payne from 2 short videos the producers showed me....

 

[Elixuh]

Poor old Lloydy has been reduced to picking one or two moments out of a game relating to a guy that isn’t 100% playing on the best forward in the comp.

Troubling times for whichever producer is tasked with putting this together for Lloydy to read.

 

[Squizz89]

I'm actually waiting for us to win the Granny now, and Lloydy and his mates start the highlights of the game with all the mistakes we made during it & discussing what we could've done better.

 

[Brett C]

I'm actually waiting for us to win the Granny now, and Lloydy and his mates start the highlights of the game of all the mistakes we made during it & discussing what we could've done better.

Still bitter from 2001 Grand Final when the Lions supporters sung "Lloydy's a wank*r"

 

[MSB ROYS]

I'm actually waiting for us to win the Granny now, and Lloydy and his mates start the highlights of the game with all the mistakes we made during it & discussing what we could've done better.

If there only wasn't another team of very talented and determined opposition players trying to win the game, the game would be easy.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Still bitter from 2001 Grand Final when the Lions supporters sung "Lloydy's a wank*r"

Bernie Quinlan was his favourite player growing up, but as soon as joining Essendon things have gone down hill. He's still upset about the Essendon 'dynasty' of 1999-2001 - major choke in the 1999 PF, dominant 2000 and then getting smashed by the Lions in 2001 GF.