Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

[longdonkey]

Yeah, you’re definitely right. Jordan Hinkley is masterminding all of our list decisions. I take everything back. Good post

They do a decent job I just don't think that Jordan Hinkley Moneyball analytics is the reason behind it. In the EPL Brighton and Tottenham seem to be at the forefront of using data to find the profile they need for transfer targets. They have been doing this for 5 years at best.

With the professionalism of AFL clubs I expect we may see something like it in 2040. I understand that the clubs have data analysis teams I always wonder what more they are using than the stuff coming out of Champion Data who in my opinion are just an extension of the Vic AFL cabal.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

If Brisbane get up tomorrow, you watch them say it was this game that kick-started their season proper.

We copped a home loss to eventual premiers in:

2013 - Hawthorn
2016 - Bulldogs
2017 - Richmond
2018 - West Coast
2019 - Richmond
2021 - Melbourne
2022 - Geelong
2023 - Collingwood

We are the Port Adelaide Fluffers - come smack us on our home deck and you'll win the flag!

That’s our new slogan. Come smack us on our home deck, and you'll win the flag!

 

[elbarton]

They do a decent job I just don't think that Jordan Hinkley Moneyball analytics is the reason behind it. In the EPL Brighton and Tottenham seem to be at the forefront of using data to find the profile they need for transfer targets. They have been doing this for 5 years at best.

With the professionalism of AFL clubs I expect we may see something like it in 2040. I understand that the clubs have data analysis teams I always wonder what more they are using than the stuff coming out of Champion Data who in my opinion are just an extension of the Vic AFL cabal.

The club explicitly stated that they have and use a massive data warehouse, with millions of data points, at the fan expo thing in 2018/19.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The reason why he doesn’t change the gameplan is because it delivers 60% wins in the minor round. Perfect fodder for gaining indefinite extensions. It’s not unlike when Kane would flap his arms around to gain 30 inconsequential possessions every week in the back end of his career, to great financial success. No wonder the Cornes clan love Kenny.

On a more serious note though, the club obviously committed to two things about ten years ago:

1) a high-press, forward half gameplan that generates a large number of inside 50s (see CD tongue lashing Josh Money about this in yesterday’s presser re: conversion rates). It’s a low-variance style that isn’t efficient or potent enough to succeed in the finals but delivers enough wins against the bottom 10 to keep da true believers happy, and the cash flowing in. This is why the club admin and footy staff think we “just need to keep turning up”, because the dice will at some point roll in our favour (despite the overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence that this will not work).

2) a Moneyball-style approach to trading players. Essentially no commitment to anyone, we will trade/release anyone if the opposing club is paying overs based on what the ‘data warehouse’ spits out.

It’s been good enough to produce pretty solid results over the last decade, but neglects the art of winning football in favour of science.

Any sensible person would take a 50-55% win rate in the minor round, to develop an gameplan that actually holds up in September. It was good enough for the Clarkson and Scott teams after all. But we a run by guys who think they are misunderstood geniuses of their time.

Point 2 also neglects the ability to cause the list to peak at certain times to actually win a flag.

Sometimes you just have to take the hit and say "this might not be best for the list overall, but if it wins us a flag it's worth it" rather than always just playing what is in front of you.



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[Rigs]

Or maybe because it’s Ken and that’s what his announcement will be

 

[PAFC66]

Would anyone here at all renew their membership if Ken went around again?

 

[PAFC66]

Or maybe because it’s Ken and that’s what his announcement will be

Nah nobody is interested in him at all. Weren't from the start when he came to us and not now.

Stephen Rowe was right in 2012..

" Ken Hinkley?!"

Yep what a joke.

 

[dirty2]

Would anyone here at all renew their membership if Ken went around again?

**** no.

 

[Anyonebutken]

The whole situation is so ridiculous, I feel a movie will be made in coming years, with Jim Carrey starring as a long-suffering Port supporter.

Additional cast:


Ken Hinkley - Bruce Spence

Chris Davies - Jason Alexander

David Koch - Wayne Knight

Warren Tredrea - John Butcher

Kane Cornes - Kym Gyngell

Matthew Richardson - Richard Roxburgh

Caro - Val Lehman

Gerard Whateley - Jim Parsons

Keith Thomas - Gary Sweet

Boydman - Bill Murray

Janus - Christopher Lloyd

Piston Broke - Bobcat Goldthwait

Matthew Lobbe - Harry Mountbatten

Chad Cornes - Fabio Lanzoni

Robbo - John Goodman

Holly Ransom - Jacinda Ardern

Great list well done you missed David King though maybe Kevin spacey for him.

 

[philreich]

He's not resilient, he just keeps hanging around as he wants to keep getting his pay cheque.

He's been resilient about as often as he's won a preliminary final.

 

[Janey]

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Nah, I'd definitely remember that!

 

[Watto71]

Would anyone here at all renew their membership if Ken went around again?

I haven't renewed for a few years now and I told the club get rid of Hinkley and I will show you the money

 

[Poley]

Would anyone here at all renew their membership if Ken went around again?

I don't think I could even stomach going to games next season if he's still there - It's just the same nightmare on repeat

 

[philreich]

If Brisbane get up tomorrow, you watch them say it was this game that kick-started their season proper.

We copped a home loss to eventual premiers in:

2013 - Hawthorn
2016 - Bulldogs
2017 - Richmond
2018 - West Coast
2019 - Richmond
2021 - Melbourne
2022 - Geelong
2023 - Collingwood

We are the Port Adelaide Fluffers - come smack us on our home deck and you'll win the flag!

There'll also be a first if Sydney gets up. They're already the first team ever to get smashed by 100 points, but still make a grand final, so if they win tomorrow, they'll extend that to the first ever premiership team to be smashed by 100 points.

 

[philreich]

Would anyone here at all renew their membership if Ken went around again?

There's more chance of North Melbourne winning back to back flags any time soon.

 

[Chewy316]

Or maybe because it’s Ken and that’s what his announcement will be

Longmire.

 

[Lockhart Road]

I emailed Matthew Richardson last week with some of my concerns and received an email today very briefly noting my argument and thanking me for getting in contact.

Received an email from my ex-mate the CEO yesterday confirming that my name has been removed from every PAFC list it had been on.

For 2025 I shall be buying my ‘international membership’ Global Pass via the Suns. Ironic that, considering 2017, David Koch and the colour red.

They’re $6 cheaper, as things stand.

 

[bringbackbucky]

Longmire.

With Cox taking over at the Swans? I could see that.

 

[parano1a]

Is there any chance Ken could announce his immediate retirement on the Grand Final dais just prior to the Premiership Cup being awarded?

 

[gbear]

Longmire.

Meanwhile port still holds onto Hinkley at this stage. Really embarrassing really when west coast can land such a big fish.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Longmire.

But who're gonna git?

 

[PowerBaz]

But who're gonna git?

Well you have to actively be looking...

 

[Alberton Proud]

BT's statement was the big announcement will affect both GF teams

Agree with Chewy - Longmire to WC, Cox to step up at Syd

And Fagan to retire - hence the recent Stinkers to Brisvegas rumours

Both coaches moving on

That would have never happened before

 

[Jojay]

Longmire.

That would be something.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

Longmire.

to WC?