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Laidley upbeat about Roos chances
12:41 PM Thu 6 September, 2007 | Back


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KANGAROOS coach Dean Laidley has complete respect for Geelong, but insists the top-of-the-ladder Cats hold no fears for his side in Sunday's AFL qualifying final.

Four victories separated the minor premiers and the fourth-placed Kangaroos at the end of the home-and-away season, but Laidley said that will count for nothing when the teams run out onto the MCG.

"Are we not equal now? Are we not equal going into this game?" Laidley asked.

"The top four are in the same position ... the winners of these two qualifying finals go to a preliminary final so there is no advantage.

"We respect them 100 per cent because they have been a very good team all year but the reality is, right now, we're on even terms."

The Kangaroos have fitness concerns over defender Michael Firrito (heel) and midfielder Andrew Swallow, who suffered concussion after being involved in a heavy collision early in last week's win the Western Bulldogs.
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So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
 
I think they'll beat the cats.......


Thats 2 people that think they can win out of 2. Me and Dean Laidley.

Must be 100 percent chance of winning then!! :p
 

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Good on laidley for filling his team with confidence and optimism. The worst thing they could think is that beating Geelong is mission impossible. Laidley's support and confidence in his players is a great attribute to have as a coach and this year he has proven that he is the man to take the Roos forward and I think he can. Geelong are clear favourites on Sunday, but too many times in the past the Roos can lift for these games. If they won it wouldnt surprise me.
 
Catteract said:
So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
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Well perhaps the fact that north were not favorites in 17 of their 22 games, yet won 14 - it has made him question his maths teacher.

He has said nothing wrong. Not cocky, said he has huge respect, just said what everyone knows - home and away means nothing now, it all starts again.
 
Catteract said:
So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
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Exactly.

The bookmakers have been spot on with the Kangaroos all year, I don't know why Laidley isn't telling everyone we have no chance to beat Geelong.
 
Catteract said:
So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
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Just proves how thick you are if you feel you have a 50% chance of winning a lottery.
 
Betting odds scale based on how the general public bets. If someone was to bet $100 million on North to win the odds would shift radically to the point our odds would drop lower than North vs Carlton. Why is that? Bookies do not make money by trying to guess who wins, they balance bets for both sides and take a cut over the top, that is how they make money.

They raise and lower the odds based on how much money they receive from the public. Our odds are up to $4 so they can encourage more bets on North so they end up with balanced books. Otherwise, they risk losing money if the favourite wins.

You need to understand how bookies make money.
 
He's spot on. The cats have 4 more wins than the Roos, but what advantage to they have? Neutral venue, same thing at stake in terms of win/loss, etc.

Roos finished top 4, so they obviously are a good team. They have every right to rate their chances highly.
 
Catteract said:
So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
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All that Dean Laidley has said is that they are now on even terms going into this match. And he is exactly right. They are two teams that if either wins they get the same reward (home prelim) or they lose they both get the same result (home semi). It's not like the cats have a home ground advantage at the G over the kangas. I dont see anywhere that he said its a 50/50 game. Obviously cats are favourites, but the playing ground is even.

Not that hard to understand what he is saying.
 

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I don't think there's anything at all wrong with what he's said, but it surprises me.

All week we've heard stuff like this from Laidley and others at North (e.g. Rawlings) which, to me, is totally out of character from the club. Usually it's more of a very low-key, "they don't rate us but we'll show them" thing. The difference being that it's used as internal motivation and not spruiked about in the press.

At the end of the day though, I don't think the comments of coaches in the press have any bearing on the outcome of matches.
 
catempire said:
I don't think there's anything at all wrong with what he's said, but it surprises me.

All week we've heard stuff like this from Laidley and others at North (e.g. Rawlings) which, to me, is totally out of character from the club. Usually it's more of a very low-key, "they don't rate us but we'll show them" thing. The difference being that it's used as internal motivation and not spruiked about in the press.

At the end of the day though, I don't think the comments of coaches in the press have any bearing on the outcome of matches.
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It is important for the club that it has a positive image, more so for the future than for the present. If you want to inspire more supporters to jump on then it is better to have the image that you deserve to be where you are and that you are a good chance against anyone than to have the general media impression of us, which is the 16th best team in the competition. ;)

We want to sell more memberships next year, and image is an important component of that. Geelong doesn't have to worry about that aspect but it is an issue for us to work against negative media exposure.
 
Good on him for being optimistic.

However only the bravest of punters would get on the Roos.
 
Catteract said:
So why don't the bookmakers agree and have them at even odds. I have a 50% chance of winning Tattslotto also. I either win or I don't win!

Back to the classroom Dean.
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you sound a bit jumpy.
if thats how people within the club are reacting,
looks like deans hitting the nerves well.

at least he's commenting rather than saying
"let's keep a lid on it"
"let's not mention the f word"

like bomber pussy thompson
 

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In 2003 Port finished 5 games clear of Sydney and had comprehensively belted them at footy park just a few weeks earlier. They went into the finals with a head full of steam and Sydney practicully limped in over the line. The rest is History, only a late charge by Port brought it back to a respectable 10 points, Sydney dominated. The only 2 things you can be sure about are death and taxes, in a 2 horse race your only as good as ur last gallop.
 
PoidaCat said:
Dean Laidley - "bla bla bla..."

Geelong to defeat the Gold Coast Roos by 50+
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We can roll Geelong, no worries about that, and a lot of the skylarking from the supposedly oh so confident Geelong fans reeks of insecurity.

I'd be more concerned if we were playing Sydney or Adelaide.

We have the ability to beat all the others.
 
Tas said:
Just proves how thick you are if you feel you have a 50% chance of winning a lottery.
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His point was that if there are only two possible outcomes (eg. you win the lottery, you don't win the lottery) it doesn't mean that by default that each outcome is 50% chance of happening.

For Laidley to say that they've got a 50% chance of winning because there's two teams (and therefore two possible outcomes) is a bit of oversimplification. Maybe given the Roos fan base thats not such a bad thing...:p
 
Waverley73 said:
His point was that if there are only two possible outcomes (eg. you win the lottery, you don't win the lottery) it doesn't mean that by default that each outcome is 50% chance of happening.

For Laidley to say that they've got a 50% chance of winning because there's two teams (and therefore two possible outcomes) is a bit of oversimplification. Maybe given the Roos fan base thats not such a bad thing...:p
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Without doubt mathematically speaking you are definitely a very low chance of winning the lotto.

Mathematically its impossible to say with any certainty who will win the game of football but Laidely is correct in saying it is a two hourse race and as such 50:50.

The comparison made above is nonsensical.
 

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