Autopsy 2025 AFL Round 3: Saints thrash Tigers

[Saint Ray]

Pushing someone out of a contest is a fundamental aspect of the sport. Full forwards do it 10x a game. Sometimes that push is going to have negative outcomes.

It’s a contact sport. And Mansells supposed push didn’t alter o’Connells trajectory at all. 3 weeks for that is crazy.

Well obviously the AFL don't agree with you and neither do I.

 

[St Kilda Death]

Pushing someone out of a contest is a fundamental aspect of the sport. Full forwards do it 10x a game. Sometimes that push is going to have negative outcomes.

It’s a contact sport. And Mansells supposed push didn’t alter o’Connells trajectory at all. 3 weeks for that is crazy.

100% did alter his trajectory, he was off balance and if not pushed would have been further in front,
Still would have copped an elbow from lynch but that’s irrelevant.

 

[Hubnester]

Pushing someone out of a contest is a fundamental aspect of the sport. Full forwards do it 10x a game. Sometimes that push is going to have negative outcomes.

Well maybe he should have pushed O'Connell out of the contest instead of into one.

Don't think Richmond can challenge based on what happened in previous incidents, because they are why the rule was introduced, and the clubs were warned. The outcome might have been a bit unlucky for the guy who chose to push, but you know... Just don't do it.

 

[jwikked]

Well obviously the AFL don't agree with you and neither do I.

Why would you hold the AFL up as the arbiter of everything that's right with the game? Don't care if you don't agree with me, Mansell shouldn't be getting 3 weeks for that.

Either ban the push entirely, or don't ban people for pushing. He didn't deliberately push him into a contest, he pushed him out of the way. His push was entirely ineffective, anyway.

If roles were reversed, attitudes would be completely different on here.

 

[Mowman]

Pushing someone out of a contest is a fundamental aspect of the sport. Full forwards do it 10x a game. Sometimes that push is going to have negative outcomes.

It’s a contact sport. And Mansells supposed push didn’t alter o’Connells trajectory at all. 3 weeks for that is crazy.

Just wonder if it was a player like Dangerfield or Cripps ilk if it would’ve been 3 weeks

 

[jwikked]

Still would have copped an elbow from lynch but that’s irrelevant.

No, it isn't. His trajectory was going to make contact with Lynch regardless, Mansells push didn't add anything to it. He's neither off balance, or out of position because of it.

 

[From 45]

100% did alter his trajectory, he was off balance and if not pushed would have been further in front,
Still would have copped an elbow from lynch but that’s irrelevant.

And to add to that the push accelerated his momentum causing more of an impact and thus leading to a more serious injury

 

[jwikked]

And to add to that the push accelerated his momentum causing more of an impact and thus leading to a more serious injury

I completely disagree. The push was performative, and didn't add anything to his trajectory.

 

[Saint Ray]

I completely disagree. The push was performative, and didn't add anything to his trajectory.

i would say that you are in minority here, the odd man out.

 

[St Kilda Death]

No, it isn't. His trajectory was going to make contact with Lynch regardless, Mansells push didn't add anything to it.

So if a man is walking onto the road and a car is coming,
You push him.

Nothing wrong with that.

“He's neither off balance, or out of position because of it.”

 

[St Kilda Death]

Just wonder if it was a player like Dangerfield or Cripps ilk if it would’ve been 3 weeks

No they would have got off.
We’ve seen it plenty of times.
Make example of small time player.
Can’t have the AFLs big names missing games.

 

[jwikked]

i would say that you are in minority here, the odd man out.

Plenty of bias on here, a St Kilda player got knocked out. Can understand why.

So if a man is walking onto the road and a car is coming,
You push him.

Nothing wrong with that.

“He's neither off balance, or out of position because of it.”

Not all pushes are equal, and Mansells push wasn't a strong one. Watch O'Connells trajectory, it doesn't alter it at all. He's in full control of his movement the entire time.

 

[Saint Ray]

Plenty of bias on here, a St Kilda player got knocked out. Can understand why.

Not all pushes are equal, and Mansells push wasn't a strong one. Watch O'Connells trajectory, it doesn't alter it at all. He's in full control of his movement the entire time.

The fact remains. the tigers turd should not have pushed the Irish kid. The AFL wrote to the clubs advising them that a push resulting in a concussion was going to earn three weeks.

 

[From 45]

I completely disagree. The push was performative, and didn't add anything to his trajectory.

Performative? Really? He pushed him straight into oncoming traffic and that act caused a rapid impact.

If a car hits an object at 60km and hits the same object at 100km, which speed will cause more damage?

 

[jwikked]

Performative? Really? He pushed him straight into oncoming traffic and that act caused a rapid impact.

If a car hits an object at 60km and hits the same object at 100km, which speed will cause more damage?

Stop using cars as your analogy, it's silly lol. Watch the tape again. The push doesn't alter his trajectory at all, it doesn't put him off balance. O'Connell is going for the mark and would be in the perfect position to mark the ball had Lynch not been coming in the other direction. The push had nothing to do with it.

Richmond need to fight the MRO on this, for the good of the game.

It's the last I'll say on it.

 

[ZedNotZee]

Garcia in the Coaches Votes, wonder if a Rising Star nom is on for him?

 

[Saint Ray]

Stop using cars as your analogy, it's silly lol. Watch the tape again. The push doesn't alter his trajectory at all, it doesn't put him off balance. O'Connell is going for the mark and would be in the perfect position to mark the ball had Lynch not been coming in the other direction. The push had nothing to do with it.

Richmond need to fight the MRO on this, for the good of the game.

It's the last I'll say on it.

No this needs to be stamped out, so you have it arse about. He need his appeal to fail.

 

[Desperate saint]

i would say that you are in minority here, the odd man out.

I was at the game at that end not worth 3 weeks that is for sure

 

[From 45]

Stop using cars as your analogy, it's silly lol. Watch the tape again. The push doesn't alter his trajectory at all, it doesn't put him off balance. O'Connell is going for the mark and would be in the perfect position to mark the ball had Lynch not been coming in the other direction. The push had nothing to do with it.

Richmond need to fight the MRO on this, for the good of the game.

It's the last I'll say on it.

Haha what are you on about. It’s the 1st time I’ve used that analogy and it’s actually a perfect example to use.

I saw it happen in front of me and have seen the replay. You need to get your eyes sorted out.

Look more power to you. You die on that hill

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Mansell and the tigers are gonna challenge the ban.

Mansell to challenge three-week ban for push

Rhyan Mansell will challenge his three-match ban for a push which resulted in a concussion for St Kilda player Liam O'Connell at the tribunal on Tuesday night.On Sunday, Mansell was handed the first s...

nit.com.au

 

[Barrels]

I still have no ****ing idea how all the attention is on Mansell’s push, and not Lynch’s swinging forearm…

Oh wait, yes I do… another sacrificial lamb for the AFL to throw to the mob rather than going after a “name”.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Mansell and the tigers are gonna challenge the ban.

Mansell to challenge three-week ban for push

Rhyan Mansell will challenge his three-match ban for a push which resulted in a concussion for St Kilda player Liam O'Connell at the tribunal on Tuesday night.On Sunday, Mansell was handed the first s...

nit.com.au

He won’t get off. They’re going to make an example of him. He’s not a “name”.

 

[Ads734]

Pushing someone out of a contest is a fundamental aspect of the sport. Full forwards do it 10x a game. Sometimes that push is going to have negative outcomes.

It’s a contact sport. And Mansells supposed push didn’t alter o’Connells trajectory at all. 3 weeks for that is crazy.

Except he didn’t push him out of the contest , he pushed him into the contest.

 

[Saint Ray]

He won’t get off. They’re going to make an example of him. He’s not a “name”.

Hope you are right.

 

[Hubnester]

I still have no ****ing idea how all the attention is on Mansell’s push, and not Lynch’s swinging forearm…

Oh wait, yes I do… another sacrificial lamb for the AFL to throw to the mob rather than going after a “name”.

Sniper lynch is just lucky his idiot mate decided to give a shove. He gets a free hit and no one's looking at him