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jd2010 said:
The contract lengths were exploited by Chelsea but you could see how they made sense and could be a risk for Chelsea giving out 8 year deals, even if it meant spreading the amortisation in smaller chunks.

But selling to yourself?

That's like the old Football Manager cheat code of creating a 2nd manager at a club with a lot of money and buying all your shit players for inflated transfer fees. A real Cruyff14 sort of FM move ;)
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Jatz said:
Wtf hahaha.

Cruyff14 defend yourself man, surely this isn't true? :tearsofjoy:
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Hahaha nah I never did that, would just give myself some extra money.
 

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Is this the only way non sky 4 clubs can break the glass ceiling and remain at the top?

City
Newcastle
Villa

All with nefarious activities and/or ownerships to not fall back to the pack.

Brighton who are run properly have struggled to maintain it. No doubt Forest and Bournemouth will as well when their players start getting picked off.
 
Art Vandelay_ said:


More campaigners.
What a worrying trend for football.
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It's crazy that there's a rule in football that makes you do this just so you are allowed to compete financially with your rivals at the top.

The campaigners are the ones that designed and promoted these protectionist rules.
 
Art Vandelay_ said:
Is this the only way non sky 4 clubs can break the glass ceiling and remain at the top?

City
Newcastle
Villa

All with nefarious activities and/or ownerships to not fall back to the pack.

Brighton who are run properly have struggled to maintain it. No doubt Forest and Bournemouth will as well when their players start getting picked off.
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Perhaps Villa could get hundreds of millions of below market value loans from their owner like Brighton have done.
 
moomba said:
It's crazy that there's a rule in football that makes you do this just so you are allowed to compete financially with your rivals at the top.

The campaigners are the ones that designed and promoted these protectionist rules.
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If it's at fair value there's no issue is there?
 
moomba said:
Perhaps Villa could get hundreds of millions of below market value loans from their owner like Brighton have done.
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If an owner is loaning the club they own money why should they have to pay market value?
 
Art Vandelay_ said:
A fine is a wet lettuce leaf for a club that spent about 1bn on transfers in 18 months.
But at least UEFA aren't copping this cheating like English football seems to want to.
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Whether you like it or not it's not against the rules.
 
SM said:
If it's at fair value there's no issue is there?
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105m for something with 400k in assets, sounds like the fair value calculation is as daft as PSR.

For context a 262x multiple would put Spurs fair value at 525b. Daniel Levy who is a notrious hard to make a deal with, he'd bite the hand off someone offering a fifth of that! Probably even a tenth of it.
 

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chef said:
Probably more dodgy than cheating, like Geelong with their soft cap i guess.

PSR is full of holes so sone clubs are going to see how much they can get away with. Things need to change.
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Yeah the rules allowing stupid shit. Fair play to clubs exploiting it
 
chef said:
Probably more dodgy than cheating, like Geelong with their soft cap i guess.

PSR is full of holes so sone clubs are going to see how much they can get away with. Things need to change.
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You ruined my setup.

I was just waiting to hear how the rules don't matter so I could ask if it applies to Geelong too.
 
chef said:
Probably more dodgy than cheating, like Geelong with their soft cap i guess.

PSR is full of holes so sone clubs are going to see how much they can get away with. Things need to change.
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Like any regulations surely there's a general rule about deliberate circumvention of the system / acting against the spirit of the rules.

Impossible to cover every scenario.
 
chef said:
Probably more dodgy than cheating, like Geelong with their soft cap i guess.

PSR is full of holes so sone clubs are going to see how much they can get away with. Things need to change.
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The Morris deal that was ticked off twice that everyone gets its knickers in a twist about, turns out the AFL didn't care at all about the 2nd job and the income it provided. The reason part is now in the cap as an ASA is we ****ed up and the deal was announced with CS in a club polo. Which is an AFL no no. Them's the breaks. No joke either.

So we've been sanctioned for doing something wrong, as it should be.
 
Zidane98 said:
Like any regulations surely there's a general rule about deliberate circumvention of the system / acting against the spirit of the rules.

Impossible to cover every scenario.
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If its written in the regulations its a rule. If its not, it's not.

Richard Masters got laughed out of the Leicester tribunal for trying to suggest there was a "spirit of the rules" aspect.

Chelsea isn't even that. The type of deal they made was voted for by the clubs and approved.
 

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jd2010 said:
105m for something with 400k in assets, sounds like the fair value calculation is as daft as PSR.

For context a 262x multiple would put Spurs fair value at 525b. Daniel Levy who is a notrious hard to make a deal with, he'd bite the hand off someone offering a fifth of that! Probably even a tenth of it.
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Oh I know.
 
moomba said:
If its written in the regulations its a rule. If its not, it's not.

Richard Masters got laughed out of the Leicester tribunal for trying to suggest there was a "spirit of the rules" aspect.

Chelsea isn't even that. The type of deal they made was voted for by the clubs and approved.
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That's not how regulations work anywhere. Any deliberate attempt to circumvent regulations against the spirit of the rules can and should be punished. It is impossible to cover every scenario.
 

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