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Lyn said:
Can anyone tell me exactly what Marshall's crimes were and his sentence?
Was he a major perpetrator in child sex crimes?
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Yes . There is a page on FB that details his crimes - I wont - search FACAA
Lyn said:
And what about his Dad? What was he convicted of? Jail time?
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None that I am aware of
 

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I finally found the 1990 news article with the predicted looks of the Beaumont Children Adults

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then, as there's been discussion as to the pros and cons of AI in the Family Murders thread, I thought I'd do a very quick free online AI photo aging process. If you see these people, pull them aside and take them to the local police station to verify their identity.

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thankfully they all kept their childhood haircuts so they should be easy to identify.
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
I finally found the 1990 news article with the predicted looks of the Beaumont Children Adults

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then, as there's been discussion as to the pros and cons of AI in the Family Murders thread, I thought I'd do a very quick free online AI photo aging process. If you see these people, pull them aside and take them to the local police station to verify their identity.

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thankfully they all kept their childhood haircuts so they should be easy to identify.
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Look for three people with bad bangs (not the Stooges) - case solved.
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
I finally found the 1990 news article with the predicted looks of the Beaumont Children Adults

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then, as there's been discussion as to the pros and cons of AI in the Family Murders thread, I thought I'd do a very quick free online AI photo aging process. If you see these people, pull them aside and take them to the local police station to verify their identity.

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thankfully they all kept their childhood haircuts so they should be easy to identify.
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This has that real early 00’s movies where they started animating mouths on babies and animals for film type feel. Thanks, soldier, I hate it.
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
I finally found the 1990 news article with the predicted looks of the Beaumont Children Adults

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then, as there's been discussion as to the pros and cons of AI in the Family Murders thread, I thought I'd do a very quick free online AI photo aging process. If you see these people, pull them aside and take them to the local police station to verify their identity.

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thankfully they all kept their childhood haircuts so they should be easy to identify.
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How sad it would have been for their parents to see that, knowing they never made it to adulthood
 
bootrossbootross said:
Your wrongness in most of what you have said is surpassed only by your confidence saying it.
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It's a common theory that has been going around for years, champ. I also posted that 11 years ago.

Instead of being a prick, how about you constructively post something that shows or proves otherwise.

No?

Didn't think so.

Notifications are going off for this thread, so no response necessary because I'm not going to be reading it.
 
JimmyBC said:
The line through Von Einem is quite easy on this one it's just not his MO.
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I came to that conclusion a long time ago as well, certainly after I made that post 11 years ago.

The snide remark that was made wasn't necessary.
 

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Heardy_101 said:
It's a common theory that has been going around for years, champ. I also posted that 11 years ago.

Instead of being a prick, how about you constructively post something that shows or proves otherwise.

No?

Didn't think so.

Notifications are going off for this thread, so no response necessary because I'm not going to be reading it.
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The "theory" has been disproven for much longer than 10 years, doesn't need me to do it. It seems reading is not some peoples thing i guess. You should feel proud, I just read through 250 pages of this thread and the comment i snided (?) on stood out as the most confidently stated but clearly wrong I had come across.
But that was early, the last 100 or so pages also contained some very confidently wrong fantasizing.
Get back on the horse old mate.
 
This was just posted on you tube...
Ouija board stuff, but if you believe in such things then it might interest you.
The real question is does it provide anything that can be verified or tested by SAPOL to solve the case?
 
Although they supposedly edited out the parts of this seance that contain the information that they have given to SAPOL, what's left leaves a few clues.
"Fisherman" probably relates to the ABCTV documentary called fisherman, which presented James Ryan O'Neill as a suspect.
There is a name of a Port or Marina and possibly a name of a boat in parts that weren't edited out. This might provide something that could be independently assessed.
And they seem to be asserting that there are two men involved. An 18 year old and an older man who's already passed over into the spirit world. This probably means that they appear to be accusing O'Neil and Phipps.
It's asserted in this video that they were told something from the spirit world that could lead to physical evidence being found. I don't know if they're talking about a dump site as I presume that the talk about a boat probably means that they're saying about bodies weren't hidden on land. Hard to assess with the complete allegations being edited out. Hopefully whatever they say that they gave to SAPOL isn't as vague in specific details as this.
That's it for my guess to what this seance video is all about.
 
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Redacted said:
Although they supposedly edited out the parts of this seance that contain the information that they have given to SAPOL, what's left leaves a few clues.
"Fisherman" probably relates to the ABCTV documentary called fisherman, which presented James Ryan O'Neill as a suspect.
There is a name of a Port or Marina and possibly a name of a boat in parts that weren't edited out. This might provide something that could be independently assessed.
And they seem to be asserting that there are two men involved. An 18 year old and an older man who's already passed over into the spirit world. This probably means that they appear to be accusing O'Neil and Phipps.
It's asserted in this video that they were told something from the spirit world that could lead to physical evidence being found. I don't know if they're talking about a dump site as I presume that the talk about a boat probably means that they're saying about bodies weren't hidden on land. Hard to assess with the complete allegations being edited out. Hopefully whatever they say that they gave to SAPOL isn't as vague in specific details as this.
That's it for my guess to what this seance video is all about.
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I have my doubts about anything paranormal and always will unless proven otherwise. However, we need to remember that this case has been unsolved for nearly 60 years. As far as l can see, this theory is no less valid than satin clothes, pound notes, dodgy witnesses, money-makers and digging numerous holes at great expense.

That being said, some here will know that l have always believed Derek Percy (aged 17.5) was Jane's boyfriend at the beach and that he killed the children. I believe his father helped cover the crime and the disposal of the bodies. Percy's parents had already covered for him in previous crimes involving children. They were enthusiastic sailors and owned a boat. It is very probable they were in Adelaide at the time. Stabbing was Percy's preferred perversion.

Worth a thought anyway.
 
diorama said:
There are 6 apparent "witnesses" that i'm aware of.

1) Nancy Beaumont - and i haven't seen the original press report - is said to have confirmed, a few days after the abduction, that they left at 8:35 - seems to give them plenty of time to make the 8:45 bus.

2) The neighbour across the road, who asked "where's your bikini Nancy?" should have been able to confirm the time, or otherwise. (The Missing Beaumont Children - Michael Madigan)

3) The friend Nancy visited after finishing housework at 10. May add additional confirmation that they went to the bus stop well before 10. (The Missing Beaumont Children - Michael Madigan)

4) Darlington man who called The News to describe his wife's account of the kids on the 8:45 bus. The wife, a cub leader starting a new job in Glenelg at 9, describes the little boy putting his hand out of the window, the oldest sister scolding him, then walking to the back of the bus to read her book (on a 5 minute bus trip). No bus driver to confirm any of this. Doesn't appear to have been reported to police, the witness may not have spoken to anyone else. We don't really know if she even existed. Cubs personnel around Darlington at the time might be really interesting, or entirely irrelevant. (The Missing Beaumont Children - Michael Madigan)

5) Ian Munro, driver of the 10:10 bus, remembered the kids getting on, but can't remember when or where they got off the bus. (various news sources) He died 10 years ago, so there's another lost opportunity.

6) Jane's friend Jenny, not on either bus, described previous trips she'd been on with the kids, particularly describing the way Jane helped Grant down the steps, holding him to her hip. Which should have made their departure fairly noticeable, unless it was a routine Ian was so used to that he'd stopped noticing. (edit:S____ M___ toilet paper series)

There's more detail on the 8:45 description, but sounds more like someone who's observed the kids in a less confined, brief-trip setting. No mention of how busy the bus was, but Jane wandering off to the back of the bus seems inconsistent with descriptions from people who knew her best. Either the best witness or a probable suspect.

Witness accounts at the beach don't appear to exist before 11am (depending on when Tom Patterson actually saw them). That leaves a gap of either ~50 minutes or a little over 2 hours where they seem to have gone entirely unseen.

I don't think either bus witness was satisfactory (allowing for the fact that police might have far more detail than has been disclosed) and generally agree with Ray Kelly's reasoning that an abductor wouldn't attract attention asking about stolen money, so consider option 3 (or some variant) - someone they knew, possibly the father of Jane's "boyfriend", saw them at the bus stop, picked them up, took them to see his son (and possibly other siblings/new friends) who couldn't go out in that heat, dropped them at the beach, parked his car, got changed, laid on the grass, played with them a while, noticed money missing, tried to find the stolen money, dropped them back at/near the bus stop, where the Adelaide Oval sketch came to life, showing them a cat running under/behind an unoccupied house (last week of school holidays, and one house likely vacant after the owner's death 6 months earlier, next door had a boy Jane's age, so the absence of bus stop witnesses suggests they were away, too) - and whatever happened from there was horrific.
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Hold on... what is this about showing the kids a cat under a house...this same MO came up in the Adelaide Oval case. There was talk of a man offering to show the girls some cats playing under cars in the car park. I was just reading about it. I'm new to these cases. Has this link already been established, or have I misunderstood your post?
 

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Ostins_Park said:
Hold on... what is this about showing the kids a cat under a house...this same MO came up in the Adelaide Oval case. There was talk of a man offering to show the girls some cats playing under cars in the car park. I was just reading about it. I'm new to these cases. Has this link already been established, or have I misunderstood your post?
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I've used that as an example of what might have happened because it was the Adelaide Oval MO. Multiple non-domestic multiple-child abductions are not common enough to think that 2 such incidents within a decade in the same city were likely. That is: they're more probably than not the same perpetrator.
 
Flying_as_One1991 said:
Sorry but what a crock of shit does anyone actually believe any of this?
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The bunch of ghost whispers are from Victoria.
The Dolly Chic says she doesn't follow true crime. So how does she have all the main players on the screen.
You would think when they refer to the "Fisherman" refers to the shot of Monroe spear fishing photo.
There was no substance in their presentation> sapol would be rolling their eyes.
 
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The bunch of ghost whispers are from Victoria.
The Dolly Chic says she doesn't follow true crime. So how does she have all the main players on the screen.
You would think when they refer to the "Fisherman" refers to the shot of Monroe spear fishing photo.
There was no substance in their presentation> sapol would be rolling their eyes.
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If Sapol are rolling their eyes then that's the wrong approach. Of course, without corroboration the otherworldly wouldn't be admissible in a court of law, but surely Sapol are duty bound to follow up leads of any kind, and the ladies in this video are claiming to have presented the police with details of where evidence might be available. So, go have a look.
 
diorama said:
I've used that as an example of what might have happened because it was the Adelaide Oval MO. Multiple non-domestic multiple-child abductions are not common enough to think that 2 such incidents within a decade in the same city were likely. That is: they're more probably than not the same perpetrator.
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Yeah okay, understood.

I'm less convinced there's a direct link between the two cases. Or at least, I believe there's a possibility the BC case remaining unsolved may have emboldened the perpetrator in 1973.

My own theory for AO is that the perpetrator was from out of town, because he clearly did not give a flying fig about being seen by witnesses.

AO seems opportunistic whereas everything about the BC case appears to point to a planned operation.
 
johnymac1 said:
The bunch of ghost whispers are from Victoria.
The Dolly Chic says she doesn't follow true crime. So how does she have all the main players on the screen.
You would think when they refer to the "Fisherman" refers to the shot of Monroe spear fishing photo.
There was no substance in their presentation> sapol would be rolling their eyes.
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No its definitely the Tassie guy

The post is what you would get if you asked ChatGp for a summary of this thread
 
DropBearess said:
I have my doubts about anything paranormal and always will unless proven otherwise. However, we need to remember that this case has been unsolved for nearly 60 years. As far as l can see, this theory is no less valid than satin clothes, pound notes, dodgy witnesses, money-makers and digging numerous holes at great expense.

That being said, some here will know that l have always believed Derek Percy (aged 17.5) was Jane's boyfriend at the beach and that he killed the children. I believe his father helped cover the crime and the disposal of the bodies. Percy's parents had already covered for him in previous crimes involving children. They were enthusiastic sailors and owned a boat. It is very probable they were in Adelaide at the time. Stabbing was Percy's preferred perversion.

Worth a thought anyway.
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I want to know who the "fisherman" is and which POIs owned a boat in the Adelaide area. Either way, they're all scumbags.

Dumping the dead at sea is far more efficient than on land.
 
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