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Autopsy 2025 Rd 9 Injury plagued Blues defeat Saints

Who played well for the Blues in Round 9 vs the Saints?

  • 1. Jack Silvagni

    Votes: 139 93.3%
  • 2. Lachie Cowan (injured and out late second quarter)

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • 3. Jesse Motlop

    Votes: 20 13.4%
  • 4. Ollie Hollands

    Votes: 58 38.9%
  • 5. Adam Cerra

    Votes: 67 45.0%
  • 9. Patrick Cripps

    Votes: 87 58.4%
  • 10. Harry McKay

    Votes: 141 94.6%
  • 11. Mitch McGovern (Subbed off injured at Quarter time)

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • 12. Tom De Koning

    Votes: 69 46.3%
  • 13. Blake Acres

    Votes: 33 22.1%
  • 18. Sam Walsh

    Votes: 93 62.4%
  • 19. Corey Durdin

    Votes: 21 14.1%
  • 20. Elijah Hollands

    Votes: 78 52.3%
  • 23. Jacob Weitering

    Votes: 109 73.2%
  • 25. Jaxon Binns

    Votes: 82 55.0%
  • 26. Nick Haynes

    Votes: 128 85.9%
  • 29. George Hewett

    Votes: 116 77.9%
  • 30. Charlie Curnow

    Votes: 97 65.1%
  • 33. Lewis Young

    Votes: 87 58.4%
  • 36. Cooper Lord (Subbed on at Quarter time)

    Votes: 85 57.0%
  • 38. Will White

    Votes: 29 19.5%
  • 42. Adam Saad

    Votes: 106 71.1%
  • 44. Frank Evans

    Votes: 11 7.4%

  • Total voters
    149
  • Poll closed .

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I was asking for Motlop to be dropped this week. Slapped myself well and good after the game.

Has genuine poise. That last quarter was class.

I'm now thinking he's being kept in the 1's, just learning a new role and it’s probably just taking longer than we'd all like to really start contributing.

Those saying he did nothing first 3qs should go back to the great goal Durdin set up on a plate for, I think it was McKay.

Walsh on the outside of the contest, hard running to give I think it was Hewett winning another clearance (great game, great year) popping the ball over a Saints player's head.

I'm thinking ah, nice stuff, but worried about Walsh kicking into the 50, and he can't quite hit Charlie leading hard, but it was pretty well drilled, and Charlie does great to bring the ball to ground, and before I had seen what happened, Durds has just shown excellent composure to lower the eyes and execute a perfectly weighted, accurate pass to Haz( also had an amazing game, still looks a little wobbly with the occasional kick after a free or a mark, bit of an over thinker I'd say with my amateur psychologist hat on, bu he was pretty good all night, and iced that goal in the face of what looked like an adult Taints fan, but was obviously a toddler having a tanty)

But then I saw the replay and realised Motlop had gathered the crumb from Charlie's contest, from a perfect front and centre, and then he's dished off a lightening little give that released Durds

Lovely stuff.
 
Lewy Young has become a cult figure amongst my group of Blues supporters mates.
We find positive’s even in the negatives. He is a crucial part of the side.
And now that he’s added kpf to his role…lookout!
 
Lewy Young has become a cult figure amongst my group of Blues supporters mates.
We find positive’s even in the negatives. He is a crucial part of the side.
And now that he’s added kpf to his role…lookout!
Safe hands …has become a very handy kpf player…gives our forward mix a different look.

Can mark but has a bit more of team oriented play about him and as a result I feel our ball carriers feel less pressure in alway kicking it to him so our distribution into f50 becomes less predictable compared to when only H and Charlie are in there.

I feel with H and Charlie and even Cripps in f50 players go to them even when better options present.
 

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Given the injury situation we found ourselves in and Saints ability to flatline a game of footy; all up ok and happy with that.

Loved JSoS again down back. What a find. Liked Saad, like Lord in terms of kicking, and finding the time to pick a target. Liked Hewett and Mckay. Binns is an odd one. Liked and hated him all in the one game. Hopefully he can improve and lessen the dislikable moments.

Overall think we are up against it for higher honours. We are still very one-dimensional and have to work so hard while always leaving the door open through poor kicking/decision making/count attack. Much better emotional/physical effort this week.

Typical we find ourselves in this predicament with TDK. Seriously don't know why anyone talks 1.7m. Another line ball win maybe at best against Saints ruck.
Saad was good last night but he really needs to work on defending a stoppage in d50.

Gets caught ball watching.

Let Sinclair role right through the stoppage and kick that goal that almost got them going again in he last quarter.
 
Key efforts by Cripps and Hewett’s inside to draw opponents into tackles, always keeping their hands free and releasing set up many clearances out the front of the pack which converted to scores.

Walsh slaloming through 5 Saints was a highlight.

Harry involved in everything in the last quarter. Composure to set up both Lords goal and Elijah’s behind. Then scored the sealer himself.

Feels like the first time in a while we played with footy smarts. The composure in key plays in the last quarter was pleasing, waiting and not blazing away.

Saints are a bunch of scrubs that are experts at bringing teams down to their level and slogging it out. Was so funny to see them try to counter attack in the last few minutes with 20 players parked in D50!
 
we needed to win

And we got the job done

I’m liking our wins. Theyve all been good wins.

This one was a bit scrappy at times but by in large there was some nice things on show…

Jack has come on big time…he’s got everything going well…marking, kicking, composure, read on play…and general footy smarts. He’s giving us excellent drive off half back.

I paid particular attention to our f50 entries…and I’m pretty excited that there is a clear shift away from long bombs - Jack Walsh white Eliza H and others all lowering eyes 👀

Our run and spread on a few occasions was super impressive. Quick handballs in congestion to running team mates 👌👌

Loving the smallish players …Binns was good (2 nice goals) white very energetic, lord doing some nice things , Motlop was better late in the game

I’m very happy with that win.
Jack has really matured well.
 
Quick thoughts:

  • I was out of phone range last week and missed the Crows game. I just think the way we play means we will have weeks where we are not up to the contest. That’s a problem. But with where our list and game management is at, it is going to happen
  • when we are on, we win more often than not. We were on last night.
  • I’m stuffed if I know why I hadn’t realised JSOS is such a great user of the ball until this year. He makes a massive difference
  • I love Haynes and I love White. Nice to see us nail it with some moneyball recruiting
  • the tackles which stuck is the most notable statistical output of last night. It makes a massive difference to hit them as well as we did
  • I don’t know if it is blind hope, but I still think with the new fitness regime that we will be better in the second half of the year than the first. We must hang in there.
  • the handball on the wing from Cooper Lord which set up the play early in the last quarter that resulted in Elijah shooting for goal was delicious. And kudos to Sam Walsh for lowering the eyes and hitting Elijah rather than blazing away.

A solid win. Now to try and bury our SCG hoodoo.
 
Bank the 4 and run with that one.

How we tackle/ perform against Sydney away is what really interests me
I wouldn't be so quick to run...that's a win to enjoy and learn from.

We managed our setbacks, absorbed their momentum...we could have actually killed the game earlier with five good I50 entries in the last going goalless.
 
How would you rate our system against setting up against defending the opposition kick ins, or the lack of general defensive high press, we’re allowing teams to move the ball far to easily against us, we don’t possess multiple alternative options…
Same goes for our own kicking out system, which has been a joke, throughout the current coaching regime…
The coverage on Fox last night showed the scoring from defensive 50 chains; we got 33 points from D50, with the league average being 16. A single stat alone cannot tell a story, but for all the way it 'looks', we were pretty good there last night.

Go back to 2010-11, the media was promoting scores from kick-in, scores from turnover and scores from stoppage because Malthouse at Collingwood was talking about them. Over the next 4 seasons - the rise of Hawthorn - scores from kick-ins ceased being discussed, because while Hawthorn were pinpoint the opposition having time to set up behind the ball killed the notion that any given score was generated directly from the kick in. Now, I don't think we're bad at it exactly - we'll get to why in a minute - but the disconnect here is I think due to the difference between the eye test and what the stats say. The stats will tell you that we sit at either an average rate or above for D50 transition outside of the first week of the season - Metres gained, inside 50's, rebound 50's, d50 scoring chains - where your eyes tell you that other teams - Sydney, Collingwood, Adelaide - are much prettier to look at.

This is because we're as tall as all hell in defense. We do it because we seek to intercept the ball through midfield and behind the ball rather than doing so closer. We concede the 50 - because you can't pin them within it the way you used to because of the goalsquare thing; they simply get too much penetration on the kick - and we set up to try and hem them in on either side of the ground whilst protecting the corridor.

Does it always work? No. It works an awful lot, though.

The problem I have with taking the view that we're without system or the system's poor is that it's clearly just not true. Our defense has been extremely competant this year. Check the points against at the end of the round - it's not reflective at the moment, because most of the top 8 haven't played yet - but we've had one of the best defenses by score all season. We set up to intercept the ball, playing 4 interceptors - Weitering, Silvagni, McGovern, Haynes - with Saad and one other (Cowan, Ollie Hollands; it was interesting last night that we even threw Young behind the ball late last night, lifting it to 5 intercept defenders) completing the six. For every setup there are pros and cons; for this one, the pros are that you're gonna be marking the ball if the opposition rush their kicks at all, which is what pressure around the ball is supposed to generate. The cons are that if you don't mark it you're going to be much slower if and when it hits the ground; this is mitigated some by Jack's and Haynes' desperation - and Saad was sensational last night - but it means when things don't work - we don't intercept, the ball hits the ground, the zone is pierced upfield and it becomes a sprint back to d50 - things look very average.

The eye says the system broke down because it did, but the eye doesn't see that that particular break down only happens once/twice a game. The rest of the time, it's coldly, mechanically turning kicks inside D50 into intercept marks for us.
 

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Ideally Cripps moves away from the loopy handballs which are prone our players being caught in awkward situations…ie mcgov situation 🤦‍♂️
I've said it before recently, but his handballs haven't been as good as we know they can be, and I have no idea why
 
Does anyone know where you can find the breakdown of experience and age?

I felt like we were younger and less experienced last night, or very close to it.
 
Ths nonsense about the umpiring is tiresome. If you are good enough they are inconsequential. It is a tough 360 degrees game that is difficult to umpire and at the top level everything happens at high speed. Having a go at umpiring is a cop out.
logic applies to everyone. Players coaches and umpires. Not a good enough reason for outlandishly bad decisions. Just like it's not really ok to shank an unpressured kick and miss an open team mate. Some won't be good enough, some will have shockers. Let people vent when it happens.
 

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That was a gutsy win with the number of injuries and how badly we got flogged last week.

Some good signs of modest progress wrt lowering eyes and choosing hit ups going forward instead of blazing.

Real takeaway for me was neither of those teams are making a meaningful dent in the comp this year. Our lack of outside speed and footskills remains an unfixable Achilles heel until significant list renovations can be made. NWM stood out to me life as by far the best mover/ball user on the ground in an otherwise pretty dour slog.

Having proper talls at either end was the key difference in the game I thought. Harry was good and finished his work and the game. I want an enquiry into why Curnow has been playing one handed for two seasons. We keep hearing knee, but that left shoulder looks like he can’t get his arm above his head.

Hope the banged up guys recover, there were a lot of sore, hobbling Blues out there!
it was a poor spectacle.... so many skill errors... we are playing with the weight of the world on our shoulders...

Kids all did well.
 
I don't want to be dramatic, but if we don't give Silvagni the contract he deserves I will burn the place to the ground...that which doesn't burn I will crush...smelt all 16 cups...and then I'll salt the earth.

When the whips were cracking in the last he was the guy orchestrating our defense. Born leader.
# JacksSeethingRage'sSeethingRage...
 

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