Recommitted Ashton Moir [signs 2 year deal]

[Obeanie1]

The other source is wrong and assumed he got 3 years as a first rounder

Well if you say so.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Well if you say so.

Well cal twomey too
ASHTON Moir is the only first-rounder from the 2023 Telstra AFL Draft unsigned beyond October, but Carlton is working on a new deal for the South Australian.

 

[Taylor]

If West Coast want him they get him for free. A pick #29 from two years ago who didn't get a game until he's about to be out of contract can walk to the bottom side in the PSD or a third round pick - he hasn't gone up in value without half a season of exposed form.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If West Coast want him they get him for free. A pick #29 from two years ago who didn't get a game until he's about to be out of contract can walk to the bottom side in the PSD or a third round pick - he hasn't gone up in value without half a season of exposed form.

He played last year...

Rising star nom 6 games into his career I'd say he's going just fine.

 

[Taylor]

He played last year...

Rising star nom 6 games into his career I'd say he's going just fine.

He's played six games and half of them have involved a substitute. More than half of his career goals were in his last game, four against Melbourne.

He does not have exposed form.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

He's played six games and half of them have involved a substitute. More than half of his career goals were in his last game, four against Melbourne.

He does not have exposed form.

Player who was coming off a bad injury in his 18s year and has struggled with his tank to date played substitute a few times... Must be a bust.

Theres a reason he's being talked about after the Melbourne game. Even against Brisbane the week before and the Pies one before that it was clear the talent he has once he builds his endurance and physique. Could be anything if he continues to develop his work rate and tank.

 

[Taylor]

Player who was coming off a bad injury in his 18s year and has struggled with his tank to date played substitute a few times... Must be a bust.

Theres a reason he's being talked about after the Melbourne game. Even against Brisbane the week before and the Pies one before that it was clear the talent he has once he builds his endurance and physique. Could be anything if he continues to develop his work rate and tank.

And if he decides his future is at WC you'll be lucky to get a third round pick for him. His value has not risen.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

And if he decides his future is at WC you'll be lucky to get a third round pick for him. His value has not risen.

Good thing he's got another month to bump it up then!

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

Why on earth would he want to go to the West Coast? I get we arent going too well but thats the last spot im wanting to go if im a forward

 

[Taylor]

Why on earth would he want to go to the West Coast? I get we arent going too well but thats the last spot im wanting to go if im a forward

They've got a lot more money to spend. That 90% of McGovern's salary next year coming off the cap has to go somewhere.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

They've got a lot more money to spend. That 90% of McGovern's salary next year coming off the cap has to go somewhere.

So does the TDK money we're set to have freed up

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

They've got a lot more money to spend. That 90% of McGovern's salary next year coming off the cap has to go somewhere.

why would they want to pay all that money on a bloke whose value "has not risen" since he was drafted 2 years ago

 

[Taylor]

why would they want to pay all that money on a bloke whose value "has not risen" since he was drafted 2 years ago

Because it doesn't have to be much to beat Carlton's offer. We are talking $100k here and it's over the top, move to WA and live with family here.

Carlton aren't known for paying their outside the top 25 players all that much money.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Freo melts and their never ending death ride of the Blues.

Jack Newnes

32

Jack Newnes

Age

32

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

11.3

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.3

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.4

3star

really did a number on that supporter base.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

Because it doesn't have to be much to beat Carlton's offer. We are talking $100k here and it's over the top, move to WA and live with family here.

Carlton aren't known for paying their outside the top 25 players all that much money.

This logic can be applied to any uncontracted player in the league. Reality is players don’t wanna go to a team that’s winning 1 game and getting smacked by bottom 4 teams

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

look at what’s happened to owies.

 

[bzparkes]

Why would Carlton let the only half decent small forward/hybrid forward we've had on the list since Betts go for pick 19 when we've been crying out for one for close to a decade?

We've got a mature small forward who kicked 30+ goals last season that'd look just great in navy blue

 

[Taylor]

look at what’s happened to owies.

He's actually a perfect example, wasn't offered a contract at all by Carlton and has had his career extended at WC. He had played 23 games for the Blues that year before being shown the door.

Moir would have watched his fellow forward and seen what happens, needing to get his future secured.

The primary point is that if WC have turned his head, Carlton will be lucky to get a pick in trade for him ahead of the third round. They can get him for free.

 

[bzparkes]

Why on earth would he want to go to the West Coast? I get we arent going too well but thats the last spot im wanting to go if im a forward

Because he was a massive WCE fan pre-draft and wanted to go there.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

He's actually a perfect example, wasn't offered a contract at all by Carlton and has had his career extended at WC. He had played 23 games for the Blues that year before being shown the door.

Moir would have watched his fellow forward and seen what happens, needing to get his future secured.

The primary point is that if WC have turned his head, Carlton will be lucky to get a pick in trade for him ahead of the third round. They can get him for free.

Moir will be offered a contract. so its not the perfect example at all. Hes watched owies go from 33 to 6 goals and thinks thats where i should be?

 

[THE_GUN]

Because he is out of contract and gets a better offer and asks for a trade.

Can we please not get bogged down in the BS argument the club wont let players leave.

When a player is out of contract they decide where they play. Often under contract players get their wish.

And if the player chooses the wooden spoon club then the existing club takes what it can get. Or if it's Geelong, they seem to trade in players at 50 cents 8n the dollar every second year.

He was selected with pick 20. Pick 19 if offered is bloody generous and lands a replacement quality small forward.

100%

Eagles would be mad not to be in his ear and give him an offer he cant refuse

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

He's actually a perfect example, wasn't offered a contract at all by Carlton and has had his career extended at WC. He had played 23 games for the Blues that year before being shown the door.

Moir would have watched his fellow forward and seen what happens, needing to get his future secured.

The primary point is that if WC have turned his head, Carlton will be lucky to get a pick in trade for him ahead of the third round. They can get him for free.

Owies could barely kick on the run he was that ordinary.

Had a dream gig at Carlton with Curnow and Mckay beside him and will probably be out of the league in a few years now that he's been put in a team that doesn't give him silver service.

Moir actually has talent. And a lot of it.

 

[Taylor]

Moir actually has talent. And a lot of it.

And it's going to suck for Carlton if he walks to WC. His manager is hopefully using that leverage to bump up the Carlton offer and then taking it back to WC to match.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

And it's going to suck for Carlton if he walks to WC. His manager is hopefully using that leverage to bump up the Carlton offer and then taking it back to WC to match.

It's going to suck for you when he re-signs in 3 weeks and your eternal death ride once again fails to deliver.

 

[Taylor]

It's going to suck for you when he re-signs in 3 weeks and your eternal death ride once again fails to deliver.

I'll be happy for Carlton in that eventuality. I'm hoping Sam gets an extra special effort this Thursday too.

Last thing I want is WC getting talent for free.