Autopsy Round 20, 2025: Positives and Negatives vs Fremantle

[Eaglemaniac]

I actually asked my Freo supporting mates why he was getting booed and with a straight face one of them said it was because of all the times he was on the back page of The West last year.

They really are nuffies.

 

[woosha26]

Pros -

Held together well , especially finishing the game with 3 goals in the last 5 minutes .

Tim Kelly best game for a while looked relaxed and up to the level .

Liam Baker , great game effort was very good .

Flynn toiled hard against the odds .

Harley continued good form , kicking two goals . Certainly cops a bit from the crowd .

McCarthy best MSD pick so far , so poised .
Maric and Hutchinson solid also .

Cons -

Fremantle won .

Your a dickhead what team team is going to be worse, than us in the next 3 years. Your mate Shuestar 13 is a as well. 80% of the team improving they, would have to improve just as much to make any difference. how much is Yeo improving. I am not miserable bustard just realistic. Your a ****ing Clown. Get your mate o get head out of your arse.

 

[woosha26]

Your a dickhead what team team is going to be worse, than us in the next 3 years. Your mate Shuestar 13 is a as well. 80% of the team improving they, would have to improve just as much to make any difference. how much is Yeo improving. I am not miserable bustard just realistic. Your a ****ing Clown. Get your mate o get head out of your arse.

 

[woosha26]

Oh dear

 

[jdisc]

I am not miserable bustard

 

[bzparkes]

Freo supporting mates

Well, there's your problem right there.

 

[Shuestar13]

And we have had people in the Non Eagles thread actually not being against the idea of them (Fremantle) winning a flag. Words fail me.

A rancid excuse for a club for whom one wishes all involved (including supporters) football pain and misery.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I was a bit shocked that the turnover stats were about even between the two clubs. It felt like we had twice as many turnovers as they did. Maybe it's just that our turnovers were way worse than theirs in terms of where on the ground they hapenned such as in open space in the corridor etc. And Freo definately punished our turnovers much more efficiently than we punished theirs. McQualter needs to find a way to reduce those really bad turnovers. It wasn't that Freo were really good yesterday, more than they made way less mistakes/unforced errors than we did and punished those mistakes pretty efficiently.

 

[Dark Sharks]

+ McCarthy was solid, good to see he pushed through and bounced back a bit from a down couple of weeks.

+ Best game Kelly has played all season, if not longer. Well done pal.

+ Despite the 1000 free kicks, i actually thought Harley played pretty mature. Scoreboard impact was good, but i honestly reckon the club and him have sat down already and he's committed. He knows he has to set the tone, he knows the bulk of the AFL world is against him at the moment, he's willing to play the part. You could see him try to get the boys up and about and how much his running goal meant to him with Kelly.

+ Baker was good again

+ Cripps had one of his better games. 16D, 4 tackles, 2 goals.

+ Hall is building into the season nicely as an inside grunt that gets lumped on the gimp wing.





- Owies, enough said.

- Ginbey off day. Personally i think he's going to end up quite a vanilla player for a high draft pick but you still need those in your team. Think he'll end up following the Sheppard trajectory, which would be very handy.

- A.Reid had about as much impact as Jilliams did last week. Jobe was quiet as well, but not near as invisible as Archer. Once again, i'm adamant Reid/Jilliams can't be in the same team as Bailey. We need to piss Bailey off and then try them as 2nd ruck KPF's.

- Hutchinson annoys me, but his ratio to of "does a spud thing" to "does a good thing" is pretty balanced.

- Was pretty disappointed with Hewett tbh. He's the one that needs to be stepping up and impacting a game whilst all the attention is on Harley. 14 disposals just isn't going to cut it, take out that late goal and it'd look even worse.

- Hough isn't a midfielder. I really reckon we've gone too far the other way robbing an elite lockdown/half back in exchange for a below average midfielder. Not to take anything away from his clamp of Serong, i just think it's a wasted idea. Give that role to a young spud or a developing player and let Hough go back to being an elite stopper.

- Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

can't kick for shit, straight up. I lost confidence every time he lines up.


Overall it was pretty grim. Desperately need an injection of something. Gross maybe.

 

[ziad]

+ McCarthy was solid, good to see he pushed through and bounced back a bit from a down couple of weeks.

+ Best game Kelly has played all season, if not longer. Well done pal.

+ Despite the 1000 free kicks, i actually thought Harley played pretty mature. Scoreboard impact was good, but i honestly reckon the club and him have sat down already and he's committed. He knows he has to set the tone, he knows the bulk of the AFL world is against him at the moment, he's willing to play the part. You could see him try to get the boys up and about and how much his running goal meant to him with Kelly.

+ Baker was good again

+ Cripps had one of his better games. 16D, 4 tackles, 2 goals.

+ Hall is building into the season nicely as an inside grunt that gets lumped on the gimp wing.





- Owies, enough said.

- Ginbey off day. Personally i think he's going to end up quite a vanilla player for a high draft pick but you still need those in your team. Think he'll end up following the Sheppard trajectory, which would be very handy.

- A.Reid had about as much impact as Jilliams did last week. Jobe was quiet as well, but not near as invisible as Archer. Once again, i'm adamant Reid/Jilliams can't be in the same team as Bailey. We need to piss Bailey off and then try them as 2nd ruck KPF's.

- Hutchinson annoys me, but his ratio to of "does a spud thing" to "does a good thing" is pretty balanced.

- Was pretty disappointed with Hewett tbh. He's the one that needs to be stepping up and impacting a game whilst all the attention is on Harley. 14 disposals just isn't going to cut it, take out that late goal and it'd look even worse.

- Hough isn't a midfielder. I really reckon we've gone too far the other way robbing an elite lockdown/half back in exchange for a below average midfielder. Not to take anything away from his clamp of Serong, i just think it's a wasted idea. Give that role to a young spud or a developing player and let Hough go back to being an elite stopper.

- Liam Ryan can't kick for shit, straight up. I lost confidence every time he lines up.


Overall it was pretty grim. Desperately need an injection of something. Gross maybe.

Fair generally. Interesting that harley was haveing composed mature chats with umpires. a good thing. What impressed me was thet he was giving direction to team mates - signs of a good IQ and emerging onfield leadership.

Of your negatives I think a hard pre-season - gym tough stuff and hard running intervals will help build confidence. 80% above the shoulders. Perhaps Ginbey is the outlier - he needs to be left as a HBF to play his role without being asked to do too much as in lead the defence.

 

[random260]

Ginbey's game confirmed a lot of doubts I’ve had all along about recruiting bang-average kicks off half-back.

Let’s just recruit a bunch of average ball users in the backline and hope it works—it’s such an easy flaw for opposition teams to exploit.

Opponents will happily let Ginbey, Hall, and Allan have the ball in the back half, knowing full well they’ll just thump it long down the line. Because their kicking is too limited to do anything else

That plays straight into the opposition’s setup, because it highly predictable.

Now its still a small sample size. So let's see if opposition wise up to this tactics.

Ginbey does make a good lock down defender so it works out. Don't trust him as a distributor

 

[Grahame]

For every hanger he takes he gives away two frees for unrealistic attempt. It's not worth it. And if they can't put it on his chest or out in front of him then they should be looking for a taller target.

Agree to an extent. I think there may well be a taller target in the group in front of Harley, but he reckons he can come from four deep and take a screamer. Low percentage. Selfish. Injury? Better he stays down and crumbs a goal.

 

[Cuzz09]

Can I just ask when was the last time a team kicked a perfect score? Like no points?

Can’t recall one, can you?

So hand wringing about what could have been is just that. Our two talls down back had less than 40 games experience between them. I think they did ok.

Just saying they're scoreline often flatters one side thats all.

Not having a go at the backline, the midfield if anything

 

[Cuzz09]

lol at people saying innacuracy isn't a factor.

 

[Avalor]

+ McCarthy was solid, good to see he pushed through and bounced back a bit from a down couple of weeks.

+ Best game Kelly has played all season, if not longer. Well done pal.

+ Despite the 1000 free kicks, i actually thought Harley played pretty mature. Scoreboard impact was good, but i honestly reckon the club and him have sat down already and he's committed. He knows he has to set the tone, he knows the bulk of the AFL world is against him at the moment, he's willing to play the part. You could see him try to get the boys up and about and how much his running goal meant to him with Kelly.

+ Baker was good again

+ Cripps had one of his better games. 16D, 4 tackles, 2 goals.

+ Hall is building into the season nicely as an inside grunt that gets lumped on the gimp wing.





- Owies, enough said.

- Ginbey off day. Personally i think he's going to end up quite a vanilla player for a high draft pick but you still need those in your team. Think he'll end up following the Sheppard trajectory, which would be very handy.

- A.Reid had about as much impact as Jilliams did last week. Jobe was quiet as well, but not near as invisible as Archer. Once again, i'm adamant Reid/Jilliams can't be in the same team as Bailey. We need to piss Bailey off and then try them as 2nd ruck KPF's.

- Hutchinson annoys me, but his ratio to of "does a spud thing" to "does a good thing" is pretty balanced.

- Was pretty disappointed with Hewett tbh. He's the one that needs to be stepping up and impacting a game whilst all the attention is on Harley. 14 disposals just isn't going to cut it, take out that late goal and it'd look even worse.

- Hough isn't a midfielder. I really reckon we've gone too far the other way robbing an elite lockdown/half back in exchange for a below average midfielder. Not to take anything away from his clamp of Serong, i just think it's a wasted idea. Give that role to a young spud or a developing player and let Hough go back to being an elite stopper.

- Liam Ryan can't kick for shit, straight up. I lost confidence every time he lines up.


Overall it was pretty grim. Desperately need an injection of something. Gross maybe.

On point. The result, whilst disappointing, was to be expected. From last year's team, no Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Sheed, Allen and Waterman - that's all our spine wiped out. You do that to any team in the league, same result. No wins.

 

[Bender_]

lol at people saying innacuracy isn't a factor.

A factor of what? Does it reflect poorly on the team kicking at goal and missing? Or does it reflect positively on the defense of the opposition that has pushed their forwards to tough conversion spots or making them kick under pressure?

Regardless, the "if" camp can always paint things as negative as they like, however it won't change the fact that was happened has happened, and you shouldn't need something extra to whinge about anyway.

 

[Cuzz09]

Bunbury, innacuracy, factor in the result of the game.

It's all good

 

[Priddis Is Done]

We have won one game this year and that is backwards. After four years of hell there is almost nothing pointing to improvement. The only positive this year is the back of Simpson and a semi combative style, but rest assured we are at least 10 or more quality AFL players short of a list.

There are very few floggings. No 150 point beltings.

Our percentage is around 20% better than last year.

We are in games for longer. We are a hell of a lot more competitive, 80% of the time.

Pull your head put of your entitled ar$$. No offence meant.

 

[Cobbler]

There are very few floggings. No 150 point beltings.

Our percentage is around 20% better than last year.

We are in games for longer. We are a hell of a lot more competitive, 80% of the time.

Pull your head put of your entitled ar$$. No offence meant.

2024 - 68.1%
2025 - 63.5%

That’s 4.6% less. Not 20% better.

LOL.

 

[Grumpyshades]

Inbred freo ferals who boo'd and abused Harley all game, then doubled down when he went off injured are now having a massive sook because Harley 'shushed' them

they are a truly a special breed

 

[Doashuey]

Played on Treacy and held him goal less

Yep. There is a difference between controversial and clueless.

 

[Cuzz09]

2024 - 68.1%
2025 - 63.5%

That’s 4.6% less. Not 20% better.

LOL.

I was wondering what he was on about

 

[Balls In]

There are very few floggings. No 150 point beltings.

Our percentage is around 20% better than last year.

We are in games for longer. We are a hell of a lot more competitive, 80% of the time.

Pull your head put of your entitled ar$$. No offence meant.

We won 5 games last year vs 1 this year that's a pretty big drop off. You can argue it's down to injuries to key players but equally that's just shown us a glimpse of where are at without those players (who mostly aren't coming back). Yeah there's been some good signs here and there but other than Harley, Gibney and perhaps Edwards there been precious little by the way of genuine break out seasons from that next cohort.

 

[tigger_ferret]

Overall it was pretty grim. Desperately need an injection of something.

Never go full Essendon

 

[DorothyG]

There are very few floggings.

If you consider+50 pts a flogging we have had 6 this year, plus a couple in the high 40s.

An average lossing margin of 42

I know the last few years have been dire, but I think it has warped some peoples brains to lowering the bar on what is consider a heavy loss