MRP / Trib. Rd 21 - Ginnivan's middle finger.

[Chief]

Thursday
No charges were laid and there were no incidents requiring a detailed explanation.

Friday


Saturday

 

[offtherails9]

So jarring to see fans of a victorious side mock and hurl abuse at young men after a victory, Crows fans amongst those that experience them truely are the worst in the comp

 

[Cyclonus]

So jarring to see fans of a victorious side mock and hurl abuse at young men after a victory, Crows fans amongst those that experience them truely are the worst in the comp

Clutch those pearls any harder and they'll break.

None the less, I don't think a middle finger is worth a fine. If a crowd member gives it out, expect to get it back.

 

[57 Milner]

Correct me if I'm wrong but from the footage I saw I didn't see any members of the crowd flipping the bird. I did see a few gesturing towards their ears and imitating aeroplanes with their arms in Ginnavin like/ hokball fashion.
Guess it was just too much for the precious little fellow to take.

 

[offtherails9]

Clutch those pearls any harder and they'll break.

None the less, I don't think a middle finger is worth a fine. If a crowd member gives it out, expect to get it back.

Nah, I'm not the only one who has this opinion. I think the victim complex of the club after 2023 leading to the failure that was 2024 has really turned the Adelaide fans crazy. It's embarrassing as ****. You have a good side though, and you should be proud of that.
I understand why it's a fine, it's not the look you want from the players. Tricky one though because it's hard for the players to cop so much shit sometimes.

Correct me if I'm wrong but from the footage I saw I didn't see any members of the crowd flipping the bird. I did see a few gesturing towards their ears and imitating aeroplanes with their arms in Ginnavin like/ hokball fashion.
Guess it was just too much for the precious little fellow to take.

The vision didn't actually show the part of the crowd Ginnivan gestured towards. I can only imagine it would've been a barrage of verbal abuse that players visiting SA have had to become used to.

 

[57 Milner]

The vision didn't actually show the part of the crowd Ginnivan gestured towards. I can only imagine .......

Well I guess it's refreshing for a poster to admit they're willing to ignore evidence and instead base their opinion on their imagination.
Perhaps you should lobby to present your case as mitigation on appeal to the MRO on Monday.

 

[Coasters7]

So jarring to see fans of a victorious side mock and hurl abuse at young men after a victory, Crows fans amongst those that experience them truely are the worst in the comp

You reap what you sow. They’ve all brought it on themselves by being so polarising. Can’t expect not to cop it back the other way when teams beat you.

 

[Chief]

Saturday's list is in the OP.

 

[offtherails9]

Well I guess it's refreshing for a poster to admit they're willing to ignore evidence and instead base their opinion on their imagination.
Perhaps you should lobby to present your case as mitigation on appeal to the MRO on Monday.

Well the evidence in the video was the right side of the players race, where fans were abusing the players. You would assume that was the same on the other side of the race which the video didn't show. Not sure I ignored any evidence at all, you struggle with comprehension I suppose.

You reap what you sow. They’ve all brought it on themselves by being so polarising. Can’t expect not to cop it back the other way when teams beat you.

Yeah, I don't think the AFL and Australia were ready for goal celebrations and players visibly enjoying themselves. Rarely if ever were the opposition actually mocked. But people don't want the truth to get in the way of a good hate watch. Ginni has said before re the Hinkley stuff he's happy to give it and cop it and that's a part of footy, hanging over the players race abusing a team when you were hot favourites against an average team at home is weird though.

 

[57 Milner]

Well the evidence in the video was the right side of the players race, where fans were abusing the players. You would assume ....

Yeah well I guess if waving your arms like and aeroplane and gesturing towards your ear constitutes abuse then Ginnavin should be up for a few more reports, but it does make your argument so much better when you couple your assumptions with your imagination.

 

[Coasters7]

Well the evidence in the video was the right side of the players race, where fans were abusing the players. You would assume that was the same on the other side of the race which the video didn't show. Not sure I ignored any evidence at all, you struggle with comprehension I suppose.

Yeah, I don't think the AFL and Australia were ready for goal celebrations and players visibly enjoying themselves. Rarely if ever were the opposition actually mocked. But people don't want the truth to get in the way of a good hate watch. Ginni has said before re the Hinkley stuff he's happy to give it and cop it and that's a part of footy, hanging over the players race abusing a team when you were hot favourites against an average team at home is weird though.

Except they clearly aren’t happy to cop it back which is where the angst is.

Hitting celebrations and showboating when you’re 60 up against a bottom 4 team deserves hate. Especially when they’re the first ones to have a sook when the opponent is winning and giving a bit of lip back.

 

[StackedHunch]

Well I guess it's refreshing for a poster to admit they're willing to ignore evidence and instead base their opinion on their imagination.
Perhaps you should lobby to present your case as mitigation on appeal to the MRO on Monday.

It takes quite a victim complex to be so offended about a finger after your team won. Then again, Adelaide is the only part of the country without the civilised culture of being magnanimous in victory that makes footy a great sport. I even remember a group of your mates mockingly cheering opposition supporters out of the MCG. Unheard of behaviour, but normal for Adelaide. Hence that gormless little cow harassing Ginnivan at the airport.

 

[offtherails9]

Yeah well I guess if waving your arms like and aeroplane and gesturing towards your ear constitutes abuse then Ginnavin should be up for a few more reports, but it does make your argument so much better when you couple your assumptions with your imagination.

Ah yes, they weren't abusing the shit out of him like he copped all night from the area I sat and the area near the race that a friend sat in and heard. Cool. You can't really decide what you're arguing lol.

Except they clearly aren’t happy to cop it back which is where the angst is.

Hitting celebrations and showboating when you’re 60 up against a bottom 4 team deserves hate. Especially when they’re the first ones to have a sook when the opponent is winning and giving a bit of lip back.

They cop it pretty well I reckon, like I just said about Ginni. He would've liked Tex's rebuttal to his celebration, that's the theatre of footy which he's said before he loves. Mucking around and doing a celebration to get the boys up is fine, as I said I don't think Australia is ready for it and that's that. I'm still curious as to when they've mocked other sides and sook when they cop it back though?, celebrating goals isn't mocking, and doing it between the sirens is fair game for the most part within reason.

 

[57 Milner]

It takes quite a victim complex to be so offended about a finger after your team won.

Dude, you seem to be a little confused about who is playing the victim in this thread.
According to your mob it's that sad little Ginny fellow supposedly for copping a burn from the crowd after carrying like a pork chop.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Ginnivan and Watson (with someone else I didn't recognise, may have been a teammate) were eating al fresco at Hecho en Mexico on Swan Street on Sunday night after they'd returned from Adelaide.

Not a crime by any stretch, but fair to suggest that low-key isn't part of their make-up and they'll draw (and mainly relish) the spotlight for as long as their careers go.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Opposition player gets it by the crowd at an AFL game after giving it to the same crowd during the game.

Never has happened before apparently. Not even at Hawthorn home games.

Film at 11.00

 

[PerthBoy86]

Ginnivan and Watson (with someone else I didn't recognise, may have been a teammate) were eating al fresco at Hecho en Mexico on Swan Street on Sunday night after they'd returned from Adelaide.

Not a crime by any stretch, but fair to suggest that low-key isn't part of their make-up and they'll draw (and mainly relish) the spotlight for as long as their careers go.

Players aren't allowed to dine out in public?

 

[PerthBoy86]

Don't know what the crowd said, no doubt a few choices words. Let them have a bit of banter etc. With the way the word is going we'll be copping fines for flipping the bird to the drivers who deserve it on the road.

The whole Hinkley fine was ridiculous, I enjoyed the banter between the two. I thought the AFL was in the entertainment business. Sure there is a line (genuine racist abuse, hate, bigotry, death threats, violence) but a bit of verbal biff adds colour to the game imo.

 

[HairyO]

Ginnivan and Watson (with someone else I didn't recognise, may have been a teammate) were eating al fresco at Hecho en Mexico on Swan Street on Sunday night after they'd returned from Adelaide.

Holy ****balls. I hope the AFL deregisters them !!

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Players aren't allowed to dine out in public?

Way to miss the point.

Of course there's nothing wrong with it, which I literally said in my post.

It's merely saying that Ginnivan's a bit different. I'd say 95% of AFL players probably would have gone the Ubereats or home cooking option after the weekend he'd had, after being harassed by some clown reporter at the airport. Instead, he went the option of roadside dining on the busiest street in Richmond. He likes the attention. And so the cycle will continue if these incidents with the crowd become a regular occurrence.

 

[voorhees]

Way to miss the point.

Of course there's nothing wrong with it, which I literally said in my post.

It's merely saying that Ginnivan's a bit different. I'd say 95% of AFL players probably would have gone the Ubereats or home cooking option after the weekend he'd had, after being harassed by some clown reporter at the airport. Instead, he went the option of roadside dining on the busiest street in Richmond. He likes the attention. And so the cycle will continue if these incidents with the crowd become a regular occurrence.

man lives for the attention.
he welcomes it and doesn't shy away from it.
it's not good or bad it's just who he is.

 

[PerthBoy86]

Way to miss the point.

Of course there's nothing wrong with it, which I literally said in my post.

It's merely saying that Ginnivan's a bit different. I'd say 95% of AFL players probably would have gone the Ubereats or home cooking option after the weekend he'd had, after being harassed by some clown reporter at the airport. Instead, he went the option of roadside dining on the busiest street in Richmond. He likes the attention. And so the cycle will continue if these incidents with the crowd become a regular occurrence.

You said it wasn't a crime but suggested he shouldn't be doing it. Going to a restaurant with your mates (and your team mates included) is a normal thing normal people do.

Yes he's famous (and infamous), but should that stop him from living his life? Whether that's inside or outside the restaurant. It doesn't mean he's seeking attention. I'm glad he's not hiding away. He wasn't yelling and causing a scene as far as I know.

Maybe he does like attention, I don't know if that's why he did it, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he wanted a normal meal and to get on with his life.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

You said it wasn't a crime but suggested he shouldn't be doing it. Going to a restaurant with your mates (and your team mates included) is a normal thing normal people do.

Yes he's famous (and infamous), but should that stop him from living his life? Whether that's inside or outside the restaurant. It doesn't mean he's seeking attention. I'm glad he's not hiding away. He wasn't yelling and causing a scene as far as I know.

Maybe he does like attention, I don't know if that's why he did it, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he wanted a normal meal and to get on with his life.

Show me where I've said he shouldn't be doing it.

He could have eaten at the same restaurant inside - as I happened to be at the time - and maybe five people would have recognised him. He chose to sit at a table on the side of the road where I reckon 150-200 people would have walked past him in the space of an hour. Not a right or a wrong decision, just an interesting one, in my opinion.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Don't know what the crowd said, no doubt a few choices words. Let them have a bit of banter etc. With the way the word is going we'll be copping fines for flipping the bird to the drivers who deserve it on the road.

The whole Hinkley fine was ridiculous, I enjoyed the banter between the two. I thought the AFL was in the entertainment business. Sure there is a line (genuine racist abuse, hate, bigotry, death threats, violence) but a bit of verbal biff adds colour to the game imo.

Its only entertaining when its from a Vic player, when directed at one its 'unedifying for a senior coach'.
Just ask whateley

 

[flyinghi64]

You said it wasn't a crime but suggested he shouldn't be doing it. Going to a restaurant with your mates (and your team mates included) is a normal thing normal people do.

Yes he's famous (and infamous), but should that stop him from living his life? Whether that's inside or outside the restaurant. It doesn't mean he's seeking attention. I'm glad he's not hiding away. He wasn't yelling and causing a scene as far as I know.

Maybe he does like attention, I don't know if that's why he did it, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he wanted a normal meal and to get on with his life.

I think what was being implied is that they weren't exactly dining low key.
How they carry on during the game could be also how they do things out in public.
Most players would like to keep it low key in public, I would presume, but some love the attention.
It's who they are,young men enjoying themselves, nothing more nothing less.