Autopsy Round 23 = Adelaide 59-56 Collingwood

[DinoSoar]

If your intent is to come in here and troll, think again as it won’t end well for you.

Anzacday Maggie5 Gone Critical

 

[upnsmoke]

If we finish 5th and win week 1, we’d play the loser of 1st v 4th, so probably Gold Coast up there.

Somehow I was pencilling Geelong sliding down.... but if thats the case, then finals newbies in Gold Coast are ideal matchup..... that team is a couple of old head veterans away from a great team though, similar to Hawks bringing in veterans.

 

[gtrain23]

Imagine 70 inside 50s with out many marks - if only we had a lightning fast small forward that takes a lot of opportunities

 

[SchuPie]

• if we play any football at all in the first half v Suns we make top 4
• if we “play the minutes” / show some fight in the 4th v Freo we make top 4

Now we need to rely on other results
Furious

• bring Cox in
• make sub when there’s opportunity to impact or don’t f-ing bother
• I’m a fan of Steele…should he be on the wing?
• F50…work it f-ing out

Edit: and just play Bobby ffs
Im happy if he needs to sit beside the goal post for half the quarter - 50% Bobby is better than no Bobby

 

[eddiesmith]

Only problem is they play Poort then Essendone. They'll belt the shit out of them.

Maybe, the way they’ve played recently they can’t put 2 games in a row together.

But it may not matter if Hawks beat Brisbane.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

I'm outraged, microwaving my membership & sending a truckload of manure to myself for my vegie patch!!!!

There, I've said it!!!

 

[IlovethePies]

After QT, our F50 was horribly crowded all night. There was no space to lead or mark. We needed to find a way to open it up but couldn’t. Hill would have helped.

At least we’ve rediscovered some intensity, pressure and more daring ball movement. There’s at least a little hope now that we can get through first week of Finals.

This is my worry. Teams flood our forward line and we look like a grizzly bear thrashing around in the water, but not making any progress.

Everyone does it against us (Freo, GC, now Adelaide).

Why don't we have a strategy to answer it? Surely, with the opposition flooding our forward line, we can take advantage due to the predictablility of such tactics?

Yet we never see a different response.

 

[LuckyLee]

Billy Frampton

17

Billy Frampton

Age

29

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

99.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

107.0

2star

was outstanding tonight. Back to his best.

 

[Monco Matt]

except brisbane last year nonetheless

Oh, yes of coarse! Let's refer back to a miracle finals campaign and rest all our hopes on that shit happening again. Brilliant!

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Somehow I was pencilling Geelong sliding down.... but if thats the case, then finals newbies in Gold Coast are ideal matchup..... that team is a couple of old head veterans away from a great team though, similar to Hawks bringing in veterans.

Cats, even if they get rolled by the Swans play the Tigers next week.

They will win that by plenty and either finish 2nd or 3rd depending on Brisbane.

 

[Apples]

Haven't beaten a top 8 team since May. Pathetic.

That performance was definitely top 8. Failed by 3 points against top of the ladder team. Perspective please.

 

[eddiesmith]

Somehow I was pencilling Geelong sliding down.... but if thats the case, then finals newbies in Gold Coast are ideal matchup..... that team is a couple of old head veterans away from a great team though, similar to Hawks bringing in veterans.

Yeah, Gold Coast can’t overtake Geelong, unless Geelong completely shit the bed v Sydney and Richmond!

Only problem is our record up there recently ain’t good!!!

 

[upnsmoke]

He is dumb as all **** tactically. Just keep blazing away to the out number. 71 inside 50s let’s not change it up. FMD

You must be joking.

McRae's system is absolutely effective. Again, Pies dont have too many Superstars any more and yet they are successful because of the system. Plug and play role players who can play structure and it works. No need for All-Australian Key forwards or mid-field superstars, yet effective.

 

[Mortimore 39ers]

We will finish this round in the top 4 with Melbourne coming up next week who, let's face it, their cue's well and truly in the rack.
Gold Coast are a threat (percentage wise) but I think we will just scrape in for fourth on the ladder at the end of next round.
I actually would prefer us to play Adelaide away in the 1st Qualifying match than play Geelong at home in the 2nd.
Winner of the 1st Qualifying puts themselves in the best position for the Prelim and I rate our chances of beating Adelaide next time around.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Just one question.

Since when is a throw a handball?

Time and again Adelaide got away with that tonight.

The only reason you or I know about it is because Dunstall was barracking hard for us all night (Seriously WTF?) and pointed it out.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Should of selected him, if he ended being a late out, then we stamp his papers to be traded.
He should have played tonight.

Wouldn't be surprised if papers are already stamped. Can't see how he plays again.

 

[regpies]

Are our forwards not working for each other any more? Why can’t we isolate anyone like we could earlier in the season.

Can’t isolate when 30 players are in our forward line.

We aren’t getting turnover and quick ball movement. Ball movement is slow and no forward is clunking a contested mark.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Incredibly disappointing result. Game was there for the taking, but our lack of connection going inside forward 50 killed us.

Pressure numbers were good, we won the territory battle and the intensity resembled more of what we produced earlier in the year so there are some silver linings to hold onto.

The forward line structure is a mess and has been for the past six weeks. It's a far cry from early in the season when we were brutally efficient especially off turnover.

The Fremantle loss at the MCG is the game that we'll be rueing rather than some of the other defeats we've had. We won all key metrics and fell 1 point short. The top 4 situation is precarious now. All we can control is by beating Melbourne (ideally by a large margin) and hoping the cards fall in our favour.

Some absolute howlers from the umps tonight. Missed the Keays throw which led to Adelaide's only goal in Q3 and Thilthorpe kicking the ball away with a minute to go should have been a 50m penalty.

 

[SchuPie]

Parker was great and has always shown ‘something’ when he has played.

We need more youth in the side, players like Markov simply shouldn’t have been taking his spot earlier in the year.

We had good balance all year then about 5 weeks ago we decided to drop some of these young players
This will go down in the books as the most perplexing month+ since post gf win
- get all of Parker, Allan, Steele in

 

[IlovethePies]

Billy Frampton was outstanding tonight. Back to his best.

Yes, he was truly brilliant.
Our defence is back to its best.
This is what still gives us a chance.
Midfield pressure was also great tonight.
But the forward line, and the lack of plan against flooding, is a massive issue.

Anyone floods against us when they get the lead, and we can't score.

It is so obvious.

Why TF can't we find an answer?

 

[regpies]

Crows didn’t win that, we lost it, like the Freo game.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Thst performance was definitely top 8. Failed by 3 points against top of the ladder team. Perspective please.

Perspective? We haven't beaten a top 8 team since May. Our last 4 games decided by a goal or less - all losses.

 

[Seedsfan]

You must be joking.

McRae's system is absolutely effective. Again, Pies dont have too many Superstars any more and yet they are successful because of the system. Plug and play role players who can play structure and it works. No need for All-Australian Key forwards or mid-field superstars, yet effective.

Yep that’s why we have lost 5 out of 6 resting players against the Suns, Dockers and Lions

 

[BEEG]

Remember when people said we might not need Rowell because we have Ned Long?

Terrible footballer.

 

[swoop42]

The only reason you or I know about it is because Dunstall was barracking hard for us all night (Seriously WTF?) and pointed it out.

What you talking about.

It was obvious to me.

 

[DWil6]

The Fremantle loss was a complete disaster, the game was sitting there for us.

Ironically the Freo draw last year also cost us a finals spot.

This game reminded me of the freo loss. All the inside 50’s and game dominance, couldn’t score.