Gethelred
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- May 1, 2016
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I think you misunderstand what I meant.Weitering is an intercept defender, that role is all about decision making, when to play off and when to attach.
Weitering is struggling a bit with the change of game plan, we are going into the middle more and oppositon sides are as well.
When to drop off and when to re-attach. Keeping the ball boundary which has been a focus of us, he hardly has to attach, now things have changed, he's getting it wrong a bit.
You do not want to be 15-20m off you man when the opposition have the ball in hand and are running towards goal. You do not want to be doing then when the ball is in the middle of the ground. Has been caught out a lot getting this wrong this year and he did in this game.
I am talking about Weitering not needing to attach. I am talking about Weitering being alone and free to put himself where he knows he can impact the play best.
If you remember, it took Moore around 10 weeks to properly adjust his game to make it work under Fly. He was racking up the disposals, but the role wasn't about raw disposal numbers; it was about stilling opposition entries. Slowing down slow plays to a crawl, being the final obstacle between them and a goal. Enter the Collingwood defensive 50 in the air, and he is who you have to beat.
I'd also like to note that Harris Andrews is not dissimilar here; just, he plays an opponent as well.
If you have a plus one behind the ball, why? There's no-one to attach to; we have the numbers covered.Play as lose as you like when we have them out wide, but he has to re-attach when it goes central or they get it on the run.
Hang on.Rance played in the era of congestion and boundary play. Moore has played in the best pressure and defensive team in the game and knows when to reconnect, Stewart much the same deal as Moore.
Both players have and do play as the plus one whenever possible. Treating them as 'always reconnecting' is simply not what is happening on the footy field.
Rance was famous for his lack of accountability, and frankly so is Moore.
How is this an impediment?You only play that lose role when your team's defence allows you to.
I'm suggesting that this is something we could do. I do not understand why you seem to be of the impression that we wouldn't - if we chose to trial this - shape our defense around doing it properly.
Hmmm...Reading this is currently an issue for Weitering.
I don't know that this is true so much as he's being deliberately led away from the ball, and he's torn between going with the player leading him off and staying accountable or being in the right position to impact the play. This isn't so much a reading thing as it's a strategy to remove him from our defense, knowing it's him or bust.
You mentioned people forgetting how good Harry and Charlie could be in an earlier post. People have absolutely forgotten how good Weitering is.
I mean, exactly. Do that. Put him in the position of double teaming a forward at all times, whenever we can wrangle it. Force them to play short elsewhere on the field to even numbers behind the ball.Yes play lose, but know when to reconnect and react fast. Those moments for him are when the ball is in the middle and when it looks as if the ball carrier kicking inside 50 may be on the run AND you don't have a congested back 50 to help with. Only play lose when the ball is in the middle when you are double teaming a forward (one each side). We/he are getting it wrong a little.
This is precisely what I'm suggesting. Simplify the choice for him: either I am by myself and placing myself between the play and the goals intercepting everything, or they have to sacrifice a wing or a flanker to make me accountable.




